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Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:50:08
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'!, posted by nfc on December 22, 2007, at 20:36:08
Hey, twinleaf my new p-doc is Menniger's trained and was at there a while, was yours. Realme thought so. Anyway, glad your like yours so much. I hope mine is half as good as yours. he did make me laugh.......that is good in my book.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:50:50
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'!, posted by nfc on December 22, 2007, at 20:36:08
thanks nfc, looking forward to the babblemail. rsk
Posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 20:53:31
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:27:56
Thanks for all your wonderful good wishes, rsk! I just know that you and your new T will find the way for you to be feeling much better before long, and although I think your children are much too young right now (? barely teenagers?), I'm sure there are grandchildren in your future, too! No need to hurry with that, but it does seem like a lovely new experience-all you have to do is love and enjoy them, and your own children have to do all the harder things, as we did with them
I hope you will keep on telling us a lot more about what happens with your new therapist. I will, too, if there is anything which seems interesting enough to post about. A lot of what happens now means the world to me, but may not seem very new or exciting.
Posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 20:59:25
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:50:08
I think our messages were crossing, but, yes, mine did also train at Menningers', and I am so impressed with what he does. They must get very good training there! And mine is older, too- well, somewhat older- 63, so perhaps they were even there at the same time.
Posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 21:18:41
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:27:56
But I doubt they way up here in the great white north!
I'll just have to take my chances with whats up here.
I was looking at ads and stuff, and it don't tell ya squat bout them really.
I dunno how a person is to choose.
Maybe I should put a notice up at my kids school.
"Any parents know a good P-doc ? Mrs. Muffled is in need of one. Call her at ***-****. Thanks." LOL! Many parents proly would say thank goodness! that woman needs help!!! ROFL!!!
But seriously, how does a person find out? I don't think my T knows anyone. I didn't ask directly, but have said in email that I looking for a p-doc. My GP would proly just look at a list of available practitioners and pick one. So not much hope there.
Sucks, cuz only p-docs I seen(two only) is thru "the system", and they not been much good. Well there's one that might have been OK, but my peeps fooled him. One of them is SO good at hiding stuff.
UGH.
I am SO glad you seem to have hit a good one Rsk!and twinleaf too.
M
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Posted by Daisym on December 22, 2007, at 23:00:49
In reply to P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry, posted by rskontos on December 21, 2007, at 20:18:11
I hear how much hope you have - I'm so glad for you. It is very important that you work with someone you can trust. What a nice way to go into the Holidays and start the New Year.
Best,
Daisy
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 23:45:19
In reply to Wahhh!! I want me a Mennigers P-doc!!!, posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 21:18:41
I babbled you a response and just wanted to say that I am in Indiana so there is hope. That is somewhat north I'd say. You will find one take heart. We will help. Somehow.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 0:06:25
In reply to Re: P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry, posted by Daisym on December 22, 2007, at 23:00:49
Thanks Daisy, yes and I am hoping for the best for me and all Babblers this new year.
I have had a rough Nov and Dec and this lucky break with the p-doc is great. I will see if he does my therapy or if like nfc he might suggest a new therapist for me to see in between sessions with him which wouldnt be bad either. In case, the session with him made me see that my current pastoral therapist is not working and my intuition on that was right.
I hope all is going well with you. Have a Merry Christmas an d a Good New Year. thanks for the response.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 0:09:18
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- twinleaf » rskontos, posted by twinleaf on December 22, 2007, at 20:59:25
I agree. I would say my new doc is around that age. I keep remembering things he said and am amazed. rsk
Posted by seldomseen on December 23, 2007, at 7:09:02
In reply to Re: P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 14:13:49
I want just want to reiterate what everyone else said - having a good doc is better than gold for your recovery and I'm very happy for you.
Something you said really resonated with me
"He validated for me that the trauma I went through was extreme (his word). And I need to be reminded of that cause I thought it just was. And he was amazed I never told anyone. But as you know we must hide stuff at all costs."
I know the trauma we endured was bad, but sometimes I think keeping it a secret is worse.
Happy holidays
Seldom.
Posted by I need a hug on December 23, 2007, at 8:55:20
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- twinleaf » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 0:09:18
RSK,
I just wanted to wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! I have so much I want to say to you but I'll end up writing a book. Hey...if I'm crazy enough to fly somewhere to see my Pdoc, maybe I'll fly to Indiana to see you. LOL Actually, depending on where you are I might very well be within driving distance. Boy, do I need a vacation!! It's a good thing I see my T on Friday. I hope your next appt. is as good, if not better, than your first. I can't really explain it but I just have this good feeling that everything is going to start falling into place for you. I think it's because your first meeting was so productive and that's a good indicator of what is to come. You seem less anxious. You said the voices and the switching have eased up a bit. Maybe now you are finally ready to look into the darkness of your past so that you can begin to see what a bright, bright future you still have ahead of you. This is my Christmas wish for you, my friend. I hope you have a future so bright you have to wear sunglasses at night! Do you remember that song? I hated it. Was it you that liked to play, "Name That Tune?" If it was, I used to love that show. Oh God, I haven't been able to sleep and I can't think straight and I'm starting to act really goofy. Maybe if my meds ever kick in I can just sleep through Christmas this year. I'm keeping it low-keyed this year anyway. I'm spending the day with my sister and her husband. BTW, he's from Anderson IN. Please let me know how your next session goes. I've done it again. I've wtitten another f@#&ing book!!! HUGS
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 9:43:17
In reply to Re: P-doc Update--good one!!!!!Long sorry » rskontos, posted by seldomseen on December 23, 2007, at 7:09:02
Seldon, so true. Keeping the secret is extremely costly. He also pointed out how many I had trying to care for me but because I was trying to keep everything hidden and to "Protect my image of mother for myself" I couldn't let anyone get close I pushed them, those trying to care for me away and I still do. He pointed this out.
This amazed me. He also pointed out that my mother's death should have been a relief for me given the trauma yet it wasnt. It was more trauma. I went into hiding when she did. He said that was usual given that it should have freed me. But it didnt. He thought that was amazing. I never thought of it this way. How could I. And I was still hiding everything. Yes seldom it is worse. I didnt understand how bad or how to let go.Thanks for being happy. I am amazed that he was so close and I never knew it.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 9:53:01
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present, posted by I need a hug on December 23, 2007, at 8:55:20
Hugs dont apologize I love to read books. I am an avid reader. I am awed you care so much.........aw shucks I will get a big head from all this. I am going to print all this out and put in my journal. some good stuff here for when I get down.
I am less anxious and unless this is an alter, (some days I am not sure who is the real me but maybe he can help with that), I did come home and find I had bought something on Thurs. from ebay that adult me would not buy. And what do you say to an ebayer oh I didn't buy that a part of me, the teen part did. No luckily it was too expensive.
I don't remember the song but if it was doing my teen years well they are blur in dissociation and I am able to access those memories yet. Maybe in the future I will.
We are just having a small family low key holiday this year, my favorite. Cuz if anyone comes over I am the slave. My daughter is helping me cook since she wants a home cooked dinner and I was going to buy it from Honeybaked Hams.
Anderson is not far from me about 45 minutes I think. Maybe less. I will let you know. I liked Name that Tune but I sucked at it.
I think things will get better. I am hopeful because new doc was. And I want to be. I am trying to sort things out and trying to make sense of it all. Thanks for the well wishes.
You have a great Christmas too.
If you do decide to fly............Take care my friend. Like it says in It is A Wonderful LIfe,
He who has Friends Has Riches. Something Like that.
I feel very rich today.......rsk
Posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 10:39:36
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » twinleaf, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 18:15:18
Rskontos, this is wonderful wonderful news - finally you have someone who is dedicated and who understands - and even more he wants to help you, feels honoured to do so. That's beautiful and brings me a big warm smile. This is exactly what you needed and deserve. I'm so happy for you. I really hope this makes a big difference to your life, to your future.
He's taken you on, not because he has to, not even because he was looking for new patients - you're special, you connect, you're unique and you can work together. He sounds like someone who loves his job and cares deeply about his patients/clients. How kind of RealMe to find this wonderful therapist for you. I don't think
I think it's a good gesture to charge by the month (my therapist does the same and it does show trust). He saw you for an extended amount of time - showing flexibility and putting his clients first - I'm glad you get to see him again soon, usually therapists take a break over Christmas. There are some really good therapists out there and it looks like you've just found a very special one.
I felt really lucky to find my therapist - I'd had a bad experience with the first person I'd seen and it wouldn't have got anywhere with her (would have just caused harm, which it did) - so I did my own search, didn't have any experience or any advice and just got lucky - basically went through the psychoanalytic psychotherapy listing and selected someone who didn't live too too far away, phoned very nervous and he saw me two days later.
Anyway, congratulations and happy Christmas!
Witti
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 11:31:24
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » rskontos, posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 10:39:36
Thanks Witti, I am glad too and as I reflect on the session I find so much to think about and take in. It is remarkable that he got so many insights about my behavior and how I felt and how I react that my other therapist never did. He also said I would get well with the right kind of work. But his biggest concern was that the one I was seeing was unfortunately not going to be able to do that for me and I agree. There is a mechanism inside that starts going off that I hear from when I know deep down something wont work. And the other therapist kept saying and doing things that set off so much unstability in me. I mean I wasnt exactly balanced when I went to her but I wasnt switching all the time either. I switch when feeling threatened or anxious and I was getting to feel both all the time. A Friends T therapist said it should happen in the context of therapy not spill out all the time in life. And I was spilling out in life not therapy. so my hope is I will do this in therapy and not so much in life. Hopefully he can get them out and deal with them and life can be left alone for the most part. That is what I think is suppose to happen.
He also made me realize so many things in my life after my marriage was also trauma that induce the dissocation too and that must be dealt with too. But I still have hope.
I am a mess but a mess he thinks that can be fixed and that is a wonderful present for Christmas because I was at the point I thought I couldn't be. Now I might even be able to decide what I can do with the rest of my life. You know what to do now that I can finally grow up.
Thank Witti. It is a journey but like you told me earlier in another thread one that is worth going on.
rsk
Ps....Have a Merry Christmas yourself... How are you doing? I hope you are doing well......Thanks so much for your reply.
Posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 12:58:40
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » Wittgenstein, posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 11:31:24
I just realised there was an 'I don't think' that shouldn't have been in my last post - bad editing on my part.
It's kind of scary to think of the situation it now appears you were in before you met your new T. What magic it must feel for him to tell you that he can help you - 'fix' you. The word 'fixed' sits a bit uncomfortable with me - not really sure what a 'fixed' me would feel like - but I know what you mean, to be better, for life to be much easier - to move on.
I hope that your 'peeps' become more contained outside the sessions and their energy can be focused into the therapeutic space. As for the later traumas - does this come as a surprise? How does it feel for this to be recognised for the first time?
I'm doing ok thanks, taking my dog for walks in the woods, enjoying the snow/ice. In honesty I'm a bit down - trying to hold it together though and will be fine - missing T and finding Christmas/New Year triggering.
Good luck on the 26th and best wishes for a lovely Christmas.
Witti
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 14:18:44
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'!, posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 12:58:40
He didn't use fix that is my word, I have to think about his word, I am not sure, healed, whole, I don't remember now. This is my disjointed memory thing. I like fixed for now. I feel broke. So fix it is. I remember the thread earlier on this and I have settled on fixed. But I could say filled because for now I feel empty, I called my self an empty vessel so to think of myself as filled is comforting. I have purposedly emptied myself so no one can hurt me. So to feel ok with allowing myself to fill back up with feelings would be nice.
Thanks Witti, your response means alot.... and yes for me to be in control would be nice. The later traumas does feel like a surprise because I guess I just accept everything that comes my way. Amazed to be recognised. And to have it point out to me is huge. To be validated is huge. To everyone in my head. I didn't know any of this. And to know I should have felt relief when my mom died and I didn't. That is something to think about too. It all is a wow. Remarkable all for a 2.5 session. And for someone to talk that long to me.......another wow......
I am glad you are doing well. I am sorry you are a bit down. We are having pretty snow flurries now. All of our snow melted since it got up to 50 yesterday. Bummer. But today the snow flurries are pretty. I still dont like to leave me house and my daughter asked me to go somewhere with her. I guess I will force myself. Unless I can get my H to go.Yes the holidays are triggers. I am only glad none of our families will be here. I wouldn't mind friends. But they like their familes unlike me. LOL
Hang in my friend. Thanks for the luck on the 26th and you have a lovely Christmas too.
What type of dogs. I just watched the Dog Whisperer. I like to watch it. I have two Rat Terriers. They are small but fierce.
Take care, rsk
Posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 16:35:59
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » Wittgenstein, posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 14:18:44
I agree - validation has been such a big thing for me too - to be believed and understood - and to begin to realise the reality of things oneself.
2.5 hours is a long session - will all your sessions be this long?
Just been out for a walk with my dog (she's a cross - an Australian labradoodle) and the snow/ice has mostly melted - the weather is getting milder here too. Having a dog is having a really positive effect on me actually. She's just 10 weeks so a lot of work but so sweet.
I hope it works out ok with the appointment with your daughter. I'm relieved to be spending my xmas away from family.
Rat terriers - cute :)
Witti
Posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 17:33:30
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'!, posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 16:35:59
No I don't think all of them will be that long. And my husband went with my daughter while I made pasts and homemade rolls, they did not look like the picture but I didn't let them rise long enough (not enough time).
Australian labradoodle, I bet that is a cute puppy......is she big or will she be big? I love animals, so easy to love.......
yes my ratties are cute and easy to love too....
rsk
Posted by Phillipa on December 23, 2007, at 18:13:17
In reply to Re: Wahhh!! I want me a Mennigers P-doc!!! » muffled, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 23:45:19
Sorry I got one and she's not compassionate at all. So not all are the same. Just like anything else some good some bad. My best ever pdoc is in CT where I lived. He'd have a fit if he knew what's happened to me so caring no meds needed when I was seeing him. And when I moved to VA he hooked me up with one of his school chums who helped me get a job part-time at the jail and at the psych facility I worked at. Great guys. Phillipa
Posted by Wittgenstein on December 24, 2007, at 7:15:05
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » Wittgenstein, posted by rskontos on December 23, 2007, at 17:33:30
Does food ever 'look like it does in the picture'?!! I'm sure they'll be just as yummy.
My pup is about 15 pounds at the moment (maybe a little more) - she's 10 weeks - she'll mature to about the size of a Labrador, perhaps a bit bigger.
We take her for her first puppy class next weekend - can't wait as she's so eager to play.
Witti
Posted by rskontos on December 24, 2007, at 9:36:46
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » rskontos, posted by Wittgenstein on December 24, 2007, at 7:15:05
How fun! We, does this mean you and your husband? That is cool if that is the case. Nice to do things together. Yes they were very good and not too hard. Probably would look more like the picture if I let them rise longer. Cooking relaxes me.
As does my babies as my DH and I call our dogs. We do treat them like our babies. But no college fund to worry about......
Last night my daughter and I watched the discovery channel with programs about dogs. How they evolved from the wolf. How the different breeds came about so quickly, its in the genes. And dog genius program about how one dog healed his broken bond with human using stuff animals and formed geometric shapes with stuff animals it was the coolest thing I ever saw and was amazing. He was an amazing dog. Very gentle. Was living on the street when this lady rescued him and he created his own therapy using stuffed animals. Very interesting. It was documented by animal behavioralists who could not believe it but that was their only reasons for it and his behavior was very direct and very detailed and very purposeful. I loved it. And he was clearly bonded to his mistress.
All the animal lovers on Babbler would have loved this program.
rsk
Posted by Phillipa on December 24, 2007, at 19:20:29
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » Wittgenstein, posted by rskontos on December 24, 2007, at 9:36:46
And there sure are a lot of us here. Phillipa
Posted by antigua3 on December 26, 2007, at 9:00:49
In reply to Re: The best Christmas present- a 'good fit'! » rskontos, posted by Wittgenstein on December 23, 2007, at 10:39:36
Posted by rskontos on December 26, 2007, at 9:58:05
In reply to So happy for you! (nm), posted by antigua3 on December 26, 2007, at 9:00:49
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