Posted by SLS on October 25, 2000, at 19:34:33
In reply to Re: SLS...more psychiatry vs jensen, posted by JohnL on October 25, 2000, at 5:26:17
> Sorry Scott. I was just trying to be helpful.
Me too.
> The last thing I wanted to do was stir up some discord. That's not my purpose here. I don't see this board as a place for that.
John, this is exactly the place for that.
If you are so inclined to continue to tell people that it is senseless to continue an antidepressant beyond two weeks if they have felt nothing, I will be inclined to disagree with you. That will probably entail more than just my saying "I disagree."
You don't have to tell me a million times. I understood it the first time. 3-4 day trials to find the "best match".
You have taken on a huge responsibility on Psycho-Babble. People have come to look at you as the expert. You talk like you are one. You know a lot of stuff. This is not unexpected for someone who has decided to make a project of giving psychiatric advice. You have some given excellent advice and have helped a lot of people. However, as much as you think you know, you know very little. I know very little. We both demonstrate that on a regular basis. Please remember that.
I would like to know which three medical schools have added Dr. Jensen's methods to their list of treatment modalities discussed. I want to know how many more times he has dissembled. Of course, even if he is a charlatan, that still doesn't make the methods he discusses in his book invalid. The truth is, they might be. But the truth is also that a Dr. Greenens has never been employed at the Menninger Clinic. That means that the students he refers to were not students at the Menninger Clinic. The quote used on Jensen's webpage was a purposeful deception. I can't help but to call his character and motives into question. It leaves me skeptical that Jensen understands more about the brain than does the rest of the world, which is exactly what he contends with his explanations of how drugs work and what specific "circuits" in the brain are not functioning properly. They are preposterously simplistic at best (my opinion).
It is interesting that Dr. Jensen's website is down at the moment. I wanted to provide here the URLs to those pages in which he explains the "facts" about the brain.
I believe you mentioned one medical school in particular in a post many months ago. Which one was it?
We both know that there are a few instances where someone will respond quickly to an antidepressant. This is not the norm. Of course, maybe it would be if we were to give 3-4 day trials of 10 drugs over the course of a month. I still think it is a pretty cool idea. About how many people on Psycho-Babble do you know of who have had success using this specific protocol? That's about the only thing I haven't heard yet.
"I've seen Serzone go both ways. Some people have had a rough time early on, stuck it out, and saw dramatic improvement later. Usually around 6 weeks or so. The one thing that always seemed to linger though was some slight tiredness and slight dizziness. But that's common with a lot of drugs, not just Serzone"
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20001012/msgs/46950.html
By the way, why should someone give Serzone six weeks?
- Scott
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