Posted by michael on July 24, 2000, at 11:41:58
In reply to nonRx Adderall alternative? ephedrin/MaHuang safe?, posted by S.D. on July 22, 2000, at 20:43:08
I haven't tried any of the Rx items you mentioned, but I believe ephedrine is considered a stimulant....
I've used ephedrine in the past, and found it very helpful for energy/concentration/motivation - being productive & functional, generally. From what I understand, however, it is not a good long-term option. If I understand correctly, what ephedrine does is release stored norepinephrine, and eventually the stores are depleted.... That's probably a bit over-simplified... can anyone else elaborate?
As for indicating response... I recently tried reboxetine (very short trial), and just wanted to mention that I found it similar to the way ephedrine felt. I found ephedrine to be a bit "edgier", but also more energizing. I quit rebox because I didn't like it. For me, it had a bit of a fluish/hangover feeling, more than the "edgy"/energizing feel I got from the ephedrine. However, as I said, my rebox trial was very short - the fluish thing may have gone away, and it also may have become more energizing with time...
One other note - both noticably/significantly increased a desire for nicotine/cigarettes (a friend has told me the he encounters the same increased craving for chewing tabacco from ephedrine), obviously not a good thing.
As for non-Rx option (haven't tried any Rx stims), I'm with JohnL., and have gone back to adrafinil. Don't really notice any "stimulant" effect or feelilng - just lack of fatigue/anergia. It's the best non-Rx option I've found so far for that. (effects like ephedrine, but you don't "feel" or notice it)
> Is there a non-Rx substance similar to Adderall or Dexedrine, or that would predict efficacy of these? Is ephedrine or ma huang safe or effective to use chronically as a stimulant? Especially to get my @ss out of bed initially. It has a short dosing schedule so I think it makes me crash like Ritalin a bit if I don't keep taking some during the day (or, eventually, even if I do). Basically I've got what KarenB has described when it comes to fatigue and anergia (low energy). I should have stuck it out with my ADD doc back in '97, but I quit. Current doc isn't keen on stims.
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> I guess Adderall are amphetamine salts and dexedrine is dextroamphetimine - is this same/similar to "speed", methamphetamine or "chrystal meth" street drugs? If these are the "Non-Rx" alternatives, I'll have to take a pass ;-). (But I could probably get them pretty easily in my general area I'm sorry to say).
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> peace and health,
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> S.D.
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