Posted by undopaminergic on July 11, 2021, at 10:12:17
In reply to Re: PEA arrived today, posted by SLS on July 11, 2021, at 8:37:39
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> > > Does anyone else find the phrase "altered state of consciousness" to be an accurate characterization of their illness?
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> > Yes, it *is* an altered state of consciousness, but I don't use the phrase, for whatever reason. I sometimes talk about "depressive thinking" or "it's the depression speaking".
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> I would be curious to know how your doctor reacts to your using that term?
>I'm afraid the phrase is not the same after I translate it.
> I think using the term "altered state of consciousness" is valuable. Number one, it's a fact. Number two, it brings non-sufferers closer to understanding how you experience life.
>It leads me to think of psychedelic drugs. I don't think that's a good description of how depression makes me feel.
Maybe I'd say it's an "altered perspective on life/reality". You could also say it is much the opposite of what the phrase "rose-tinted glasses" means.
> It also demonstrates the autonomous nature of psychobiological brain disorders.
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> "Depression" is too generic a word to describe the phenomenology of what you and I suffer from. When describing the illnesses that we suffer from, "depression" - Major Depressive Disorder or Bipolar Depression - are disorders devoid of any attempt to categorize their etiologies.
>Yes, but I don't see how your advocated phrase addresses etiology either, unless maybe if you mean that the altered state of consciousness is the source of the disorder rather than a manifestation of it.
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