Posted by bleauberry on July 5, 2008, at 20:58:11
In reply to For a short time... » Crotale, posted by Racer on July 5, 2008, at 15:44:59
On topic...I tried pindolol for about a week with prozac. I felt a sense of improvement on day three where trees seemed greener and my toothbrush looked more purple. It was over a decade ago and we actually had a thread here about green grass and purple toothbrushes! :) Off topic...how I could remember that after ECT, and yet other things are totally wiped out, I have no idea. Back on topic...I could not withstand the dizziness, tiredness, and loss of blood pressure. I could barely even walk from my car across a parking lot, not to mention actually work, which is what I had to do to feed my family and pay a mortgage. So pindolol went bye bye.
Off topic to Racer...
Yeah, I second guess myself all the time. Enough times that I've even gone back to try a lousy med three or four more times, always thinking it would be different this time, I would be stronger and more determined this time. Not. It never works. The side effects you endured the first time are usually the same or worse. And you don't fully remember or recall how devastating they were until you actually swallow that pill and feel them again.I know we differ on this, and I respect that entirely, but when someone is on their knees sobbing after starting a new medication, that is not a side effect. That is called, in clinical terms, deterioration. People rarely go from that to feeling better. It is not a matter of waiting for it to kick in, because it aint gonna do that. It's already kicked in, in the wrong way. It aint gonna turn around into some miracle. If it starts real bad, it will probably not have a good outcome. Clinical evidence supports that. Studies have been done looking specifically at that. Basically it goes like this...early improvement indicates higher likelihood of response...no early improvement indicates possible response, but delayed longer...early deterioration indicates likelihood of zero response or further deterioration, patient feels better when it is stopped.
I hate second guessin myself too. Gets me into trouble over and over. I'm moving ahead into new ground. There are plenty of other causes of psychiatric illnesses besides the overly simplistic flawed unproven theories of deficient neurotransmitters. I mean, if that was so true, Tianeptine would never work for anyone. The fact that is works on neuroplasticity, nerve growth factor, gene communication, HPA axis regulation, dendrite growth, and other unique stuff, well, let's put our second guessing behind us and look forward to a new direction. We've played the reuptake inhibition game more than anyone should ever have to bear, including my worst enemy.
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