Posted by AmyH on December 6, 2003, at 12:23:13
In reply to Re: Weather Control, posted by Neil Slade on December 6, 2003, at 10:53:34
> Even if it were just a million people listening and focusing on "rain rain today" that would still be a pretty impressive number, and I doubt that any government project ever had anywhere near that number of people agreeing on anything whatsoever.That's impressive. Premiere Radio Networks also syndicates the Rush Limbaugh show, which only attracts 20 million listeners all week. Premiere's Web site does not seem to include audience information except that they say Coast to Coast is a night program with daytime ratings. It seems if the show had more than five times the audience (20 million individual listeners five nights a week) as Premiere's most popular daytime show, they would say that instead.
It seems unlikely that on any given night, one in 11 US adults would listen to the same radio show. It seems unlikely that many more than one in 11 US adults would be up all night at all, much less listening to the radio. Arbitron might be a better source for audience estimates, though, since in the radio industry audience ratings are related to revenue. Premiere has a vested interest in representing a strong audience because it would increase revenue. Most people I know have heard of Rush Limbaugh, but few have heard of Art Bell, or have listened to Coast to Coast AM.
I hope this isn't too tedious, but I took some statistics courses in college, and these things fascinate me.
Even if a program claimed an average 15 minute audience of 1 million people, standard rating methods identify listeners within earshot of the spoken word of that radio station. How do you know everyone who could hear the radio was interested, or agreed to participate in what you were doing? It seems if you claim to have enlisted 20 million people in an experiment and after a quick check the number turns out to be less than a million, we need to consider that when we assess the provenance of your claims. If a researcher claims estimated radio listeners as active participants, that also seems relevant to the provenance of experimental findings. You probably agree that truly intellectual scientific thinkers make efforts to consider the provenance of information.
The same Clear Channel radio stations were somewhat successful earlier this year in enlisting reasonably large numbers of people to support pro-war rallies in several cities. In that case, we know how many people participated because they showed up at rallies. Estimates nationwide counted about 20,000 people at the Clear Channel funded war rallies. New York Times reported that Clear Channel was the only active organizer of pro-war demonstrations nationwide. I guess that could be considered a military effort since the military (or more precisely an intelligence agency) hired a public relations firm to work with Clear Channel to organize the demonstrations. During your experiments, did anyone consider using group mind control to get Saddam Hussein? Do you still accept invitations to appear on Clear Channel programs?
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