Posted by alexandra_k on February 15, 2021, at 22:19:45
In reply to Re: Who has gotten a Covid Vaccine Experiences? » alexandra_k, posted by Phillipa on February 14, 2021, at 17:26:11
> Required here to sign an online consent form which states what you are receiving is an emergency approved vaccine. It's your choice if you want to sign and receive the vaccine as it's technically still experimental without FDA approval.
I see. This is the Pfizer one -- or Moderna?
New Zealand had first doses of Pfizer arrive yesterday. We have only had a few (if any) cases of transmission in the community over the last year. So we are not receiving 'emergency approved vaccine'. We are receiving a medication that, our government assures us, has been subjected to the same scruity and standard of evidence as every other medication approved for use in new zealand.
that shows the world that we do not have local capacity to assess safety or efficacy or anything at all in medications. Pharmac (the government organisation that does that for the purpose of saying what medications are approved for use in new zealand and what medications are authorised for prescription in government hospitals etc)... Say they have already received all the information they need / desire to make a regular decision about the safety and efficacy of Pfizer vaccine that is to be administered to the new zealand people.
it shows that the new zealand government was willing to trade away the health of its people
(instead of asking for help becuase it doesn't know how to do it and it won't allow the local people with the capacity to particpate or contribute towards a solution).
> I had read the New Zealand had closed borders early on and the covid was non-existent there? Has Covid again returned to New Zealand? Phillipa
we can't prevent new zealand citizens from returning from overseas because they might become stateless. no country will allow that. what we choose to do, instead, is offer places in the quarantine facilities to tourists as much as possible. wealthy americans. you get the idea.
it is coming in the borders constantly and people test positive in quarantine -- but we have managed to contain it. occasionally someone associated with border control tests positive and they pass it to individuals they share a household with. but that has been stamped out at that level. there hasn't been any community transmission.
auckland is currently in the middle of a 3 day lockdown becuase someone who works in association with the border tested positive and so did her daughter. only... the genetic variant wasn't related to any of the known cases in the facility so... where did it come from?
second case of that.
so the USA is helping us get to saliva testing so we can get more tests done... so we will find more cases... so we will worry less about the origins of the new attacks. i guess. something like that.
the lock-down co-incided with vaccine arrival. i suspect it's a case of telling people to stay away from the psychopath front line frenzy.
the media here likes to keep people afraid because they are paid by business and when people are afraid they panic buy. if people are afraid of a lockdown we get all this guff about how people positive must stockpile toilet paper pronto. best advertising racket ever.
you are hesitant, Phillipa?? yeah...
i think maybe i would be, too. but rationally i think they most likely are safe, yeah.
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