Posted by Lou Pilder on October 18, 2012, at 10:48:50
In reply to Saving lives vs being civil » Lou Pilder, posted by zazenducke on October 18, 2012, at 5:36:13
> Lou if Bob is prohibiting you from posting things that will save lives shouldn't you disobey Bob?
> Don't you have a higher authority than Bob?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I can compute the probability of you dying in relation to how many years you have left to live based on the drugs yoiu take and for how long.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you would like me to compute your chances of living as to how many years until your death, post here the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > A. The drugs you take now
> > > > > > > > > > > > > B. The amount of time you have taken each drug.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I will use advanced statistics to compute your chances of living. The death-o-meter is a general prediction so your results may vary. This is not to tell you to stop your drugs, for people kill themselves when in withdrawal. If you want to withdrawal from these drugs, I could help you, but the prohibitions here from Mr Hsiung to me prevent me from posting what is needed by me that IMHHHO could save your life.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Many of you already know that there are members here that are searching for a way out. A way out of addiction, depression, anxiety fear of death and such. It has been revealed to me how one could do that. It seems to me that members here would want to know that and go to Mr Hsiung to have him change his policy as to the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me so that I could post here what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and adddiction into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This thread was innitated by me for those that want to kno how many years they could go by taking their drugs before the drugs kill them as there are statistics that can reveal that that I can tell you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have posted here that I do not want to have you stop your drugs because in wihdrawal there are people that kill themselves. And I could help people withdrawal without killing themselves if the posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings that are allowed to stand and I have outstanding requests about, were made not outstanding. Can't you see, that when you are told that others are superior to Jews and that Jewish children can not have forgiveness from and eternal life from the God that they give service and worship to because they do not (redacted by respondent)Jesus whch Mr Hsiung allows here to stand and even allows the poster to write that the bible says such? I think that the member here have a duty to redacted by respondent) and support life. That is why thois thread is about death. I want you to live, not die. And if you do not like my attempt to save lives here then you can (redacted by respondent).
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
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> > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > Many of you may not know that I have been here a long time, even from the start. I have seen many members die here from the drugs. But now there is not much time left for some. You see, I see a great statistical anomoly. This is because IMHO there is an indoctrination that could be goin' on here to lead people to believe particular (false) ideas about Jews, and me as a Jew. And because of that IMHHHO there are going to be many people die here soon from the drugs that they take. It stands out to me so visible that I want to warn you of the hard rain that is going to fall. But as in the days of Noah, we have somerhing differnt here. One can get on the ark and the door will not be shut. For I have a way for you to have a way out of the deluge of death that I see coming here.
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
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> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > This thread is for people that want to know as to the drugs that they are taking, as to how long they could live until the drugs kill them. If I was to know the drugs taken and the amount of time I could compute statistically a probability for that. I also could use the archive for more definition. Now for those that are not interested, they could go elseware and even start a new thread with their ideas about drugs and death.
> > > > > > > > > > So let it be for the interested people here. I come to offer help in relation to warning those that may be misled into thinking that these drugs could not kill them. They kill by many ways. One is by inducing a mind-altered state to compel them to want to kill themselves. This could happen in withdrawal and someone posted here that just switching drugs could cause one to kill themselves.
> > > > > > > > > > Yet today, people here offer advise to others to switch drugs. They also offer advise to take a drug that could induce homocidal thinking and/or suicidal thinking.
> > > > > > > > > > Here is one case of death here. The FDA now admits that a lot of these drugs can increase suicidal thinking. But it is much more than that. Look at the posts here of all those that want to kill themselves. Look also at the drugs that they list taking. And look at the drugs advised by others for them to take. Is it not plainly visible what is goin' on here? Is the road of druggin' leading to being free from depression and addiction, or are the drugs causing addicton and depression? And telling others to go down that road of drugs, I ask if they know what's waiting 'round the bend.
> > > > > > > > > > I am prohibited here from posting what the scriptures that the Jews use prescribe to those that tell others to take mind-altering drugs. I am prohibited here from posting what IMHO could save your life. But I say to you, that 42,000 people or so died last year from these drugs and before that and after that, a progression that sums to a great multitude of deaths. I have seen the Great Multitude, for it has been revealed to me and I am prohibited from posting about that here by the prohibitions made to me by Mr. Hsiung. And going forward I think that the advertising and other aspects could make that number higher and going forward higher and higher. For you that are alive now, just remember those millions of deaths that could be counted of those that the drugs killed going forward and those that have already been killed going back 50 years.
> > > > > > > > > > Hear is one post of those that killed themselves that were members here.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020308/msgs/3971.html
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> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > Here is a video that I would like for interested members here to view.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > To see this video,
> > > > > > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > > > > [youtube, Psychiatric drugs-search warnings,studies & side effects]
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> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > One of the dta bases that I use to compute your chances are of your death from the drugs that you take come from that data base of the FDA. So if you wnt to contest their data, please contact them, not me. I do trust their data and so does the Mayo Clinic.
> > > > > > > > Here is a link to show your chances of your death from taking xanax.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/xanax/death
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> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > There are many ways that I use to cpmpute probabilities in relation to the chances of death from mind-altering drugs. One site from many that I use is as follows and you could look through the sit and make your own determination as to its credibility :
> > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/aboutus
> > > > > > > Then there are the posts by the members that have died here and as to how one could detrmoine if they killed hemselves. Some have emails from their survivors saying that they killed themselves. Then there are the posts by the members that could say that they had suicidal thinking after taking a drug. hen there is the report that he person died from "accidental overdose". The drug did kill thembut there is the question fo how could someone accidental overose when they were taking psychotropic drugs as prescribed at a particular dosage? ANd who is to determine if the death was accidental and how could that determination be made? Could not the person killed themselves deliberatly?
> > > > > > > Then there is the deaths by heart attack or cardiac arrest.
> > > > > > > Now in the cases where there was not heart conditions present before the drugs, then that could be evidence that the drug did the killing and there are forensic tests if the family or police and such so want. Then there is liver failure, and other organ failures that can be determined as to if the drug caused the death.
> > > > > > > Now the statistics from the FDA say what is what. And ehealthme uses those statistics and others.
> > > > > > > Here is another link;
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
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> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Now here comes some ways that I compute the chances of death. for instance, in the Risperdal stat, which is over 4%, we have the following reasoning depicted by ehealthme. But it is much more than that. Another aspect that I use is if the member is advised to swith their drug . And then does the member have the way to by-pass the psychiatrist/doctor/prescriber and take the advised drug behind the prescriber's back. Now if the psychiatrist/prescriber is doing what is right in relation to giving drugs, then could not one telling the prescriber that they want another drug lead the prescriber to think that they are a bozo for not issueing the drug in the first place? Can you not see that there is a danger here by people advising others to take a drug that is not prescribed to the other? And could not death result if the person skips their doctor's visit to get a prescription for the drug? And could not a case be made to arrest the advisor if the other member dies from the drug advised to take? Maybe that person is allergic to the advised drug and dies from one pill.
> > > > > > Here is another link
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/paxil/death
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> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > I see the door shutting here. As in the days of Noah, there was a warning from one that knew. Now I know from what I see statistically that many could die here, soon. I base this on what is plainly visible to me here. You see, when the dice are rolled over and over, for years upon years, the probability becomes accurate. You could roll the dice 65 times and snake-eyes might not come up. But if you roll the dice 10,000 times and record each number, snake-eyes could approach its true probability. (1 in 36)
> > > > > So I see a catastrophy here coming. A catastrophy of death.
> > > > > BUt let's suppose that one takes multiple drugs. Then does not the probability of death equal the sum of the probabilities?
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > So let's look at:
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/prozac/death
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/celexa/death
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/luvox/death
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lexapro/death
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> > > > Friends,
> > > > Now these:
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/zoloft/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/zyprexa/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/geodon/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lamictal/death
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/imipramine/death
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> > > Friends,
> > > Let's look at more of that I use to determine how long one could live with the knowledge of what drugs they take and for how long. There is much more that I use also. The site , ehealthme, has statisics that I use but that is only one part of what I use. The site uses a {population}. The population is those that have recorded FDA and other agencies reports from those that use the drug in queston. That is only one population that I use. There are many other populations such as {clinical trials} and more.
> > > So I am not only using the data from ehealthme, which they obtain a lot from the FDA.
> > > There is a lot of mathematics involved here. One concept that is important here is {ratio and proportion}. Another is what is known as the {standard deviation} and another known as the{mean proportional}. This is some of what is involved in the statistical analysis of data. This leads to interpretaion of {causation}.
> > > I intend to develop this here so that your undertanding of data could be understood better.
> > > Now the concept of {ratio} is ancient and what people here could be disallowed from knowing by the nature of the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung, is that he word {ratio}comes from the ancient Greek language as {logos} as their word for {reason} or, {word} which involves tha foundation of Judaism as revealed to me that is prohibited by Mr Hsiung to me to post here.
> > > Now some of you may have a door opened here to see a light penatrating here if you have been following my attempts to save lives here by and through the {Word} or {logos}.
> > > Lou
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> > Friends,
> > If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, or an interested party tryoing to make a more-informed decision as to either take mind-altering psychiatric drugs or considering a way to be free from the drug that you are taking, I am requesting that you read the following.
> > Lou
> > To see this article:
> > A. Bring up Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [Three New Studies Show Psychiatric Drugs Provide]
> > Posted by childsafety on Aug 17, 2011
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> ZZDucke,
You wrote at the top of this page that if (Mr Hsiung) is prohibiting me from posting what I think could save lives here,...].
I think that if one interested in this situation could go to the administrative board here, and post in the threads where I have outstanding requests to Mr Hsiung their concerns from their perspective, that then I could post my response to the member's concerns there.
Lou
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