Posted by tensor on July 29, 2022, at 9:09:12
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin/bupropion as needed, posted by Christ_empowered on July 29, 2022, at 8:06:32
> hi. if I recall correctly, wellbutrin is closely related to Tenuate, one of milder (read: less potentially addictive, supposedly less crazy making) diet pills. Tenuate enjoyed some popularity, back when diet pills were (somewhat) socially acceptable.
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> Perhaps ask your doctor about Tenuate? I read somewhere (I read a lot...full of fun information, lol) that some shrinks prescribe it (or did, anyway) for the lethargic, over eating depressives. My best guess? Tenuate is Schedule IV, so its probably quicker and easier, not to mention I hope reduced liability issues...
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> to prescribe a relatively mild, Schedule IV upper for depressives vs the Schedule II pills which are now "medication for ADD/ADHD," blah blah blah.
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> Just a random thought. Not that taking as needed isn't an option -- it is your body, after all -- just that uppers were, once upon a time, used PRN in various forms of melancholy and straight up depression. Plus, I don't think Tenuate carries the same seizure risks and I don't think there are as many drug-drug interactions.
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> Other than that...
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> the obvious possibility of a more standard (but still "off label") upper for depression stands out. Ritalin, Focalin were (are?) usually more popular in mood disorders than the amphetamines. Provigil is used sometimes, too, but...drug-drug interactions, exorbitant costs, insurance coverage can be a huge issue.
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> Not to go all hippy on you, but mega-vitamin treatment has helped me. The protocols for "the Schizophrenias" (note the plural) are very similar to the line ups for bipolar I and II...and the ones for depression...stress...cancer...on and on.
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> I didn't get the best results until I actually followed directions (imagine that...). I was taking time release B complex tablets, also time release C for too long, that kind of thing. and now...
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> its straightforward, but requires 3-4 doses per day. each time I eat a snack or meal with sufficient..density (especially important for b-complex; the nausea one experiences with a b-100 without sufficient food to buffer it is...wow...not fun, at all...), I take:
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> 1-2 b-100 capsules; 2-3 grams vitamin C; 1 gram niacinamide (my personal favorite version of B3).
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> I have other supplements (nothing fancy) in the mix, but...that's the core of the mood-improving and anxiety-reducing and concentration-enhancing protocol. I take my mega-vitamins with standard treatment, to good effect. just a thought :-)
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> ok. other than that...would your insurance cover the emsam patches? they seem to still be ridiculou$ly over priced, but...energizing, some antioxidant effects, etc. again: random thought.
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>There's no way of getting hold of Tenuate here in Finland.
I have tried Concerta but only elevated heart rate slightly, modafinil worked great for a year and never again. I do take supps like the "brain" vitamins like the B complex and fish oil with D3 and so on.
I'm gonna wait till tomorrow morning to take my first 150mg xr pill of bupropion, it's quite possible it won't have that mood and energy boost it once had, but it's worth a try.
Don't want to try Emsam, I took Parnate years ago and the efficacy starts to decrease rather quickly on every dose increase.
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