Posted by yxibow on January 28, 2007, at 0:46:02
In reply to Re: Ketamine for depression.......any experiences?, posted by nolegirl23 on January 27, 2007, at 20:57:29
> > > > >Why are we discussing the risks of illicit Ketamine use by snorting it
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> > > > Probably because it has been found an effective treatment for depression, rovers95 has illicit access to it and is curious.
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> > > > >The risks first of all are a deviated septum from hucking freebase up your nose.
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> > > > Unlikely with ketamine at low doses.
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> > > > > And yes, a "k-hole" at some point could happen, it isn't predictable, you're not a cat or a horse, a child, or a special need patient
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> > > > Treatment isn't predictable for animals and children either. People still get stuck in K-holes when ketamine is used in medicine. I saw a programme a while ago where a guy was given ketamine for pain after breaking his leg as an alternative to morphine and he started having and out-of-body experience. The doctors calmed him with midazolam.
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> > > > >I can't believe I'm actually typing this.
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> > > > That's alright. You may be having a dissociative reaction. Try to stay calm, take deep breaths and back away from the computer.
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> > > > >being monitored by an anesthesiologist IN SURGERY
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> > > > Rovers95 isn't using anaesthetic doses of ketamine.
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> > > > >to prevent you from FORGETTING WHO YOU ARE with a dissociative substance.
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> > > > That may be part of the therapeutic action of dissociatives - temporarily being lifted out of ego games and returning to everyday life with fresh eyes. You seem to find the idea of breaking rules and transcending ego threatening yxibow but others may not. It is a good idea to have a 'sitter' to supervise while taking dissociative drugs like ketamine though.
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> > > > >While we're at it, why not discuss the use of Dextromethorphan or PCP for depression. Um... no I don't think so.
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> > > > Why on Earth not yxibow? We already have discussions on buprenorphine, Adderall, codeine, and Ritalin in the treatment of depression. I think it would be very interesting to hear from people who have taken PCP and DXM (I have a bottle in my cupboard for that very purpose).
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> > > > Q
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> > > Hey, while were on the topic, why not mention cocaine??
> > > I NEVER felt depressed when I was flying on the coke plane.
> > > Till the next day, that is...
> > > (BTW, I am being sarcastic)
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> > You are being sarcastic and we shelved this topic if you did not read the posts before. So I would appreciate some decorum. But post to your hearts content about some really awful alkaloid if you wish, its your (mostly free) speech.
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> You are right, my sarcasm is something I'm working on in therapy. It's my defense mechanism.
> Sorry everybody.
> I was out of line.It's okay, I understand. Don't worry. I wasn't trying to stifle any useful information in this topic, it just got to be a contention that you weren't a party to. I hope you can get the most out of therapy.
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