Posted by g_g_g_unit on January 4, 2009, at 0:06:29
In reply to Re: a couple of Nardil questions » g_g_g_unit, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on January 3, 2009, at 23:35:51
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> First if your worried about this you should definitely buy a BP monitor so you can monitor yourself. Changes in heart rate, breathing, or headache after you' ve injested protein could be a sign of too much tyramine and a blood pressure spike. I only experienced rapid heart rate if I ate some really aged protein full of tyramine but my BP never got dangerously high. It's quite rare and almost non-existant if you follow the diet. More common is hypotension. Here are some signs that are pointed out in my Psych med book:
> severe chest pain
> severe headache
> stiff or sore neck
> enlarged pupils
> fast or slow heartbeat
> increased sensitivity of eyes to light
> increased sweating (possibly with fever or cold, clammy skin)
> nausea and vomiting
> -Many times Ive had a headache and thought maybe my BP was high so I checked on my monitor but it was never related.
> -Captopril, Clonidine etc are pills you can take for immediate relief of High BP. If you have a couple of these in your wallet im sure you wont worry or stress about getting a crisis.ah okay, i never realized that hypotension referred to low blood pressure; i thought hypotension was what occurred when you ate one of the contradicted foods. one doctor who did some tests last month said my blood pressure was unusually low (though i've never experienced dizziness, fainting spells etc.), so i hope that doesn't rule me out
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> Good question. It can be so very different for each individual. Some experience very dramatic changes being extremly positive for what you mentioned. Sometimes putting you right into a prosocial mania with the pros you mentioned. Nardil/Parnate/Marplan work 70% of the time. I experienced very rapid thought processing/multitasking/expressiveness/rapid but fluid speach on Paxil. Nardil and Parnate may work like that aswell. Ive had prosocial times with MAOI's but transient. I find them much more tolerable then ssri's,snri's etc. and are the only meds that work for me now as everything else stopped working.that's interesting re: paxil. i always assumed all SSRI's would have a flattening, anti-social effect. when you say the pro-sociability was transient, does that mean you returned to a kind of "happy medium", or did you end up sliding into lethargy?
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> > 3) how does nardil affect cognition? also, is the fatigue i often see reported dose-dependent?
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> When I was on Nardil I had very good periods of cognition aswell as the opposite. It depended how structured my life was at any given point and different augmentors I tried.do you mind telling me which augmentors you tried? or at least which was the optimum?
Dosing time and amount made a difference too. Alot of the time my eyes looked drugged and dopey, on Parnate I dont look drugged or dopey at all. I never felt a difference in my energy level or sleeping patern on Nardil but many do. The fatigue I imagine would be dose dependant but 30mgs a day for you might make you tired while it takes 90mgs a day for someone else. Most side effects like hypotension, dizzyness, heavy limbs, tiredness, jitteryness etc. dissapear over the first few weeks as your body ajusts. Remember it can be different for different people. Sometimes its the best thing in the world and sometime horrible and can't be tolerated.
> Hope that helps
> ParnateStarted2008
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> >thanks again for taking the time to respond
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