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Posted by Phillipa on August 22, 2006, at 19:17:49
In reply to My daughter has an eating disorder and she just, posted by fca on August 22, 2006, at 18:59:49
I took my first ad was paxil l0mg no weight gain for me. Love Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on August 22, 2006, at 20:20:26
In reply to Re: My daughter has an eating disorder and she just, posted by Phillipa on August 22, 2006, at 19:17:49
> I took my first ad was paxil l0mg no weight gain for me. Love Phillipa
But Phillipa, you took Remeron and it didn't make you sleepy or gain weight. I took Remeron and gained weight in two weeks!
Thanks though.
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on August 22, 2006, at 20:23:20
In reply to My daughter has an eating disorder and she just, posted by fca on August 22, 2006, at 18:59:49
That's great that your daughter received help. Bulimia is very dangerous. I'm glad I can't purge (well sometimes I wish I could).
I gained weight on Remeron. Plus it made me so sedated I couldn't function.
I have been on Paxil before, but only for a short period ... and it was 10 years ago.
I'm just really paranoid.
Good luck to your daughter.
Maxime
> completed an eight week residential TX program while intiating remeron. seroquel and lexapro (the first two, especially remeron are notorious for weight gain)--Interestingly she did not gain or lose any weight--her diet was controlled and she could not believe how much she ate--she has Bulimia FYI. Her weight is well with in normal limits. There is substantial controversy (except for the antipsychotics) as to why people do gain weight when starting SSRIs My Best wishes fca
Posted by Phillipa on August 22, 2006, at 20:36:32
In reply to Re: My daughter has an eating disorder and she just » fca, posted by Maxime on August 22, 2006, at 20:23:20
Maxie that's what happened to me. No sleep with remeron l5mg and chloral hydrate, xanax and valium. And no wt gain on the paxil I took for two years. Love Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on August 22, 2006, at 23:28:46
In reply to Re: My daughter has an eating disorder and she just » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on August 22, 2006, at 20:36:32
> Maxie that's what happened to me. No sleep with remeron l5mg and chloral hydrate, xanax and valium. And no wt gain on the paxil I took for two years. Love Phillipa
Phillipa ... I care about you ... but are you losing it? I posted that you didn't get sedated or gain weight from Remeron. And now you are telling me the exact same thing.
Hum, are you taking extra "meds"... do share!
Maxime
Posted by UgottaHaveHope on August 23, 2006, at 2:31:20
In reply to Re: My daughter has an eating disorder and she just » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on August 22, 2006, at 23:28:46
I dont think it makes you gain weight directly. It makes me the hungriest person on Earth, which makes me want to eat more and more and more and more ...
Posted by jealibeanz on August 23, 2006, at 3:46:42
In reply to Paxil weight gain, posted by Maxime on August 22, 2006, at 14:23:03
Yeah... about 6 lbs in the first 2 weeks, so I switched to another. There were no changes in lifestyle, exercise, or eating habits.
Posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 6:02:59
In reply to Maxime, here is my theory of Paxil wght gain, posted by UgottaHaveHope on August 23, 2006, at 2:31:20
> I dont think it makes you gain weight directly. It makes me the hungriest person on Earth, which makes me want to eat more and more and more and more ...
THANK YOU! I did a lot of research on it last night, and that's what everyone said.
I can't have hunger.
So no Paxil for me.
Thanks for your honesty.
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 6:04:29
In reply to Re: Paxil weight gain, posted by jealibeanz on August 23, 2006, at 3:46:42
> Yeah... about 6 lbs in the first 2 weeks, so I switched to another. There were no changes in lifestyle, exercise, or eating habits.
Thanks! I wasn't on it long enough the first time ... it made me manic within a week.
And now there isn't going to be a second time.
Maxime
Posted by Racer on August 23, 2006, at 13:18:55
In reply to Maxime, here is my theory of Paxil wght gain, posted by UgottaHaveHope on August 23, 2006, at 2:31:20
> I dont think it makes you gain weight directly. It makes me the hungriest person on Earth, which makes me want to eat more and more and more and more ...
I took Paxil for a bit more than 2 years, and I can tell you that I didn't "eat more and more and more..." If that's what happened to you, I'm sorry. But that's not the only scenario with Paxil.
Maxime, I won't lie to you about it -- I did gain weight on Paxil. It was also very effective for me. I don't remember it increasing my hunger, though. I hope you'll consider maybe giving it a try -- if it boosts you out of the hole you're in right now, it might be worth it. Especially since it may be possible to use it to boost you temporarily, then switch you over to another med for maintenance. The weight gain didn't start for me for a while, so that might help avoid ANY weight gain.
Take care.
Posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 19:26:55
In reply to That has no resemblence to my experience with it » UgottaHaveHope, posted by Racer on August 23, 2006, at 13:18:55
*cries* I'm too broken! And there isn't another med. And what if it does make me hypomanic but then I CRASH? That would be even worse! I haven't decided what to do with the pretty pink pills. For now, they will stay in the bottle.
Thanks Racer.
Maxime
> I took Paxil for a bit more than 2 years, and I can tell you that I didn't "eat more and more and more..." If that's what happened to you, I'm sorry. But that's not the only scenario with Paxil.
>
> Maxime, I won't lie to you about it -- I did gain weight on Paxil. It was also very effective for me. I don't remember it increasing my hunger, though. I hope you'll consider maybe giving it a try -- if it boosts you out of the hole you're in right now, it might be worth it. Especially since it may be possible to use it to boost you temporarily, then switch you over to another med for maintenance. The weight gain didn't start for me for a while, so that might help avoid ANY weight gain.
>
> Take care.
Posted by UgottaHaveHOPE on August 23, 2006, at 20:59:11
In reply to That has no resemblence to my experience with it » UgottaHaveHope, posted by Racer on August 23, 2006, at 13:18:55
I agree. I would rather be overweight and stable, than looking like a model and feeling terrible. I always take the meds. Besides, more of me to LOVE
:)
Posted by UgottaHaveHOPE on August 23, 2006, at 21:00:18
In reply to I agree: Who cares about weight if med helps? » Racer, posted by UgottaHaveHOPE on August 23, 2006, at 20:59:11
Drink a lot of water. A lot.
Posted by Racer on August 23, 2006, at 22:49:40
In reply to I agree: Who cares about weight if med helps? » Racer, posted by UgottaHaveHOPE on August 23, 2006, at 20:59:11
I said that I gained weight. I also said that it might still be worth it for Maxime to give it a try, since she could stop it if she did gain weight, and since it's possible she wouldn't have to take it long enough to start to gain.
I'm very pleased for you that you can take such a view of weight gain. I do hope you're aware that many people cannot -- and that you respect that.
Posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 23:29:39
In reply to I agree: Who cares about weight if med helps? » Racer, posted by UgottaHaveHOPE on August 23, 2006, at 20:59:11
> I agree. I would rather be overweight and stable, than looking like a model and feeling terrible. I always take the meds. Besides, more of me to LOVE
>
> :)I'm anorexic! I hate myself and the way I look. I feel and look HUGE. I can't look in the mirror. I eat less than 300 calories a day. I exercise. I abuse ephedra and laxatives. Yes, I know better ... but my brain doesn't. And there is nothing glamourous about anorexia and being told I look like I have cancer (which isn't the case now but I am working on it). I've gone into cardiac arrest from laxative abuse.
I need my eating disorder. I NEED IT! No one can take it away from me. NO ONE!
I've had it. I hate this place!
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 23:32:55
In reply to That's not at all what I said » UgottaHaveHOPE, posted by Racer on August 23, 2006, at 22:49:40
I'm sorry Racer ... I'll miss you ... and Ed-UK and SLS and MidnightBlue.
Love, Maxime
> I said that I gained weight. I also said that it might still be worth it for Maxime to give it a try, since she could stop it if she did gain weight, and since it's possible she wouldn't have to take it long enough to start to gain.
>
> I'm very pleased for you that you can take such a view of weight gain. I do hope you're aware that many people cannot -- and that you respect that.
Posted by Racer on August 24, 2006, at 0:08:40
In reply to Re: That's not at all what I said » Racer, posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 23:32:55
> I'm sorry Racer ... I'll miss you ... and Ed-UK and SLS and MidnightBlue.
>
> Love, Maxime
>
>
Honey, I'm sorry you feel you have to leave, but you know what? You don't have to miss me -- you can email. You have the technology. ;-}Take care, sweet Maxime, and know that we do care about you.
Posted by UgottaHaveHOPE on August 24, 2006, at 3:15:48
In reply to You could improve your aim... » Maxime, posted by Racer on August 24, 2006, at 0:08:40
I love you, you are great on here. But please don't assume that each of my posts are a direct response to something you have said. Most of the time when I post, I am writing to the general public on this board. Or that is what I try to do.
Whatever I say, all the time, is just my OPINION, and I have no problem with ppl disagreeing. We are all different, and the meds affect us differently.
Anyways, Racer, thanks for all of your input. Thanks for helping so many on this board.
Posted by UgottaHaveHOPE on August 24, 2006, at 3:23:42
In reply to Re: I agree: Who cares about weight if med helps? » UgottaHaveHOPE, posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 23:29:39
Dear Maxime, I have been on both ends of that spectrum, skinny and feeling terrible or overweight and feeling good. I wasn't making a personal comment to you. I don't know you or anyone else on this board. And to everyone, feel free to twist what I say because I don't take anything in here personal.
When I was skinny (from anxiety, dropping 20 lbs. in a week), people told me I looked "better than ever." If they only knew I felt worse than ever.
> I'm anorexic! I hate myself and the way I look. I feel and look HUGE. I can't look in the mirror. I eat less than 300 calories a day. I exercise. I abuse ephedra and laxatives. Yes, I know better ... but my brain doesn't. And there is nothing glamourous about anorexia and being told I look like I have cancer (which isn't the case now but I am working on it). I've gone into cardiac arrest from laxative abuse.
>
> I need my eating disorder. I NEED IT! No one can take it away from me. NO ONE!
>
> I've had it. I hate this place!
>
> Maxime
Posted by Maximus on August 24, 2006, at 18:06:06
In reply to Re: I agree: Who cares about weight if med helps? » UgottaHaveHOPE, posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 23:29:39
I'm anorexic! I hate myself and the way I look. I feel and look HUGE. I can't look in the mirror. I eat less than 300 calories a day. I exercise. I abuse ephedra and laxatives. Yes, I know better ... but my brain doesn't. And there is nothing glamourous about anorexia and being told I look like I have cancer (which isn't the case now but I am working on it). I've gone into cardiac arrest from laxative abuse.
>
> I need my eating disorder. I NEED IT! No one can take it away from me. NO ONE!
>
> I've had it. I hate this place!
Hi Maxime,This is disturbing, to say the least. Actually, do you have the skeletal look? Prisoners in Nazi prison were given 400 calories a day, with the result we know.
>I need my eating disorder. I NEED IT! No one can >take it away from me. NO ONE!
If i understood it well, you have chosen to stay ill and unwell? The nature of that illness prevents yourself to make clever compromises.
It seems clear to me that you have no choice but hospitalization. What do you think about it?
I'm sorry for the lack of visits at the hospital, they surely need more empathy toward you... You deserve so much better.
For the meds part, i'm not a doctor, but it appears clearly to me that you could benefit greatly from a treatment for Borderline disorder + ECT. Labels aren't important. Treatments are.
Well, what to say, keep us informed. Be strong and DO SOMETHING!
(((Maxime)))
Posted by MidnightBlue on August 24, 2006, at 21:39:25
In reply to Re: I agree: Who cares about weight if med helps? » UgottaHaveHOPE, posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 23:29:39
Maxime,
I'm sorry you are hurting so much! I wish I could fix it. I wish I could make the doctor's wife offer YOU tea! And I wish you could take meds without lactating.
I wish you PEACE. I wish you nights of good sleep, days of healthy food, and bright sunshine and exercise. I wish for you to feel comfortable in your own skin, and to know just how priceless you really are.
And I wish you would stay. Because you are so smart and gutsy. We need you.
HUGS,
MidnightBlue
Posted by Declan on August 25, 2006, at 0:44:25
In reply to Re: I agree: Who cares about weight if med helps? » Maxime, posted by MidnightBlue on August 24, 2006, at 21:39:25
Hey, I know you'll have heard this before, but you can eat yourself thin. This is only going to be desirable if you like eating but hate being fat.
You should see what I eat....lots and lots of stuff. Some of the rules for me were
1. Some good protein with every meal
2. Only eat real food (no factory food)
3. Get the fatty acid balance right.
4. Lots of fresh fruits and vegies, especially low glycaemic ones.
5. No skipping of meals.
6. Get your hormome balance rightJust as you can eat yourself thin, maybe you can starve yourself into fatness? I've been surprised by how little some overweight people eat.
Declan
Posted by UgottaHaveHope on August 25, 2006, at 1:17:55
In reply to Re: I agree: Who cares about weight if med helps?, posted by Declan on August 25, 2006, at 0:44:25
What is that? In fact, can you elaborate on all of your points??? That was good stuff.
Posted by SLS on August 25, 2006, at 8:12:04
In reply to Re: That's not at all what I said » Racer, posted by Maxime on August 23, 2006, at 23:32:55
> I'm sorry Racer ... I'll miss you ... and Ed-UK and SLS and MidnightBlue.
>
> Love, Maxime
Not everyone understands ED. I'm sure that I don't have as complete an understanding as I would like to. I think that good and well-intentioned people are frustrated that they can't help you get well. Perhaps you can take this into consideration as you make your decision as to whether or not you will continue to participate here.I hope you stay.
- Scott
Posted by Declan on August 25, 2006, at 14:26:31
In reply to Re: Fatty acid balance? Huh?, posted by UgottaHaveHope on August 25, 2006, at 1:17:55
The omega3 vs omega6 balance. We are all depleted of omega3s, from factory farming, grains fed to cattle, and whatever else. So fish oil is good, especially if you have depression, arthritis and inflammation (as I do). I've no idea how that inflammation is measured, probably things like C reactive protein.
I lost 20kg or so by eating like this.
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