Posted by Ron Hill on June 4, 2001, at 10:17:26
In reply to Re: TRUEHOPE: $ cost comparison vs other brands, posted by AMenz on June 2, 2001, at 18:02:54
Amez,
It seems to me that there are two issues being raised in this thread: 1) Efficacy of Pig Pills; 2) Cost of Pig Pills. With respect to the later, I think the valid point being made by other posters such as stjames and Truth is hard to find, is that many good chelated multi-vitamin/multi-mineral products are available on the market FOR A LOT LESS MONEY. The inordinately high price of the Pig Pills leads me to question the altruistic motivations portrayed by Pig Pill Company spokespersons.
With regard to efficacy, IMHO various supplements, in conjunction with my meds, are beneficial for treatment of my BP II condition. As one example of the several supplements I take, a good chelated magnesium supplement taken just prior to bedtime improves my sleep quality. However, I personally am not willing to pay $140 per month for Pig Pills when I can buy the same quality of products elsewhere for a fraction of the cost.
That's my two cents worth on this topic. This and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee most anywhere in the US. (I'm not talking Starbucks and other "designer" coffees. I'm talking straight out of the pot, restaurant coffee.)
-- Ron
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> I am willing to try it.
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> After all the costs of treatment at present (ineffective I might add) is about $12,000 a year. If it doesn't work you lost 150 dollars but have the satisfaction of leaving no stone unturned.
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> When you are treatment resistant, you must seek answers. This doesn't seem totally off the wall and at least is being studied.
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> I tried the fish oil which made me extremely hyper almost hypomanic at smaller doses than Stoll administered to his group. I don't regret it, even if it did not work out.
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> > > NOTE: I AM NOT RECOMMENDING TAKING THIS MUCH "STUFF". PARTICULARYLY SOME MINERAL DOSES IN HIGH LEVELS HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO CAUSE PROBLEMS, AS WELL AS VITAMIN A IN DOSES THIS HIGH
> > > FURTHERMORE, IF ONE'S LIVER OR KIDNEY FUNCTION IS IMPARIED, HIGH DOSES MAY (I UNDERSTAND) CAUSE PROBLEMS.
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> > James here....
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> > Good points ! Vitamin A is TOXIC in a high enough dose. Given that TRUE HOPE has such high levels, what happens when you also eat food, which is full of vits and mins ? Possible toxic levels, thats what. The minerals and Vit A are of concern as they can be toxic if you take too much. Doing some quick math, if you take the suggested dose of TRUE HOPE and eat there is a good chance you will be at a dangerous level for vit A and some mins. If you are a vegan, even more so.
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> > Please keep posting Deb_s, in the several years I have been here several have stopped meds and started whatever alternative treatment and we tend to never hear from them again. I can remember one who came back to report that they did not do well and were back on meds. Never heard from the others, despite how convinced they were, so I suspect they did not do well or they would of told us so.
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> > Keep in mind mental illness is measured in montths and years, given its changable nature, so the true test is not a day or a week or a month of doing well.
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> > James
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