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Posted by bulldog2 on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:12
In reply to Pet therapy is good for us/Better than meds, posted by stargazer2 on June 5, 2010, at 18:41:28
> We need a board just for dog stories, not social, but DOGS...they're a topic of their own.
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> What my dogs could tell about my days spent at home over the past 6 years (my Una is going to be 7 this Dec), her eye contact says it all. She is a therapy dog and is wise beyond her genus, more intelligent than most people I know and listens to every word I say or don't say.Yes I would love a dog board. I noticed you said for dog stories and not social. Could you elaborate on what you mean not social.
Dogs have some marvelous and unusual powers of intuition and at times seems like esp. But probably just very developed senses that let them perceive things we cannot do.
Posted by bulldog2 on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:12
In reply to Re: Different types of Boredom, posted by Phillipa on June 5, 2010, at 21:33:59
> Everyone of you are right. All are factors of boredom. If I were occupied I wouldn't see imperfections hence no surgery. What I need to do is accept that I can't lift 50lbs anymore part of job description. I used to love keeping patients alive ie: dopamine drip keep the blood pressure up based on forumula for KG's. Pumping on chests for CPR. I really thrived on this. Hard to have to give up as getting to old. Phillipa
I also like you lost my career. In a sense we do define ourselves with our work. But like a death we have to move on and find a new purpose. Yes we are getting old and I know I can't do the same things. Two bad hips and a bad back. But I find purpose in loving and taking care of my dogs. I play with them and see their happiness when they see me and that makes my heart feel full. I came downstairs this morning and my bullmastiff charged me in joy. She was so happy to see me and that made me feel good.
Posted by chujoe on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:12
In reply to Re: Different types of Boredom, posted by bulldog2 on June 6, 2010, at 10:30:40
>> I came downstairs this morning and my bullmastiff charged me in joy. <<
Makes me glad I have Jack Russell Terriers!
Posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:13
In reply to Re: Pet therapy is good for us/Better than meds, posted by manic 666 on June 6, 2010, at 9:10:07
This board is a place for mutual support. Why criticize another poster? Direct comments towards a particular post rather than the author. As for being a 'downer', that is subjective. One can choose to skip posts, esp. if the one is not the originator of the thread.
respectfully,
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Posted by manic 666 on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:13
In reply to Re: types of boredom » manic 666, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 13:36:15
to be honest floatingbridge// for someone to complain about being bored on a mental health forum is behond belief//that is a luxury not many mentally unwell people have// i dont think there is many times i have woken in the night covered in sweat an shakeing like a rattle snake //an said to myself im bored?????????as for the attack ,im only repeating what phillipa has written herself in posts//look through them yourself//im not attacking anyone //im trying to kick start phillipa on the road to good health //she is, an its plain to see unhappy//so please look deeper in a post before reaching for the keyboard
Posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:13
In reply to Re: types of boredom, posted by manic 666 on June 6, 2010, at 14:24:22
> to be honest floatingbridge// for someone to complain about being bored on a mental health forum is behond belief//that is a luxury not many mentally unwell people have
This isn't a competition. Who'd want the prize?
// i dont think there is many times i have woken in the night covered in sweat an shakeing like a rattle snake //an said to myself im bored?????????as for the attack ,im only repeating what phillipa has written herself in posts//look through them yourself//im not attacking anyone //im trying to kick start phillipa on the road to good health //she is, an its plain to see unhappy//
Yes, most of us here are unhappy in our own ways, and we cope in our own ways.
//so please look deeper in a post before reaching for the keyboardFor that seed of helpfulness? I saw it.
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Posted by manic 666 on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:13
In reply to Re: types of boredom » manic 666, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 14:49:00
you lost me on the last post //i am thick an am a tad slow witted //but i think i see double meanings //an i only do straight talk// its my only way of comunication if you find it offencive im sorry//but i feel the same about sitting on my *rs* when things need saying
Posted by bulldog2 on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:13
In reply to Re: types of boredom, posted by manic 666 on June 6, 2010, at 14:24:22
> to be honest floatingbridge// for someone to complain about being bored on a mental health forum is behond belief//that is a luxury not many mentally unwell people have// i dont think there is many times i have woken in the night covered in sweat an shakeing like a rattle snake //an said to myself im bored?????????as for the attack ,im only repeating what phillipa has written herself in posts//look through them yourself//im not attacking anyone //im trying to kick start phillipa on the road to good health //she is, an its plain to see unhappy//so please look deeper in a post before reaching for the keyboard
I have to back manic on this one floating and please do not take as a criticism. Floating you have taken positive steps to better your situation. So you understand that when one has a problem you have to make changes. If you continue to repeat your behaviors than that is the definition of insanity.
Manic and I have been around this board for many years and get to see what people do or don't do.To be honest I have been guilty of this. Doing nothing. I have finally begun taking meds and trying to stick with them. I have had some good results and had some poop outs. Than move on and try another. So I guess I am pro med.What manic is saying is if you go back for years and read her posts you will see that nothing has changed.It's as if time has frozen. We only get so much time and than it runs out. Same drugs, rides her bike every night and same comments. Continously writes post about horrible drug side effects. I am aware of drug side effect as I read them. So recently she wrote a post about clomipramine and some person had horrible side effects. At least I'm taking a chance. Maybe I'll get side effects but maybe I'll come out of my depression and feel better. Let's be honest Floating is that supportive? Writing posts to scare people. Every time someone is on pamelor she writes a post about she was on 10 mg for one night and was plastered to her bed all day. Seriously she has written that time after time. The impression I get is her life is really bad and she doesn't want to see other people succeed.
Phillip needs more than support as she needs the truth. It's time to make some changes. I know meds have sides. But if you're lucky sometimes you take a med and wake up feeling better. Life has side effects as you get old and die. So take a med and take a chance. In the last year I've tried a couple meds and had some really good days. If people care about her it's time to tell her the truth. She says she scared she's scared of meds. I question why has she hung around a med board for almost 10 years. She posts on almost every thread. Instead of watching other people get better become one of those getting better.
Floating I know you are a compassionate person and only mean the best for all here. But manic has hit the nail on the head in this case. I think he is trying to shake Phillipe up with the hard truth. Manic I think I need to listen to you myself and do a little more living. Thank you.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:14
In reply to Re: types of boredom, posted by bulldog2 on June 6, 2010, at 15:20:02
Hi Bulldog,
No criticism taken. My point to maniac and anyone else is that if one poster is tired of another poster, just leave it alone.
I know all three of you have known each other for years. If you care about Phillipa or any other poster, there might be better ways to communicate concern. Teasing and sarcasm, say, for example about cosmetic surgery can really hurt more than help. As a woman, I can be sensitive about my appearance. Because of my personal history, teasing and rough play can trigger shame. Everyone is different. But I can't assume my sarcasm or black humor (which I'm very fond of) is always appreciated.
And tolerance. Seems you and maniac are really pretty confident in taking care of your med needs. Maybe that confidence has been hard won for you. Maybe for maniac, too. I think it' wonderful and inspirational--really. Why let other people's med anxieties get in your way? Seems folks here run the gamut from med-phobic to Gonzo psychedelic.
I anticipate reactions since I've been here over a year. Somebody almost always tells me I'm bipolar. Or I need a special bloodtest. Jeez, my own brother wants me to replace my teeth, drink reverse osmosis water (and shower in it) and that I'm emasculating my son because there is floride in his water. I wanted to post about some probably dumb neurotransmitter test my physiatrist ordered, but thought better of it.
Oh well, I'm rambling here. Bottom line: I've been enjoyong philipa's tjread, and I felt the posts were getting a little rough.
Posted by Phillipa on June 6, 2010, at 20:39:00
In reply to Re: types of boredom » bulldog2, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:14
FB don't feel dumb. Guess what today a lady who works in Costco has been out on medical leave for quite a few months. This time hysterectomy and having problems with it said that in the ICU they hooked her brain up to something she didn't know what and it showed her serotonin was low. And they don't want her on hormones. I thought neurotransmitters couldn't be tested? I said I thought most serotonin in gut she said no the doc tested them in her brain?????? I'm amazed. You will never know what you might learn by talking to others. Phillipa ps how you read this
Posted by Dinah on June 6, 2010, at 20:49:05
In reply to Re: Boredom what is it?, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:08
> When I am really depressed, I can't connect with dogs. Terrifying, really.
Thank heavens I've always been able to connect to my dogs. Even when the rest of the world seems distant and unreal.
Posted by Phillipa on June 6, 2010, at 21:34:36
In reply to Re: Boredom what is it?, posted by Dinah on June 6, 2010, at 20:49:05
I still remember you little white one. Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 6, 2010, at 22:34:56
In reply to Re: types of boredom, posted by manic 666 on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:13
> you carnt keep harping on to nurseing ... you have kids an grandkids you have nothing to do with... you have no close friends an neighbours ... you an your husband should be out an about all the time//not stareing in the mirror an thinking about cosmetic surgery cos you getting old ... you posts are all downers nothing positive ... you have not moved in any direction good or bad in years
> for someone to complain about being bored on a mental health forum is behond belief ... as for the attack ,im only repeating what phillipa has written herself in posts ... im trying to kick start phillipa on the road to good health
Keeping in mind that the idea here is not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, could you please rephrase the above?
But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person, and I'm sorry if this hurts you.
It's up to you to decide whom you interact with. Sometimes interacting with others may be frustrating, staying civil may be a challenge, and new skills may be required. If you're open to developing new skills (I know that may not be why you came in the first place), that's another way in which you might be able to be supported by other posters.
Phillipa, I'm also sorry if you felt hurt.
More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express oneself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil. Thanks.
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Does anybody find it hard when someone you care about doesn't do what you think would make things better?
Bob
Posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 22:44:02
In reply to Re: types of boredom, posted by manic 666 on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:13
> you lost me on the last post //i am thick an am a tad slow witted //but i think i see double meanings //an i only do straight talk// its my only way of comunication if you find it offencive im sorry//but i feel the same about sitting on my *rs* when things need saying
Hey, maniac, I'm not the brightest crayon in the box either, but I do know some of your posts make me laugh out loud.
Peace & good days to you,
fb
Posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 22:47:55
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » manic 666, posted by Dr. Bob on June 6, 2010, at 22:34:56
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> Does anybody find it hard when someone you care about doesn't do what you think would make things better?
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> BobYes. Absolutely. Especially when it's myself!
:)
Posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 22:50:21
In reply to Re: Boredom what is it?, posted by Dinah on June 6, 2010, at 20:49:05
> > When I am really depressed, I can't connect with dogs. Terrifying, really.
>
> Thank heavens I've always been able to connect to my dogs. Even when the rest of the world seems distant and unreal.
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>Yes, that must be a comfort. I have envied and admired those who can rely on that connection.
Posted by stargazer2 on June 6, 2010, at 22:56:28
In reply to Re: Pet therapy is good for us/Better than meds, posted by manic 666 on June 6, 2010, at 19:43:12
Dr Bob obviously missed your proposed surgical procedure you mentioned in your earlier post...Uh oh, he can't monitor everything going on with us crazies...
Posted by Phillipa on June 6, 2010, at 23:40:58
In reply to Re: Pet therapy is good for us/Manic, posted by stargazer2 on June 6, 2010, at 22:56:28
Stargazer that is kind of funny!!!! Love Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on June 7, 2010, at 10:13:58
In reply to Re: Boredom what is it? » Dinah, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 22:50:21
I'm sorry you can't.
I know what it is to not be able to feel music, and not be able to have my emotions touched by movies or TV or even real life. It s*cks.
But now you're thinking of getting a new dog? A lab? Such happy dogs. A puppy or an adult? There are advantages each way.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 7, 2010, at 14:48:14
In reply to Re: Boredom what is it? » floatingbridge, posted by Dinah on June 7, 2010, at 10:13:58
A puppy. My son & husband would like one very much. And yes, a lab--happy &lively (like breaking a bronco!). Otherwise, I'd lean towards an older, more worldly gal.
My husband says that to a lab, life is one big party, and everyone is invited :). Watching our old lab hit the waves or any body of water gave me such pleasure. When her arthritis was bad toward the end of her life, she'd hobble to the water, tail wagging, and plunge in. We'd have to limit her swim time because she'd give the water her all, then be
unable to get off the couch for the remainder of the day.For myself, when depression is bad, I can't listen to music or see films because they trigger me (among other things).
I've been on a samurai movie kick :)
Posted by stargazer2 on June 10, 2010, at 23:40:58
In reply to dogs » Dinah, posted by floatingbridge on June 7, 2010, at 14:48:14
I have 2 big yellow labs, my girl Una (85 lbs) who is all love and wiggles and tiny, little kisses if you plead gently with her...and my big guy, Tommy, who was rescued about 3 years ago and is a big hulk (105#) of a guy, all slobber and wet, french kisses and an insaitable appetite. He has put away a loaf of bread and an entire carrot cake that I left on the counter, which you can never do, as his main job is to watch and see where food items may be unattended.
Labs are the best, have unconditional love to give and are good therapy for me in that they can push me to take them out and it gives me a purpose to have to care for them when I'm not feeling up to doing much of anything.
I don't know where you live but we have a Lab rescue group here in CT that I work with from time to time. MOst of the labs come from the South and there are tons of labs everywhere that need homes due to the economy, sad commentary today.
Gotta love those labs!!!
Posted by floatingbridge on June 11, 2010, at 1:17:50
In reply to Re: dogs/FB/Labs, posted by stargazer2 on June 10, 2010, at 23:40:58
I've heard that about labs from the southern states. A friend recently adopted a gorgeous black lab pup from a rescue on the west coast.
Mabel was yellow, though tending more toward fox red. Bless her, the sweetest, most obedient soul except around food. During a supper party at our house, Mabel tried to down an entire wheel of brie.
I still remember her gagging, the looks on our guests' faces incredulous (they were yet unacquainted with life's more nitty gritty aspects that dogs expose us to; and yes, it was difficult to say, by the time we saw her, which direction the cheese was going, in or out), and my husband and I jumping up to rescue Mabel from the very pricey lump of french cheese lodging in her throat. Unabashed, she made a graceful social recovery, wagging her tail, and begging for seconds.
I love it.
Posted by Phillipa on June 11, 2010, at 13:11:30
In reply to Re: types of boredom » bulldog2, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2010, at 16:10:18
Well just home and on the computer. Was at my Daughter's with Husband visiting the baby and them now home. I could go back to school as my license is just inactive. I could also volunteer back on a psych floor. So I educate myself and read and respond to posts, offere support when needed, Board is for mutual support and that is my goal. As for meds what I am on is sufficient. Just got done telling my Daughter who manages a store that she does not need any meds as she is quite high functioning. I love riding my bike as I stop to chat with lots of folks and learn new things daily. I would like besides staying up til 3am at night working on ebay to also have some rec time and that is fun time on facebook. Family and friends there. As floating bridge said if you don't wish to don't read my posts and this is my thread. I now know I'm not clinically depressed. Just anxious. I have joined the billions of women and men who wish to enhance their appearances and saved for many years just for this. Sure meds have side effects and I've tried the gambut myself and if I had a side effect as many others here I post it. I'm sure Dr. Bob does not have a problem with this. Phillipa ps my pups are precious
Posted by Maxime on June 11, 2010, at 13:28:07
In reply to Boredom what is it?, posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2010, at 12:33:01
There are so many things that you can do so that you aren't bored. Have you ever thought of volunteering at a hospital? That would be a great idea. Volunteering in general is really important even if it's only a couple of days a week. I am not working right now and if I wasn't volunteer I would be so bored and depressed. You need a chance to get out of your own head. There are also activities you can do in the summer: walk, go for ice-cream, cycle etc. Join a book club! The possibilities are endless. I know you spend a lot of time online, you need to get out more so that you feel more like part of society.
Posted by Phillipa on June 11, 2010, at 13:28:08
In reply to Re: Boredom what is it? » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on June 7, 2010, at 15:42:43
Maxie I'm out daily, cycling my six miles even in the rain lots of neighbors stop to talk with. When in the stores lots of people I talk with also. On the computer as ebay is our sole income. Phillipa
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