Posted by Caleb462 on June 10, 2003, at 0:21:39
In reply to Re: Opiates and benzo's, duloxetine and pregabalin, posted by Boba Fat on June 9, 2003, at 21:26:03
> Hi caleb thanks for the advice. I have been on all the SSRI's and TCA wise I have tried clomipramine and dothiepin. None of them have helped so I don't use them any more. Besides I am on a restricted e-number diet so a lot of these drugs are no good for me (dothiepin is chock full of colours, preservatives and wheat starch). I actually use Klonopin, I didn't realise there were less chance of tolerance with this drug compared to others besides I try to force myself not to take it every day.
There is nothing wrong with taking Klonopin everyday. You WILL become physically dependant, that's inevitable - and if one day you decide to come off, you will have to withdrawl slowly and cautiously. Tolerance will develop to the sedating effects of Klonopin, however, most people find that the relief from anxiety stays the same, even after years of use. The same could be said for all benzos, but Klonopin has the advantage of a longer half-life, making it a smoother drug and less prone to be abused (as opposed to say, Xanax). If you trust your self to find the right dose, and keep it there, using Klonopin everday is a fine strategy. Of course, your doctor has to approve of this as well.
>The codeine, klonopin and Nytol (the same as US benadryl) I use contains none of the bad additives which is why I take them.
I see.. well again, taking an anti-histamine everyday should pose no problem. And I've already discussed Klonopin. Codeine, of course, could cause some problems. I know how it is with opiates/opiods... I love em. But I've mostly stopped using them, due to lack of availability for one, but also because I know it is just a downward spiral of tolerance, addiction, withdrawl, etc.
>I want to try a new AD but I have to be careful because a lot of my problems are caused by artificial additives, preservatives and binding ingredients. I don't know what I could take. I like the thought of taking wellbutrin but it is rarely used as an AD in the UK. If I could get it I would combine it with occasional antihistamine and Klonopin use.
That sounds like a fine plan to me!
>I am also looking forward to the arrival of Duloxetine and Pregabalin (assuming I can take them). Does anybody know when these drugs might be actually available?Nope, sorry.
> I find myself taking codeine, klonopin and or Nytol most days and frankly I am a little worried but conventional AD treatment is yet to work for me.
You might also wanna consider supplementing some vitamins/minerals, etc. Magnesium can be sedating at times, and is good for sleep - I haven't found it terribly effective for anxiety, but many others have. The B vitamins are considered good for depression/anxiety issues. And omega-3 fatty acids in the form of fish oil might help as well. Niacinamide binds to the same receptors that benzodiazepines do, you might wanna give it a try. There's a ton of threads on this board about vitamin/mineral/herb supplementation, just do a search and you'll find em, well some of em atleast - the recent ones may not show up.
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