Posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 16:19:21
In reply to Lou's response-anthrvoyce-clarifiction-lelah, posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 15:44:08
> > > In practical and emotional terms, I would have to say no. Bob's repeated appearances and disappearances give an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty. It shows me how important a reliable "father- figure" is to this site (or any site). We don't need a lot of interaction, just a moderate to minimal amount of support, understanding and fair treatment that we can count on. That would have reinforced everyone's innate desire for improved health and a greater degree of trust in society. I think we do have to recognize that he has had some very harsh, unfair things said to him here in anger, but I still do think that it is reasonable to expect a leader to work things through and offer minimal but reliable leadership. Otherwise, the site itself becomes an additional source of stress in people's lives. I believe this is what has happened here, sadly.
> >
> > Tl,
> > You wrote,[...an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty...fair treatment we can count on...desire for improved health...the site becomes an additional source of stress...sadly...].
> > When a site such as this is seen by a subset of readers such as yourself that you describe as potentially threatens the well-being and safety of people, that could mean that the site could be crossing the line into the world of {bullying} which poses a challenge to those that could be victims of the bullying.
> > Bullying is aggressive antagonistic behavior where there is an imbalance of power so that the victim of bullying is seen as weaker and vulnerable to the bully. Bullying can be emotional where emotional distress is inflicted upon the victims of the bully by discrimination and racism and other forms of stigmatization or defamation by the bully. The access to the internet can lead to this type of bullying where impressionable readers are persuaded that bullying is supportive by an authority figure. This can lead to anti-Semitic attacks against Jews if anti-Semitism could be seen as supportive, anti transgender attacks where anti transgender statements could be seen as supportive where there was just a recent suicide here by a transgender teenager that received these type of bullying messages and stepped into a moving semi on the expressway. You may read the suicide note online.
> > The courts look generally to see if the bully is intending to humiliate the victims of the bully. This, generally, is plainly visible, but sometimes not. For the bully can always set up a pretext to justify the bullying, regardless if innocent victims are led to their deaths by the bullying, either by their own suicide, or others attacking the bully's victims.
> > I intend to reveal more concerning this unless the 3 consecutive post rule applies so that you can make your own determination as to if Twinleaf's statements here have credibility or not.
> > Lou
> >
> Friends,
> The recent suicide where I live of a transgender teenager resulted from messages received concerning the teenager being transgender. The messages came from outside the internet, but the messages created the suicide. It is the message, not the medium that counts. And these type of messages can come from the internet easily now. And they can induce suicide just as much if the messages came from a parent or a religious authority that holds others as inferior.
> I am here to have repudiations posted to any statement here that can be considered to be supportive that defames anyone, be it by defaming their religion or anything else. This is one way that I can save lives, by stopping what could cause a reader here to kill themselves. Another way that I can save lives is in what Twinleaf posted here. You see, she sees that a source of stress, sadly, could come from here. That source of stress can IMHO induce suicidal thoughts in some readers here and being on mind-altering drugs could have those people exponentially feeling suicidal thoughts if they could think that they are being portrayed as inferior human beings here. This inferiority could be induced in many ways. One way can be seen in the discussion that I am having with Mr. Hsiung on the admin board as posts that directly portray some as inferior and then also indirectly. Twinleaf brings up some of the indirect ways that I am responding to here.
> Lou
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> Friends,
Tl has brought her insight to you here. A source of stress can be IMHO a source of death. And as long as hatred toward the Jews can be seen as supportive here and that it will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking to be seen that way, then
what Tl posts here can help all to save lives here.
You see, posts here that could be considered to be supportive and could depict others as inferior, could induce suicidal thoughts in the ones depicted as inferior. Posts can be considered to be supportive and will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking if statements depicting another or even groups of people, are depicted as inferior and standing. This could be further exacerbating if the reader sees that Mr. Hsiung is denying my request to post a repudiation to the anti-Semitic propaganda
Now let us consider a hypothetical case where a Jewish teenager is reading here and sees this as being supportive and will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, since the post stands and a subset of readers could think that unsanctioned posts are civil here.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/428781.html
Now I ask if you could think that if a Jewish teenager read that here and was in depression, could the fact that the statements could be read as supportive be what could cause the reader to kill themselves as feeling inferior as to how the Jews are portrayed in the post.
Lou
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