Posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 10:14:10
In reply to Propaganda » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on January 5, 2013, at 2:15:39
> > > Lou leave Kat alone!!!! Enough is enough!!! And do not post to me!!!! Phillipa
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> > Friends,
> > It is written above that I am to leave Kat alone.
> > This forum is for support and education.
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> But you are wrong so often, that it is difficult to call what you do as being "education". I call it de-education. You attempt to accomplish this through the use of misinformation and propaganda.
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> > Support is not the same as reinforcement.
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> I guess support is in the mind of the beholder. In my mind, what you do is not supportive.
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> > Now education is important here in a great way. And to suppress any facts is what kills education and could lead one down a false path.
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> What you purport to be facts are usually falsehoods. I demonstrate this to you all of the time, yet you make no adjustments in your presentations. I don't expect you to, though. It is not my goal to change your mind about anything. My debating you is for the support and education of others. Otherwise, I really don't care what you believe. If your belief system works for you, then you are probably best left alone.
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> > To repress one member's voice leads to the loss of education to other paths.
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> No one is repressing your voice, otherwise, you would be blocked from posting here. However, free speech is not absolute. Nor is it to go unchallenged. I would prefer that you don't post here at all, but those are decisions to be made by you and Dr. Hsiung.
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> > And education that is prohibited is not education at all,
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> You won't sneak that by me. Education is in the mind of the beholder, just as it is with support. That you portray falehoods as facts prevents me from characterizing what you do as promoting education.
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> > but only an indoctrination to one person's thinking.
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> That's what propaganda is. I am greatly relieved to see that very few people are indoctrinated to your way of thinking.
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> > And when one person's thinking here is all that you can have, then you get a deception,
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> First of all, I do not believe that anyone has heretofore stated that there should be but one voice on Psycho-Babble. In reality there is more than one, otherwise we wouldn't be having this exchange. Sometimes, all that is needed to attain a noble goal is a single voice. However, it need not be exclusive to carry its message.
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> > a deception that becomes an indoctrination, an indoctrination that could lead to death.
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> I believe that your words can lead to death.
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> > My friends, be not deceived.
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> Who do you claim is doing the deceiving?
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> Lou Pilder, I am convinced that there is nothing I can say that would prompt you to desist from posting misinformed propaganda. Quite frankly, I am not interested in your motives, only in your behaviors. I care about how your posts are to be received by others, many of whom are in a state of desperation and vulnerable to the disinfomation you would use to de-educate them.
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> - Scott
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> Friends,
What you read about me here that are lies about me and lies about Jews has historical parallel that I am prevented from postinh here due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. Yet today, the research continually exposes the risks of death and life-ruining conditions/addictions caused by psychiatric drugs prescribed legally by a psychiatrist/doctor and that what I am posting here is the truth here, truth that could save your life and prevent the lives of innocent children and others being taken away by those that take these drugs promoted here.
The issues of saying that trileptal does not have the risk of agranulocytosis is not true, for even the fda admits to the fact that trileptal can cause agranulocytosis.
For me to post this warning that coul save your lif, or the life of a child given this drug, is supportive in any forum, unless that forum wants their members to think that trileptal can not cause agranulocytosis, which can be fatal.
My friens, uncovering false statements is supportive an any forum, and more so as this forum goes on and on witrh allowing defamtion t be heaoped upon me here, all allowed by Mr Hsiung that states that support takes precedence. Yet today, people could b led to believe that Trileptal does not carry the risk of aganulocytosis by the nature that members here can post what you see here about me which could give you hostil, disagreeable feelings about me for Mr Hsiung is allowing those hateful statements toward me to stand. But I say to you, take no thought for the hateful statements toward me here that could arouse ill-will toward me, but seek the truth that could lead to life. For many are here that use hate that could be a tool that could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in me as a person and what I am posting here that could save your life.
Here is a link t what the fda states in relation to Trileptal having the risk of agranulocytosis. Are they posting a lie? Am I posting a lie? Is this "misinformation"?
Lou
http;//fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm250545.htm
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