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Posted by Caleb462 on March 12, 2003, at 22:50:38
I think I'm going to begin harvesting my own opium, and will medicate my GAD/OCD/Depression/Social Anxiety by chasing the dragon. Haha, I would love to see the look on my former therapist's face if I told her that.
Anyway, yes I am seriously planning on doing this... but I was just wondering, has anyone else ever noticed the STRONG anti-obsessional effects of opiates and opiod drugs. I take 15-30 mg hydrocodone whenever I can get my hands on it (which isn't very often), and it's amazing how drastically it reduces obsessive thinking. No other drug, licit or illicit, can do this for me. I wonder if there is a relation between the brain's opiod system and OCD. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
Posted by Krissy P on March 12, 2003, at 23:30:29
In reply to Selfmedication/Anti-obsessional qualities of opiod, posted by Caleb462 on March 12, 2003, at 22:50:38
Yep-Vicodin was my drug of choice a few years back- I detoxed, and haven't touched the stuff in a year. I had strong anti-obsessional effects on it. I also felt the high, etc. Sometimes I think the mood-aletring drugs-such as the opiods work better than AD's, AP, and MD's combined
> I think I'm going to begin harvesting my own opium, and will medicate my GAD/OCD/Depression/Social Anxiety by chasing the dragon. Haha, I would love to see the look on my former therapist's face if I told her that.
>
> Anyway, yes I am seriously planning on doing this... but I was just wondering, has anyone else ever noticed the STRONG anti-obsessional effects of opiates and opiod drugs. I take 15-30 mg hydrocodone whenever I can get my hands on it (which isn't very often), and it's amazing how drastically it reduces obsessive thinking. No other drug, licit or illicit, can do this for me. I wonder if there is a relation between the brain's opiod system and OCD. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
Posted by Jack Smith on March 13, 2003, at 12:41:02
In reply to Selfmedication/Anti-obsessional qualities of opiod, posted by Caleb462 on March 12, 2003, at 22:50:38
ACE, read the following. I think this may be your answer. FWIW, I don't see Lithium being very helpful for your OCD but I hope you are presently surprised. If you want my opinion on what you should do about your OCD, email me at [email protected] -- you may not like my answer, though.
JACK
> I was just wondering, has anyone else ever noticed the STRONG anti-obsessional effects of opiates and opiod drugs. I take 15-30 mg hydrocodone whenever I can get my hands on it (which isn't very often), and it's amazing how drastically it reduces obsessive thinking. No other drug, licit or illicit, can do this for me. I wonder if there is a relation between the brain's opiod system and OCD. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
Posted by fairnymph on March 13, 2003, at 13:48:14
In reply to Selfmedication/Anti-obsessional qualities of opiod, posted by Caleb462 on March 12, 2003, at 22:50:38
A psychiatrist I used to see, Dr. Koran, who heads the Stanford University clinic, is conducting a trial of oral morphine for OCD.
So yeah, opiates can help. Be careful though -- addiction is all too risky with any opiates.
Posted by linkadge on March 13, 2003, at 14:51:12
In reply to Selfmedication/Anti-obsessional qualities of opiod, posted by Caleb462 on March 12, 2003, at 22:50:38
After going for a long run, one can achieve a
somewhat breif state of emotional freedom.
Feeling like you can let go. The endorphens
do this.Enough heroin will cure any mental ilness,
and simultaiusly cause every one.
Linkadge
Posted by the blue professor on March 13, 2003, at 15:34:41
In reply to Yes, posted by linkadge on March 13, 2003, at 14:51:12
Warning - Warning - Danger (robot waving arms)
If you think you have had obsessions, just wait till you take opiods on a somewhat regular basis for a month or so. You'll need more, and more, and more...just to feel normal.
Posted by Caleb462 on March 13, 2003, at 22:56:10
In reply to Celeb462........, posted by the blue professor on March 13, 2003, at 15:34:41
> Warning - Warning - Danger (robot waving arms)
>
> If you think you have had obsessions, just wait till you take opiods on a somewhat regular basis for a month or so. You'll need more, and more, and more...just to feel normal.Yeah... I hope I don't develop any kind of serious habit. I doubt I'll be able to harvest enough opium to even have a habit in the first place, but I'm well aware of the risks.
It sounds stupid, but I'd actually prefer having a serious addiction right now, over the depression/anxiety/OCD.
Posted by judy1 on March 14, 2003, at 0:46:19
In reply to Selfmedication/Anti-obsessional qualities of opiod, posted by Caleb462 on March 12, 2003, at 22:50:38
actually I do take morphine (ms contin) for depressive episodes and have done so for quite a while. I can't take ADs because I get manic, so this is my drug of choice and it works extremely well. I've gone on and tapered off many times w/o problems- the key for you will be if you can keep it under control w/o escalating the dose- I can- and if you can stop once the depression starts to lift. (and the biggie- getting a doc to prescribe it for you) good luck-judy
Posted by Krissy P on March 14, 2003, at 1:23:05
In reply to Re: Celeb462........, posted by Caleb462 on March 13, 2003, at 22:56:10
No, it doesn't sound stupid, this is what you're feeling-I've been there. I actually thought about ordering Vicodin online today-solely for the high it gives me, because I was feeling so down the last few nights. But, man, I won't do it-I can't do it. I've come too far. And I would definately not be taking it for any physical pain-just emotional. Not to mention I don't even know if it's legal to buy that stuff online???!!!!
Hang in there:-)
Kristen
==================================================================================================It sounds stupid, but I'd actually prefer having a serious addiction right now, over the depression/anxiety/OCD.
Posted by Caleb462 on March 14, 2003, at 3:03:32
In reply to Just a comment *shiver at the thought* » Caleb462, posted by Krissy P on March 14, 2003, at 1:23:05
> No, it doesn't sound stupid, this is what you're feeling-I've been there. I actually thought about ordering Vicodin online today-solely for the high it gives me, because I was feeling so down the last few nights. But, man, I won't do it-I can't do it. I've come too far. And I would definately not be taking it for any physical pain-just emotional. Not to mention I don't even know if it's legal to buy that stuff online???!!!!
> Hang in there:-)
> Kristen
>Thanks a lot for the support. I definitely need it.
And no, it is not legal to order vicodin online. Ordering non-scheduled meds is fine, and so is ordering a limited supply of scheduled meds with a prescription. However, if you were to get caught importing a schedule III drug into the united states without a prescription, well, yeah... big trouble.
And good for you about not going back to that stuff. I don't want anyone thinking my posts are condoning using illicit drugs to self-medicate, I condone it for MYSELF, but myself only.
Posted by Krissy P on March 14, 2003, at 10:58:08
In reply to Re: Just a comment *shiver at the thought*, posted by Caleb462 on March 14, 2003, at 3:03:32
Thanks for this! I never would do anything illegal-that's just me-thank the Lord above. How scary! But it goes to show how addicting these opiods/narcs can be!!! And I am proud of myself for stepping away even from the thought! I have to give myself a pat on the back (something a therapist told me a while back-which I thought was stupid!) But in a case like this-No Way would I ever order meds online-let alone a lot of other stuff)
Isn't the internet a trip????
All the best, Kristen
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Thanks a lot for the support. I definitely need it.
And no, it is not legal to order vicodin online. Ordering non-scheduled meds is fine, and so is ordering a limited supply of scheduled meds with a prescription. However, if you were to get caught importing a schedule III drug into the united states without a prescription, well, yeah... big trouble.
And good for you about not going back to that stuff. I don't want anyone thinking my posts are condoning using illicit drugs to self-medicate, I condone it for MYSELF, but myself only.
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