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Posted by Sarah T. on October 8, 2005, at 21:07:17
In reply to Re: Hey, Jerrympls, yoo-hoo » jerrympls, posted by gardenergirl on October 8, 2005, at 17:38:01
Hi Jerry and GG,
GG, that's a good question. . . What does help you, Jerry?
What about your music? Are you playing any music these days?
When you stay up late at night to watch TV, what do you like to watch? Comedy? Old movies?
What kind of dog do you have? Have you ever seen the movie "BEST IN SHOW" ?
Is there anything that pulls you out of your depression? Has there been a time in recent years when you were relatively happy?
Posted by justyourlaugh on October 9, 2005, at 0:46:07
In reply to Hey, Jerrympls, yoo-hoo, posted by Sarah T. on October 8, 2005, at 1:14:08
hi sarah...
i think most pdoc difine depression as a ssri depletion in the brain..?
i am thinking jerry is expressing him(her)self in an effictive way..is writting not an art?
jerry needs to be heard and understood..not judged...not repremanded..and not passed the guilt basket...
people with coping skills..great joys..no hate..have mental illness too...
Posted by Sarah T. on October 9, 2005, at 2:35:59
In reply to Re: Hey, Jerrympls, yoo-hoo » Sarah T., posted by justyourlaugh on October 9, 2005, at 0:46:07
Hello jyl.
No, most pdocs do NOT define depression as ssri depletion in the brain. SSRI is an acronym for a class of drugs known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. Depression is NOT depletion of ssri's in the brain.
As for your other comments, they also appear to reflect confusion as well as misreading and misunderstanding of me and my posts.
Posted by justyourlaugh on October 9, 2005, at 10:19:59
In reply to Re: Hey, Jerrympls, yoo-hoo » justyourlaugh, posted by Sarah T. on October 9, 2005, at 2:35:59
sorry the word i was looking for is serotonin..
not ssri..silly me..
yes, perhaps i missunderstood your post.
i hope jerry heard you loud and clear..
j
Posted by wildcard on October 9, 2005, at 12:37:24
In reply to Re: Hey, Jerrympls, yoo-hoo » Sarah T., posted by justyourlaugh on October 9, 2005, at 0:46:07
>i am thinking jerry is expressing him(her)self in an effictive way..is writting not an art?
I agree that it is both ways, as long as no one feels chastised.
>jerry needs to be heard and understood..not judged...not repremanded..and not passed the guilt basket...
Well said!
>jerry needs to be heard and understoodI feel that jerry was seeking help/support. The way your comments *could* have been taken may have led jerry to feel unsupported by the manner in which the situation was approached. He expressed how he felt very *adamantly*
>people with coping skills..great joys..no hate..have mental illness too...
Very true!
Posted by TexasChic on October 9, 2005, at 17:09:45
In reply to Re: I really want to end my life, posted by TexasChic on October 8, 2005, at 8:14:15
I feel really bad because I was drunk and mixed you up with someone else. Expecially on such a serious subject. I hope you don't think I was taking you lightly, because I wasn't. I know what it feels like to be in the depths of depression... only too well.
Posted by Phillipa on October 9, 2005, at 18:07:13
In reply to sarah...error, posted by justyourlaugh on October 9, 2005, at 10:19:59
Hi jyl, glad to see you posting again. And your mistake is made by many. I always pictured SSRI's the serotonin like little space ships landing in the synapse and staying longer than usual and then exiting the site. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by lynn970 on October 10, 2005, at 6:09:09
In reply to I really want to end my life, posted by jerrympls on October 7, 2005, at 9:37:11
I have been thinking about you and praying for you. Are you feeling better?
(((jerrympls)))
Posted by jerrympls on October 13, 2005, at 6:50:20
In reply to Re: How are you feeling? » jerrympls, posted by lynn970 on October 10, 2005, at 6:09:09
> I have been thinking about you and praying for you. Are you feeling better?
>
> (((jerrympls)))HI...slightly better. it's still v ery hard.
Posted by Sarah T. on October 13, 2005, at 13:24:09
In reply to Re: How are you feeling? » lynn970, posted by jerrympls on October 13, 2005, at 6:50:20
Hi Jerry,
It's good to see you. I was wondering what meds you're on (or not on)? If you're on meds, do you think they might be aggravating your depression? I do remember seeing your name on some threads about stimulants. Stimulants can be very helpful, but after a while, they, too, can cause depression, especially when they wear off. I know this post probably belongs over on the med board, but this is where I've seen you lately, so I'm posting here.Sarah
Posted by lynn970 on October 13, 2005, at 16:13:14
In reply to Re: How are you feeling? » lynn970, posted by jerrympls on October 13, 2005, at 6:50:20
I am so glad to hear from you. I was very concerned. I have been thinking about you.
((((jerrympls)))))
Posted by jerrympls on October 14, 2005, at 21:56:03
In reply to Re: How are you feeling? » jerrympls, posted by Sarah T. on October 13, 2005, at 13:24:09
> Hi Jerry,
> It's good to see you. I was wondering what meds you're on (or not on)? If you're on meds, do you think they might be aggravating your depression? I do remember seeing your name on some threads about stimulants. Stimulants can be very helpful, but after a while, they, too, can cause depression, especially when they wear off. I know this post probably belongs over on the med board, but this is where I've seen you lately, so I'm posting here.
>
> SarahHI Sarah-
Here's what I'm on:
Lexapro, Adderall, Ativan, hydrocodone (an opiate), Seroquel + Ambien for sleep.
My problem is not the meds so much as me not taking them always on schedule. Somedays I take them while other days I stay in bed and refuse to take them - even though I know they will help make me feel better.
Oh and the opiate - prescribed by my psychiatrist to help with the depression (long story, but interesting).
Jerry
Posted by jerrympls on October 14, 2005, at 21:57:23
In reply to Re: How are you feeling?, posted by lynn970 on October 13, 2005, at 16:13:14
> I am so glad to hear from you. I was very concerned. I have been thinking about you.
> ((((jerrympls)))))
Thanks. I'm feeling somewhat better. We'll see. Thank everyone for your support - I really appreciate it.
Jerry
Posted by Sarah T. on October 15, 2005, at 1:58:42
In reply to Re: How are you feeling? » Sarah T., posted by jerrympls on October 14, 2005, at 21:56:03
Hi Jerry,
Thanks for your reply. I'm glad to see you up and about.
I know what you mean about not taking meds on schedule or just not taking them. I've found that to be very difficult, especially when it comes to stimulants, although there is some benefit to taking "holidays" from stimulants.
In a day or so, I'd like to ask you about your experience with Lexapro. I'll probably have to ask you about it on the med board.
By the way, if you don't mind my asking, when you stay up late and watch TV, what do you like to watch? Do you like comedies? Drama? Science Fiction?
Sarah
Posted by alesta on October 19, 2005, at 19:06:15
In reply to I really want to end my life, posted by jerrympls on October 7, 2005, at 9:37:11
hi jerry,
i am finding your thread titles to be very 'triggery' and a shock to my system for some reason..could you please change the thread title from the first person "i want to.." to something else, perhaps simply a statement that the post will be about suicide or something? i'm glad you're posting your feelings..i just think a less jarring thread title might be a good idea, for everyone's mental safety. just a slight change in mindset and i might become suicidal myself..thanks much, jer.:)i hope you can find relief from your pain soon jerry..you can make it..try not to focus on suicide if at all possible..i'd say more but not in a good position to do so at this time..
take care,:)
amy
Posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 14:39:19
In reply to thread titles..to jer, posted by alesta on October 19, 2005, at 19:06:15
> hi jerry,
> i am finding your thread titles to be very 'triggery' and a shock to my system for some reason..could you please change the thread title from the first person "i want to.." to something else, perhaps simply a statement that the post will be about suicide or something? i'm glad you're posting your feelings..i just think a less jarring thread title might be a good idea, for everyone's mental safety. just a slight change in mindset and i might become suicidal myself..thanks much, jer.:)
>
> i hope you can find relief from your pain soon jerry..you can make it..try not to focus on suicide if at all possible..i'd say more but not in a good position to do so at this time..
>
> take care,:)
> amy
>HI -
Sure. I was unaware that the wording of topics can trigger certain moods. But I don't understand what the difference would be between a post topic that said:
"I really want to end my life"
vs.
"This is about my feelings of suicide
or
"TOPIC: Suicide?"
Please don't take any of this wrong - but if I am having a crisis with feelings of suicide and how should I post? If you know certain topics like suicide are triggers for you, then why read them (if you are reading them?).
I'm just trying to understand better.
Thanks
Jerry
Posted by wildcard on October 23, 2005, at 14:45:06
In reply to Re: thread titles..to jer » alesta, posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 14:39:19
Hey Jerry! How are you doing? Better I hope. Oh, by putting a trigger, I would think you could put ***TRIGGER~Do not want to live*** or something similar. I see your point though about the word 'suicide', etc., being an automatic trigger but maybe it was something in the actual post itself?? Just a thought.
Now again, how are you???
Posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 14:54:01
In reply to Re: thread titles..to jer » jerrympls, posted by wildcard on October 23, 2005, at 14:45:06
> Hey Jerry! How are you doing? Better I hope. Oh, by putting a trigger, I would think you could put ***TRIGGER~Do not want to live*** or something similar. I see your point though about the word 'suicide', etc., being an automatic trigger but maybe it was something in the actual post itself?? Just a thought.
> Now again, how are you???OH ok - thanks - that makes more sense.
I'm doing ok--but it's been hard. I have a job interview this week and I'm worried (if I get the job) that my depression will continue to get in the way. Sometimes I wish i could take a year off - but I don't have any savings and I don't know what money I'd live off of.
But I'd like to have time to do some things *I* want to do - not go to a 9to5 job every week just to pay bills. And it always seems like there's never enough time to do projects I really want to do when I'm holding down a fulltime job because I get hom and I'm pretty well spent for the day. Then I end up sleeping all weekend.
I dunno. I have been thinking about going back to school to become a PharmD.
Posted by wildcard on October 23, 2005, at 15:24:50
In reply to Re: thread titles..to jer » wildcard, posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 14:54:01
I watched a movie the other night and the guy was down and discouraged because he had it in his mind that he couldn't get something so very important for his future done. Anyway, his dad came and spoke w/ him and said, "If you want something done bad enough, get off your *ss and do it". I thought to myself how many times I have said I want to do this or do that, but I never do and after reading a poem by a woman she wrote after she was diagnosed w/ cancer, it really hit me that we only get one chance at life. I've been letting mine slip away. I just thought I'd mention that for some reason?!
>Here's that poem if you want to read it. I got teary eyed so u may not want too.(((Jerry)))IF I HAD MY LIFE TO LIVE OVER - by Erma Bombeck
(written after she found out she was dying from cancer).>I would have gone to bed when I was sick instead of pretending the earth would go into a holding pattern if I weren't there for the day.
>I would have burned the pink candle sculpted like a rose before it melted in storage.
>I would have talked less and listened more.
>I would have invited friends over to dinner even if the carpet was stained, or the sofa faded.
>I would have eaten the popcorn in the 'good' living room and worried much less about the dirt when someone wanted to light a fire in the fireplace.
>I would have taken the time to listen to my grandfather ramble about his youth.
>I would have shared more of the responsibility carried by my husband.
>I would never have insisted the car windows be rolled up on a summer day because my hair had just been teased and sprayed.
>I would have sat on the lawn with my grass stains.
>I would have cried and laughed less while watching television and more while watching life.
>I would never have bought anything just because it was practical, wouldn't show soil, or was guaranteed to last a lifetime.
>Instead of wishing away nine months of pregnancy, I'd have cherished every moment and realized that the wonderment growing inside me was the only chance in life to assist God in a miracle.>When my kids kissed me impetuously, I would never have said, "Later. Now go get washed up for dinner."
>There would have been more "I love you's." More "I'm sorry's."
*But mostly, given another shot at life, I would seize every minute..look at it and really see it, live it and never give it back. Stop sweating the small stuff.
Don't worry about who doesn't like you, who has more, or who's doing what.
Instead, let's cherish the relationships we have with those who do love us.*
Posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 17:07:58
In reply to Go for it » jerrympls, posted by wildcard on October 23, 2005, at 15:24:50
Thanks for the poem - very nice.
But, how can I do what i want in life and still support myself? To say - jsut get out there and do it is easier said than done - but I guess that's the point.
I just feel that my "prime" has passed. I'm mostly apathetic anyway and am just sitting around waiting to die. Sorry to sound morbid.
Posted by wildcard on October 23, 2005, at 17:12:18
In reply to Re: Go for it » wildcard, posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 17:07:58
I am also very apathetic and have been for 2 years so at 27 I sit inside too scared to face the world. That poem just made me realize that some people wld. do anything for another day and here I sit, wasting mine. Make sense? Have you tried for disability due to your illness?
Posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 17:18:13
In reply to Re: Go for it » jerrympls, posted by wildcard on October 23, 2005, at 17:12:18
> I am also very apathetic and have been for 2 years so at 27 I sit inside too scared to face the world. That poem just made me realize that some people wld. do anything for another day and here I sit, wasting mine. Make sense? Have you tried for disability due to your illness?
Sounds like you and I have mushc in common. I'm 33. I haven't tried disability because I always hear that it's impossible to get. I have a severe sleep phase disorder which makes it almost impossible to work a 9to5 job. WHat do I do? Where can I find out more about disability?
Posted by wildcard on October 23, 2005, at 17:33:17
In reply to Re: Go for it » wildcard, posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 17:18:13
I think it's the same every where you live in the US. You look up your local social security office and call them and explain that you want to file for disability(that's how it is in SC/NC). They will send you the forms through the mail or you can do it online if you have a printer. It's a lot of forms too! They let you know within 60 days and if denied, you can appeal two more times and if you get a lawyer, most do not charge unless they think you will win b/c they usually only collect if you do win. Try going to www.socialsecurity.gov and see what u get or google SSA or call tomorrow. It's worth a try! If U need any more info., I'm more than happy to help. I'm in my 2nd appeal right now waiting. They turned me down and stated the reasons were my age and education which is discrimination so many lawyers are interested and here, if you win, they back pay from the date your claim was filed.; ) abbey
Posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 18:10:35
In reply to Re: Go for it » jerrympls, posted by wildcard on October 23, 2005, at 17:33:17
> I think it's the same every where you live in the US. You look up your local social security office and call them and explain that you want to file for disability(that's how it is in SC/NC). They will send you the forms through the mail or you can do it online if you have a printer. It's a lot of forms too! They let you know within 60 days and if denied, you can appeal two more times and if you get a lawyer, most do not charge unless they think you will win b/c they usually only collect if you do win. Try going to www.socialsecurity.gov and see what u get or google SSA or call tomorrow. It's worth a try! If U need any more info., I'm more than happy to help. I'm in my 2nd appeal right now waiting. They turned me down and stated the reasons were my age and education which is discrimination so many lawyers are interested and here, if you win, they back pay from the date your claim was filed.; ) abbey
Thanks for the info!
Posted by jerrympls on October 23, 2005, at 18:49:53
In reply to Re: Go for it » jerrympls, posted by wildcard on October 23, 2005, at 17:33:17
> I think it's the same every where you live in the US. You look up your local social security office and call them and explain that you want to file for disability(that's how it is in SC/NC). They will send you the forms through the mail or you can do it online if you have a printer. It's a lot of forms too! They let you know within 60 days and if denied, you can appeal two more times and if you get a lawyer, most do not charge unless they think you will win b/c they usually only collect if you do win. Try going to www.socialsecurity.gov and see what u get or google SSA or call tomorrow. It's worth a try! If U need any more info., I'm more than happy to help. I'm in my 2nd appeal right now waiting. They turned me down and stated the reasons were my age and education which is discrimination so many lawyers are interested and here, if you win, they back pay from the date your claim was filed.; ) abbey
I just read all about SSI benefits for disabilities and it seems like it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to get disability benefits unless you're dead!
Actually, I remember now I applied for SSI benefits back in my 20's because my depression was so severe I was in bed all the time. Anyway, I had an interview with this grumpy man who wouldn't look at me - or if he did he gave me a look like "You're faking it" - orsomething. Anyway, the interview lasted all of 15 minutes and he said I didn't qualify because I KNEW WHAT YEAR IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!
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