Posted by musky on July 18, 2006, at 22:40:49
In reply to Re: Not good. » jules354, posted by johnnyj on July 18, 2006, at 16:49:35
>Hey Johnny:
so sorry man you are doin rough again.. you were doing so well and I really thought that you were turning a corner.. Please try NOT to take any more meds!!! then you are stepping backwards.. go ahead and get the tests done for testosterone, etc. but if you take sleep meds, they screw up the alpha waves in the brain.. sure maybe you will get your sleep but it isnt YOU sleeping its the MEDSSSSS!!! and i thought you didnt like the side effects of them.. Sorry I dont mean to be so adimant about this.. and the doc saying that w/d should be over is full of it... sorry I know better. you have to remember how long were you on the remeron... and the downstream effects of remeron on the rest of the bodys functions.. remember it knocks out the adrenals for awhile too. one of the functions of the adrenal glands is body temp... that could explain the sweating,etc...
I just suffered through the not sleeping.. yesI too am like you and definitlely need a good sleep, but I just keep fighiting..
did you try acupuncture?? cause this has helped with my insomnia.. Yes I still get some ups and downs but not NEARLY as bad as before..
My moods have been up and down and mostlty the anxiety panic overwhelming crap, but it passes and then i am full of hope again.. I just keep going... I have made up my mind I will not go back on remeron..it made me worse and that is not the problemmm . I know I just have to keep working on my mind set and I know that it takes a VERY LONG TIME for the body to readjust after meds... I know too many people that have come off meds and they took MONTHS even up to 2yrs to feel Right in the head... I am prepared for this.. give yourself a chance yet johnny... its only been 2months for us... I too am doubting sometimes but you have to be STRONG and STUBBORN..
like today for examole i was totally out of it in my mind I really thought i was losing it and was sooo disconnected.. finally , finally it passed and I am better tonight.. I just KEPT going and changing my mind, deep breathing, etc.... self care, big time..
dont worry about sex drive up and down.. again its the w/d and body adjusting.. watch out for the pdocs they just know how to RX ,, thats alll /.uyou think they really care.??? if they did they would get at the whole person and not just push another pill to numb uou out..
Please try NOT to stress about NOt sleeping... I fully understand, ive been there rememberr??? if stress about the sleep you will be worse... just let it come it will.. you had good days before, so there is your proof that you are healing right?dont go back ...yoiuve come this far being off remeron... keep going...
and if you cant sleep just lay there then.. I would suggest a relaxing tape or music.. I dont totally agree with getting up cause then thats sending your body signals to "wake up".. i would prefer to just lay there .. all night if need be and just chill... try to have a no care attitude you know,, read or whatever then sorta maybe doze. just close your eyes and rest , even if you dont fall sound asleep its ok... it will come... trust in this... take it easy,,, do the hot bath like cashy suggests and hot tea, (herbal ) or hot milk(thats a sedative)... try a bit longer before steeping back into meds...sorry to ramble.. Im kinda wierd myself but Im fighin this like hell... I am determined to stay OFF meds forever!!! especially a/d and anxiety meds... they really did a number on me... I want to be free to enjoy life and have my own mind and body back with no side effects hangin around..
take care
Musky
Thank you Jules, that is so nice of you. How are you doing?
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> I went to my family doctor today and he gave me lunesta. My pdoc thought lunesta was a type of benzo which it is not. He had some good ideas and said before we go the AD route let's try something, not everyday at first, to see if we can find a base for you. He wants me to get some ground beneath me so we can go from there. I will try to sleep on my own but if I wallow for an hour I will take lunesta.
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> One thing he did say is that he thought my W/D would be over after almost 8 weeks. He did admit that clinical/real cases tell the real picture. I told him that I feel like I have missed so much the last 5 years that I am still trying to make sense of things by feeling again. I told him the sleep stuff was taking it's toll. He does want to run some tests and I agree(cortisol and tetosterone). I asked him why the over sex drive one day and then almost adverse to it the next? That is why the tests. I am not manic so what is the deal? At least never been diagnosed bipolar. Because the lack of sleep doesn't make me get anything done that is for sure.
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> One day ready to just live and the next ready to run away and hide. Ups and downs are the pits.
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> take care
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> johnny
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