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Posted by jerrympls on October 19, 2004, at 8:15:30
In reply to I can't hold on...., posted by jerrympls on October 17, 2004, at 1:52:10
I'm supposed to start Cymbalta today. Do I? or Don't I? I've read a lot of posts about Cymbalta causing excessive drowsiness & irritability AND loss of all sexual desire.
I've also read one post where someone has had no side effects at all.
I'm torn.
Anyone?
Jerry
Posted by jujube on October 19, 2004, at 8:33:05
In reply to Re: I can't hold on...., posted by jerrympls on October 19, 2004, at 8:15:30
Jerry,
Only you can decide whether or not to start Cymbalta. However, if you don't start, you may be missing out on your chance for relief. I can't tell you what to do, but I wouldn't turn my back on something that could potentially help me. And, don't be discouraged. Remember, you will likely still be going through some Effexor withdrawal when you start the Cymbalta. So, be patient. Give it time to get the Effexor out of your system and for the Cymbalta to start working. Don't give up hope Jerry. Keep the faith that things will get better.
Tamara
> I'm supposed to start Cymbalta today. Do I? or Don't I? I've read a lot of posts about Cymbalta causing excessive drowsiness & irritability AND loss of all sexual desire.
>
> I've also read one post where someone has had no side effects at all.
>
> I'm torn.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Jerry
Posted by jerrympls on October 19, 2004, at 9:05:40
In reply to Re: I can't hold on.... » jerrympls, posted by jujube on October 19, 2004, at 8:33:05
> Jerry,
>
> Only you can decide whether or not to start Cymbalta. However, if you don't start, you may be missing out on your chance for relief. I can't tell you what to do, but I wouldn't turn my back on something that could potentially help me. And, don't be discouraged. Remember, you will likely still be going through some Effexor withdrawal when you start the Cymbalta. So, be patient. Give it time to get the Effexor out of your system and for the Cymbalta to start working. Don't give up hope Jerry. Keep the faith that things will get better.
>
> Tamara
>
>
> > I'm supposed to start Cymbalta today. Do I? or Don't I? I've read a lot of posts about Cymbalta causing excessive drowsiness & irritability AND loss of all sexual desire.
> >
> > I've also read one post where someone has had no side effects at all.
> >
> > I'm torn.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Jerry
>
>Thanks tamara....you've been such great support....
Jerry
Posted by jujube on October 19, 2004, at 10:06:47
In reply to Re: I can't hold on.... » jujube, posted by jerrympls on October 19, 2004, at 9:05:40
It is my pleasure Jerry. I hope that in the weeks ahead things start to improve for you. Grab hold of the hope that things will get better and don't let go. Remember, to every thing there is a season . . . Let's hope that the season will be changing for you real soon.
Take good care.
Tamara
Posted by sundancer on October 19, 2004, at 12:42:47
In reply to Re: I can't hold on...., posted by jerrympls on October 19, 2004, at 8:15:30
Jerry,
I want you to know I ave been reading your posts the last few days and even if I can't imagine what you might be going through my heart is breaking as I read your pain and despair. My thoughts are with you alot - even though I don't know you - and I pray to God to be with you in this difficult time. You have friends in all over the place, Jerry, and we hold our breath as you pass through this dark passage. Don't let go Jerry, don't let your spirit be broken. Hold on please. I am one who was left by a dear close friend in suicide - it was ten years ago this June and I will never live it down. Don't end your life Jerry. We are here to help.
Lena
Posted by corafree on October 19, 2004, at 17:26:29
In reply to I can't hold on...., posted by jerrympls on October 17, 2004, at 1:52:10
Yes and you will. Please, if I will, you. I'm at the end too, it feeellllsss. But can't you remember when things changed in a day? It can happen again. Hold on to me and to the friends here.
To anyone that responded to URGE,PLAN,TOOLS by Corafree, I'm hanging on, but my daughter's baby may be lung-compromised, and I'm trying to assist (while practically unable to assist myself). Dr. Bob has sent your posts to I think social babble and all are coming up 'can not find', so excuse no replies.
JERRY .... I'M IN THE SAME BOAT .... HELP ME STEADY THAT BOAT BY STAYING IN THE BOAT WITH ME!!!!! WE'LL MAKE IT SO SHORE God bless Jerry, fill his heart and mind with peace, walk for him, talk for him, in your name. cf
Posted by jujube on October 19, 2004, at 17:36:17
In reply to Re: I can't hold on.... » jerrympls, posted by corafree on October 19, 2004, at 17:26:29
Corafree,
Good to hear that you are hanging on. Don't ever give up. Like you said, you never know when things will get better and what tomorrow will bring. I'm glad to hear that, in spite of your own difficulties, you are trying to help your daughter out. Helping her out may be some of the medicine you need to get your mind off of your own despair for a while. Sometimes when we are busy helping others, it helps us realize that we are important and there is meaning to our lives. Sometimes it doesn't matter how much success we have enjoyed, when we are there for others in their time of need, it can fill our hearts with joy and our minds with a sense of accomplishment and purpose.
Take good care Corafree. And I hope your grandchild will be ok.
Tamara
> Yes and you will. Please, if I will, you. I'm at the end too, it feeellllsss. But can't you remember when things changed in a day? It can happen again. Hold on to me and to the friends here.
>
> To anyone that responded to URGE,PLAN,TOOLS by Corafree, I'm hanging on, but my daughter's baby may be lung-compromised, and I'm trying to assist (while practically unable to assist myself). Dr. Bob has sent your posts to I think social babble and all are coming up 'can not find', so excuse no replies.
>
> JERRY .... I'M IN THE SAME BOAT .... HELP ME STEADY THAT BOAT BY STAYING IN THE BOAT WITH ME!!!!! WE'LL MAKE IT SO SHORE God bless Jerry, fill his heart and mind with peace, walk for him, talk for him, in your name. cf
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 20, 2004, at 0:35:17
In reply to Re: I can't hold on.... » jerrympls, posted by corafree on October 19, 2004, at 17:26:29
> Dr. Bob has sent your posts to I think social babble and all are coming up 'can not find'
Sorry about that, I'll fix those links.
Bob
Posted by jerrympls on October 20, 2004, at 0:58:02
In reply to Re: sent your posts to social babble, posted by Dr. Bob on October 20, 2004, at 0:35:17
> > Dr. Bob has sent your posts to I think social babble and all are coming up 'can not find'
>
> Sorry about that, I'll fix those links.
>
> BobI was also talking about Effexor withdrawl and about going on Cymbalta - why are these posts being redirected to the social board??
Jerry
Posted by iris2 on October 20, 2004, at 12:37:48
In reply to Re: I can't hold on....yes u can!!, posted by jerrympls on October 17, 2004, at 19:42:12
Jerry,
I have been as you feel now many times. I have been rushed to hospitals several times. Last time they had to put me on a respirator.
You are not alone.
One very important way I now get through some of my worst times is to take (as someone else her suggested) a small amount of an anti-psychotic or major tranquilizer. I take Perphenazine about 2-4mg. It works best for me. Some people are using Zyprexia. What ever works best for you. I cannot tell you how much this can help you through these impossible times. These meds numb you a little. Those terrible negative feelings and the hurt deep inside can be lessened dramatically by these medicines. I STRONGLY suggest getting your doctor to write a script for one of these and to take it. See if you do not feel better. It will not change your life but the intensity of what you are going through will be lessened.
I would not take a large amount of one of these meds. You will probably have side effects on larger amounts like akethesia that you do not want. If you have this on a small amount it is easily resolved by an Antidyskinetic like Cogentin which I took for several years or various other medications one being a beta- blocker like propanolol. At small doses of major tranquilizers most do not have this problem anyway but I wanted to put your mind at rest if you do it is easily resolved.
My parents used to not get involved much unless I was hospitalized. So subconsciously I think I got worse and suicidal in order to get the attention and help I needed. Only when in crisis did they respond to my needs. One cannot keep looking for needed help from people, family or not, that are not able to provide for your needs. Please realize that they most likely do care but do not know and/or are not able to meet your needs. Do not keep banging your head trying to get needs met where they will not be. It only makes you feel more helpless. It sounds like your therapist is helpful. We on this board are willing and able to try and meet some of your needs. Do you have any friends right now that could be helpful? Other family members? This is not a time to feel self conscious about your needs!YOU ARE NOT ALONE AND IT DOES GET BETTER.
We have so little time on this earth one has to think when you are able that one might as well stay around and see if you can eek out some good from it. You will. For me it is like game of strategy. To try and make more of my life worth living as opposed to the rest I would prefer not to live. I understand the suffering seems endless and intolerable but it is not. Believe all of us.
The small amount of joy or happiness far out ways the lengthy time in pain and despair.
I cannot tell you how much taking this major tranquilizer has gotten me through some of the worst times. It can just numb you a little so you do not have such intensity of feeling.Hope this helps. Keep us posted.
irene
Posted by Sebastian on October 21, 2004, at 16:14:01
In reply to I can't hold on...., posted by jerrympls on October 17, 2004, at 1:52:10
I'm 28, been sick since 20 also. I wish I were dead too, but that would give people too much pleasure. What is the point of dieing? More meds every time I go to the doctor. I want to be getting better, not just with meds, more and more meds. I don't know if its war, or just life? More medicine will make you feel better, true too. You may not make a difference but atleast people will know. If not, make them know. It will have some form of impact. Drugs are all I know anymore, was illegal, now prescription, funny how they are similar. Guess its happyness in a pill.
Posted by corafree on October 21, 2004, at 22:48:47
In reply to Re: Almost there...., posted by Sebastian on October 21, 2004, at 16:14:01
Been there! Feel like saying, _ _ _ _ it all, and, yeah, I think sometimes we do need to SAY that!
Maybe you should stay away from any psych meds, you, and the closest person to you in the world (one that loves you as you love them), agree you can live w/o.
I'm thinking about you and saying 'it wouldn't give me pleasure, it would make me very sad; and I'm already very sad'!!!
Wish I could go back to your age; would have listended to others (not just know-it-all me and know-it-all docs) more. cf
> I'm 28, been sick since 20 also. I wish I were dead too, but that would give people too much pleasure. What is the point of dieing? More meds every time I go to the doctor. I want to be getting better, not just with meds, more and more meds. I don't know if its war, or just life? More medicine will make you feel better, true too. You may not make a difference but atleast people will know. If not, make them know. It will have some form of impact. Drugs are all I know anymore, was illegal, now prescription, funny how they are similar. Guess its happyness in a pill.
Posted by iris2 on October 22, 2004, at 11:08:54
In reply to Re: Almost there...., posted by Sebastian on October 21, 2004, at 16:14:01
I've been there myself. Been ill (almost died at 15). I have had this depression for 30 years. I wished I were dead for most of my life. Sometimes I tried. As I get older I do not think about it much anymore, I am finding it much easier to live in the present
What meds are you on and what meds have you tried? Are you seeing a pdoc now?There are several very learned people on this site who can help you tease out what medications you should or could be on or at least try. It is not yet such an exact science that anyone can tell you from your symptoms exactly which medication will be the right one for you. But we are getting ever closer:):):):)
In ways I am jealous of you. You are still so young. You have not been ill long, although no doubt it feels like an eternity. So much of life yet to live and so much has been done with medications and is still being done that you have a great chance to find a medication for yourself that works and will lead a happy and productive life.
I am not able to take most medications that have the potential to alleviate my depression because I have this stupid terrible unconscionable bladder disease that causes me great pain and frequency/urgency with almost every med I take. So even if I might find a medication that works for me I probably will not be able to take it. You in my mind are lucky. You can try any medication that might work. And you have a whole life ahead of you. You will find medication(s) that make your life well worth living I have no doubt. Let us help you on this sight. As I said there a several people here who know a lot about medications (I do not know much) and are kind enough to share and advise. Take advantage of it if you already have not.
PLEASE do not be impatient. Finding the right medication(s) can take some time. I know it su***. We have no other choice. One day perhaps you will be able to look back on this time and realize how short it really was. I hope so. In the mean time let us know your dx and what meds you have taken and currently are so that we can help you.
For goodness sake don't let those jerks on the outside world win.
"I wish I were dead too, but that would give people too much pleasure."I am not too sure what you meant here but I have my own reasons for not letting "them" win.
There will be a day that you will make a difference! You already have just by writing this post.
Medicines will never be the entire answer. You need not worry about that. For me it is like food. The food provides the energy to your body but it is you and your decisions that shape what you do with the energy. It is no different with medications. They might provide the ability to think more positive, have motivation or be less anxious. You decide what you want to be motivated to do or how to use your creative being to change your surroundings or who and how you want to interact with and influence now that you are not so anxious. It is truly you who is in the drivers seat not the medications. Life is about living, which provides many choices as to how you want to live that life, as apposed to "surviving" or as you call it war which has no choices but to get through it.
I have great hopes for you. I can tell from what you wrote that you have a good head on your shoulders. Let us help you through this and get to the other side.
Good luck,
Irene
Posted by Sebastian on October 23, 2004, at 9:52:21
In reply to Re: Almost there.... » Sebastian, posted by iris2 on October 22, 2004, at 11:08:54
I feel that my life has been threatened. I am convinced that at atleast one point in my life, people wanted me dead, for some thing that they 'think' I had done. I was attacked twice. One time they got me prety good, kicked me unconcous and broke my nose in front of a whole crowd of people in public. I left that place because I was outcasted. that was 9 years ago, since then I have taken so many meds, that I can't posibly remember all of them. Curently I take 10 mg zyprexa, 60 mg celexa, 400 mg bupropion, 50 mg lamictal(on my way up). I've learned my lesson, I don't trust people.
Posted by corafree on October 23, 2004, at 10:34:14
In reply to Re: Almost there...., posted by Sebastian on October 23, 2004, at 9:52:21
S -
You haven't said much about your dx or 'label'?!, if you care to share) or why people are out to get you (if you care to share.)
You can trust this site, as far as privacy.
What is the bupropion for?
If ask too much, sorry.
I'm sorry that you are feeling so bad.
Hey all you pioneers to PB, anyone else watching this particular psycho-babble site????
I think some more insightful wisdom may be needed here, as I am a bit of a newcomer.
I can assure you I've been helped here S, trust me. Try have a laid-back Sat. cf
Posted by flipsactown on October 23, 2004, at 12:36:52
In reply to Re: I can't hold on...., posted by jerrympls on October 19, 2004, at 8:15:30
Hello Jerry,
I hope you went ahead with the Cymbalta, as you need to try every ADs or meds and leave no stone unturned. I have not been around for awhile and thought I should check on you, since you have not emailed me or IMed me. You have my email address, so don't hesitate to email me or IM me when you need to talk, anytime. Hope you get better soon.
Your friend,
FST> I'm supposed to start Cymbalta today. Do I? or Don't I? I've read a lot of posts about Cymbalta causing excessive drowsiness & irritability AND loss of all sexual desire.
>
> I've also read one post where someone has had no side effects at all.
>
> I'm torn.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Jerry
Posted by corafree on October 23, 2004, at 13:26:41
In reply to Re: I can't hold on.... » jerrympls, posted by flipsactown on October 23, 2004, at 12:36:52
Jerry - Go the home page and scroll down until you see a lot of posts on Cymbalta vs Eff-XR, and respond to some of them. This will get you in those loops, that is until someone changes the topic name; sometimes you'll have to go back to home, scroll down, and jump back in again. I'm also interested in seeing how all are doing on Cymbalta. My main prob' is anxiety and panic attacks, and have a 'label' of PTSD, BPersonD. I am on Eff-XR 225 divided in two doses a day, trazodone for sleep, and Klonopin. I pray could find something for this fear, panic, and anxiety attacks, 'cuz Klonopin is not working. Anyone had success w/ anything, but Xanax, to relieve panic attacks? Seems panic attacks make me feel more suicidal than anything! cf
> Hello Jerry,
>
> I hope you went ahead with the Cymbalta, as you need to try every ADs or meds and leave no stone unturned. I have not been around for awhile and thought I should check on you, since you have not emailed me or IMed me. You have my email address, so don't hesitate to email me or IM me when you need to talk, anytime. Hope you get better soon.
>
> Your friend,
> FST
>
> > I'm supposed to start Cymbalta today. Do I? or Don't I? I've read a lot of posts about Cymbalta causing excessive drowsiness & irritability AND loss of all sexual desire.
> >
> > I've also read one post where someone has had no side effects at all.
> >
> > I'm torn.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Jerry
>
>> Hello Jerry,
>
> I hope you went ahead with the Cymbalta, as you need to try every ADs or meds and leave no stone unturned. I have not been around for awhile and thought I should check on you, since you have not emailed me or IMed me. You have my email address, so don't hesitate to email me or IM me when you need to talk, anytime. Hope you get better soon.
>
> Your friend,
> FST
>
> > I'm supposed to start Cymbalta today. Do I? or Don't I? I've read a lot of posts about Cymbalta causing excessive drowsiness & irritability AND loss of all sexual desire.
> >
> > I've also read one post where someone has had no side effects at all.
> >
> > I'm torn.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Jerry
>
>
Posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2004, at 20:44:26
In reply to Re: Almost there.... » Sebastian, posted by iris2 on October 22, 2004, at 11:08:54
>
WHO ARE THESE POSTS FOR??????!!
>
> I've been there myself. Been ill (almost died at 15). I have had this depression for 30 years. I wished I were dead for most of my life. Sometimes I tried. As I get older I do not think about it much anymore, I am finding it much easier to live in the present
>
>
> What meds are you on and what meds have you tried? Are you seeing a pdoc now?
>
> There are several very learned people on this site who can help you tease out what medications you should or could be on or at least try. It is not yet such an exact science that anyone can tell you from your symptoms exactly which medication will be the right one for you. But we are getting ever closer:):):):)
>
> In ways I am jealous of you. You are still so young. You have not been ill long, although no doubt it feels like an eternity. So much of life yet to live and so much has been done with medications and is still being done that you have a great chance to find a medication for yourself that works and will lead a happy and productive life.
>
> I am not able to take most medications that have the potential to alleviate my depression because I have this stupid terrible unconscionable bladder disease that causes me great pain and frequency/urgency with almost every med I take. So even if I might find a medication that works for me I probably will not be able to take it. You in my mind are lucky. You can try any medication that might work. And you have a whole life ahead of you. You will find medication(s) that make your life well worth living I have no doubt. Let us help you on this sight. As I said there a several people here who know a lot about medications (I do not know much) and are kind enough to share and advise. Take advantage of it if you already have not.
>
> PLEASE do not be impatient. Finding the right medication(s) can take some time. I know it su***. We have no other choice. One day perhaps you will be able to look back on this time and realize how short it really was. I hope so. In the mean time let us know your dx and what meds you have taken and currently are so that we can help you.
>
> For goodness sake don't let those jerks on the outside world win.
> "I wish I were dead too, but that would give people too much pleasure."
>
> I am not too sure what you meant here but I have my own reasons for not letting "them" win.
>
> There will be a day that you will make a difference! You already have just by writing this post.
>
> Medicines will never be the entire answer. You need not worry about that. For me it is like food. The food provides the energy to your body but it is you and your decisions that shape what you do with the energy. It is no different with medications. They might provide the ability to think more positive, have motivation or be less anxious. You decide what you want to be motivated to do or how to use your creative being to change your surroundings or who and how you want to interact with and influence now that you are not so anxious. It is truly you who is in the drivers seat not the medications. Life is about living, which provides many choices as to how you want to live that life, as apposed to "surviving" or as you call it war which has no choices but to get through it.
>
> I have great hopes for you. I can tell from what you wrote that you have a good head on your shoulders. Let us help you through this and get to the other side.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Irene
>
Posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2004, at 20:46:19
In reply to Re: Almost there.... » iris2, posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2004, at 20:44:26
HELP ME PLEASE. I'm on Cymbala now and can't stop sleeping. I just want to die. PLEASE SOMEONE
jerry
Posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2004, at 20:48:14
In reply to Re: I can't hold on.... » jerrympls, posted by flipsactown on October 23, 2004, at 12:36:52
> Hello Jerry,
>
> I hope you went ahead with the Cymbalta, as you need to try every ADs or meds and leave no stone unturned. I have not been around for awhile and thought I should check on you, since you have not emailed me or IMed me. You have my email address, so don't hesitate to email me or IM me when you need to talk, anytime. Hope you get better soon.
>
> Your friend,
> FST
>
> > I'm supposed to start Cymbalta today. Do I? or Don't I? I've read a lot of posts about Cymbalta causing excessive drowsiness & irritability AND loss of all sexual desire.
> >
> > I've also read one post where someone has had no side effects at all.
> >
> > I'm torn.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Jerry
>
>
I'm on the cymbalta.....I can't stop sleeping..I'm so alone...I feel like dying. help
jerry
Posted by flipsactown on October 23, 2004, at 21:34:54
In reply to Re: I CANT HOLD ON, posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2004, at 20:46:19
Jerry,
I am here. How can I help you?
FST
> HELP ME PLEASE. I'm on Cymbala now and can't stop sleeping. I just want to die. PLEASE SOMEONE
>
> jerry
Posted by corafree on October 23, 2004, at 22:31:39
In reply to Re: Almost there.... » iris2, posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2004, at 20:44:26
I believe posts are for jerrympls. Someone let me know if I'm right on or incorrect. cf
Posted by corafree on October 23, 2004, at 22:39:31
In reply to Re: Almost there.... » jerrympls, posted by corafree on October 23, 2004, at 22:31:39
Following up self again. Hey, call 9-1-1, or call anyone you know to take you to ER. You need emergency med attn. Don't leave us here. We/I have felt just like you. No one is going to come. You have to reach out. I don't know how else to help you. I've been you're age and tried suicide. Wonderful things happened in my life after that attempt. Things can turn around. Please contact somebody .... please. cf
Posted by corafree on October 23, 2004, at 22:48:02
In reply to Re: sent your posts to social babble, posted by Dr. Bob on October 20, 2004, at 0:35:17
When you get suicidal ideation and suicidal posts, why are you sending them to social babble? Why do they not go to psychosocial babble? Maybe you should add a board called suicide. Can you pls explain. cf
Posted by jerrympls on October 24, 2004, at 0:40:29
In reply to Re: sent your posts to social babble » Dr. Bob, posted by corafree on October 23, 2004, at 22:48:02
> When you get suicidal ideation and suicidal posts, why are you sending them to social babble? Why do they not go to psychosocial babble? Maybe you should add a board called suicide. Can you pls explain. cf
I'd like to know too Dr. Bob. My suicidal ideation could be because of the withdrawl of Effexor and the start of Cymblata. I feel like you're hiding my posts for some unspecified reason.Thanks
Jerry
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