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Posted by Deneb on June 3, 2005, at 15:29:10
I just want people to know that I am willing to take on suicidal posters. I think I can handle it...there isn't anything self destructive anyone can write that I've never thought of myself. If anyone feels like they cannot post their thoughts because it is too inappropriate, you can babblemail me. I can take it. I know there are risks to me, but I truly want to help anyway that I can. Feel free to vent your feelings to me...you won't get a PBC from me. :-)
Deneb (used to be Shy_Girl)
Posted by Deneb on June 3, 2005, at 15:29:11
In reply to I want to help anyone who is in crisis here :-), posted by Deneb on June 2, 2005, at 22:34:26
I will do whatever it takes. I want to help people. I want to do good things and be an asset to the community. Please feel free to use me as a "punching bag" (babblemail me of course) if you need to. I will handle it. :-)
Posted by Deneb on June 3, 2005, at 15:29:11
In reply to Re: I need convince Dr. Bob that I'm a good person, posted by Deneb on June 2, 2005, at 23:06:50
Posted by PM80 on June 3, 2005, at 16:03:22
In reply to Re: I need convince Dr. Bob that I'm a good person, posted by Deneb on June 2, 2005, at 23:06:50
You do not need to be a punching bag in order to help others. You do not need to sacrifice yourself for others. It would not be healthy for you and you are just as important as anyone else here. Just give what you can, when you can, and take what is offered when you need it. I think that is all anyone here aspires to. It is a good personal growth thing, though, that you really want to help people. I'm happy for you in this because it will give you real satisfaction in the long-term.
I've always thought for myself that, as an ideal, if I could make someone's life better or worse that I would always want to choose the better, even if that person does not reciprocate. I'm trying to learn how to do that in healthy, non-self-sacrificial way. Hurting and sacrificing myself does not ultimately help others. It's actually a kinda hard lesson in a way.
Posted by Deneb on June 3, 2005, at 18:49:16
In reply to You only need to convince yourself!, posted by PM80 on June 3, 2005, at 16:03:22
...my post got re-directed!...But that's ok ;-)
My offer seems less official on the social board. Maybe Dr. Bob doesn't want it to be my job and responsibility to help suicidal posters...even though I would gladly do it.Anyways, my offer still stands...I guess the only difference now is that people are able to comment on my offer.
...it's not about sacrifice...it's about redemption and helping others :-)
Posted by alexandra_k on June 4, 2005, at 2:31:31
In reply to Re: Aw shucks :-) ..., posted by Deneb on June 3, 2005, at 18:49:16
I think the trouble comes because...
You struggle with your own suicidal thoughts.
You don't seem to know how to keep them at bay
How to manage them very well without them starting to get the better of you
And so it is a little hard for me to see how you can help other people with their thoughts...Venting is one thing.
But venting tends to have one staying in the same place
Going round the same old circles.One day...
The thoughts will get better for you.
They will go away a little bit.
Thats probably where you will find that you are one of the people who is most AT RISK in reading other peoples thoughts on suicide.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on June 4, 2005, at 3:53:01
In reply to Re: Aw shucks :-) ..., posted by Deneb on June 3, 2005, at 18:49:16
> ...my post got re-directed!...But that's ok ;-)
> My offer seems less official on the social board. Maybe Dr. Bob doesn't want it to be my job and responsibility to help suicidal posters...even though I would gladly do it.
> ...it's not about sacrifice...it's about redemption and helping others :-)You already have a lot to offer here. You are very intelligent, have great insight, and that post on Astronomy was awesome!
If I was suicidal, I would want to talk with someone who'd been there, definitely, and I've also talked with suicidal people when I've been suicidal, and it worked very well, it was mutual support. However, you have mentioned in the past that you have times when you are happy thinking about suicide, and that you sometimes think it's romantic, another time you mentioned that you had made a suicide pact with someone. These comments make me feel you are most definitely not ready yet to support someone in a suicidal crisis. I'm more than a little concerned
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