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Posted by Deneb on October 9, 2005, at 20:06:14
Hi people,
I've been sort of just lying around in bed a lot of the time. It's getting cold out and we don't have the heat on yet and all I want to do is take a warm bath or snuggle up in bed. Not really caring about studying or anything. I don't even care if I fail right now. At least I'm not desperate enough to do something stupid.
I don't know what to do with my life...it's all so overwhelming. I'm afraid of so many things. I'm afraid I'm never going to be self-sufficient.
I don't feel like I'm in the world. The feeling of unreality is quite intense.
Anyone else feel this? It's weird.
I wonder if exercise will help? My new p-doc is big on exercise. I'm going to try it, go on the treadmill for 30 mins. I'll be back.
Deneb
Posted by Angela2 on October 9, 2005, at 20:31:38
In reply to Can't get going, posted by Deneb on October 9, 2005, at 20:06:14
Exercise sounds good. Go Go deneb! I sometimes fear I will never be self sufficient too. I always put off the important stuff. My check book, the store, filling prescriptions, cleaning...I think I'm gonna do something about it though. I'll try a little each day. I don't have super motivation to do it, but I'm gonna try.
Posted by Deneb on October 9, 2005, at 20:52:37
In reply to Re: Can't get going, posted by Angela2 on October 9, 2005, at 20:31:38
> Exercise sounds good. Go Go deneb!
Golly, I'm hot now! That was a good way to warm up!
>I sometimes fear I will never be self sufficient too. I always put off the important stuff. My check book, the store, filling prescriptions, cleaning...I think I'm gonna do something about it though. I'll try a little each day. I don't have super motivation to do it, but I'm gonna try.
I'm not sure too many people like cleaning, lol. That's understandable...to put off cleaning. :-)
I think we need motivational speakers here! LOL I'm starting to wonder if my not being able to see a tangible future for myself is contributing to my lack of motivation with studying.
I'm so cut off from the real world. I wonder if I'm normal?
Deneb
Posted by alexandra_k on October 9, 2005, at 21:02:20
In reply to Can't get going, posted by Deneb on October 9, 2005, at 20:06:14
yeah exercise is good...
gets your bodies natural opiates (endorphins) going
hard to feel lethargic, depressed, or sad when you get those cranking...(actually managing it when you are in such a state is the hardest thing)
also good for when you are in one of those states.
maybe take up kickboxing or something ;-)
Posted by Angela2 on October 9, 2005, at 21:29:12
In reply to Re: Can't get going » Angela2, posted by Deneb on October 9, 2005, at 20:52:37
What is your major by the way? I don't think anyone is normal. hm...do you wish to be more in the real world? Or do you like the way things are?
Posted by Phillipa on October 9, 2005, at 22:21:56
In reply to Re: Can't get going » Deneb, posted by Angela2 on October 9, 2005, at 21:29:12
I think Wildcard does kickboxing. And where is she anyway? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Sarah T. on October 9, 2005, at 23:07:54
In reply to Can't get going, posted by Deneb on October 9, 2005, at 20:06:14
Hello there, Deneb,
Wow! I'm impressed that you went running. I exercise nearly every day, too, but running is not my forte. I'm a bit older than you (actually, I'm a lot older), so that means my joints are older than yours, and they don't appreciate all that force being placed on them. But the best exercise is the one that you like to do, the one that you enjoy enough to make you go back for more. I have to admit that, in all the years I've been on and off meds, exercise is still the best antidepressant and antidepressant adjunct I've found. It has very few adverse effects, and it doesn't poop out on me. It has both antidepressant and anxiolytic (anti-anxiety) effects.
Regarding your first comments about not being motivated. . . well, that could be caused by many things, including this chilly weather, as you suggested. I have a really hard time getting going when the weather is cold and damp. I just want to cuddle under the covers with my purring cats. There is one other, VERY important consideration, and that is the Celexa. As I mentioned in some previous messages to you, some meds, especially certain ssri's, can cause and/or worsen problems with motivation, goal-oriented behavior, and long-term planning. And, because of the very nature of the problem, patients are less likely to notice and/or report this to their doctors. Try, as hard as you can, to be aware of this, and discuss it with the doctor if you think it is interfering with your work. As I said, there are other medications that can increase serotonin without causing the decrease in dopamine that is responsible for apathy and amotivational syndromes.
By the way, do you have a treadmill in your house? Have you ever used an elliptical trainer?
Posted by Phillipa on October 9, 2005, at 23:22:18
In reply to Re: Deneb, the electron-pushing treadmill runner » Deneb, posted by Sarah T. on October 9, 2005, at 23:07:54
Sara, I use an Eliptical trainer and hate it so much I hardly do it at the gym. Running produces a high like no other one can. I can no longer run because I'm even older than you and joints cant take it. I did run untill I was around 55 two miles a day. And that's when the anxiety/depression really hit. Fondly, phillipa
Posted by Sarah T. on October 9, 2005, at 23:41:30
In reply to Re: Deneb, the electron-pushing treadmill runner » Sarah T., posted by Phillipa on October 9, 2005, at 23:22:18
Hi Phillipa,
Can you tell me why you don't like the elliptical trainer?
Do you think that the Lyme Disease may have caused your joints to get worse? If the Lyme were completely cured, do you think you could run again? What about brisk walking? Do you like swimming?
Posted by Deneb on October 9, 2005, at 23:45:11
In reply to Re: Deneb, the electron-pushing treadmill runner » Deneb, posted by Sarah T. on October 9, 2005, at 23:07:54
> Hello there, Deneb,
>
> Wow! I'm impressed that you went running. I exercise nearly every day, too, but running is not my forte.LOL, who said anything about running? Running isn't really my thing either and I definitely don't exercise every day! I just went jogging on the treadmill, and only because I wanted to see if it would give me some energy. It certainly woke me up!
>I have to admit that, in all the years I've been on and off meds, exercise is still the best antidepressant and antidepressant adjunct I've found. It has very few adverse effects, and it doesn't poop out on me. It has both antidepressant and anxiolytic (anti-anxiety) effects.
Maybe this new p-doc realizes this too. :-)
>As I mentioned in some previous messages to you, some meds, especially certain ssri's, can cause and/or worsen problems with motivation, goal-oriented behavior, and long-term planning.
This new p-doc keeps talking about Wellbutrin...would that give me more motivation?
> By the way, do you have a treadmill in your house? Have you ever used an elliptical trainer?
Yup, my parents have a treadmill in the basement. They don't use it. I don't use it as much as I should. I've never used an elliptical trainer...they look kind of fun in the infomercials. LOL
Deneb
Posted by Sarah T. on October 9, 2005, at 23:59:56
In reply to Re: Deneb, the electron-pushing treadmill runner » Sarah T., posted by Deneb on October 9, 2005, at 23:45:11
Hi Deneb,
Yes, I do think Wellbutrin is worth a try; however, it MIGHT cause increased anxiety. I've met quite a few people here and "in real life" who take Wellbutrin. I took it a long time ago. In SOME people it can cause increased anxiety and insomnia, but those side effects can be treated in some people. I've met others here who can take Wellbutrin with absolutely no problems, or they take it with something else that helps alleviate some of the side effects. As you've probably noticed, reactions to meds are so individual, you just have to try them and see how you do. If you do try Wellbutrin, start at a low dose and work up slowly.
I've tried several different kinds of elliptical trainers, at different gyms and in the store. Some are terrific and fun to use; others are a nuisance. It's probably a function of price. The less expensive ones were kind of wobbly and my knees kept hitting part of the apparatus on one of them. Again, it's highly individual.
Isn't it almost "magical" the way exercise has the power to transform your energy levels and mood? You woke up from your exercise. Often, the times that I don't want to exercise at all are the times I need it most. I can walk into the gym in the WORST mood, feeling like a great big inert slug. After exercise, I'm like a new person, in a good mood, feeling light and agile. All the problems are still there, but after exercise, they become manageable.
Posted by Phillipa on October 10, 2005, at 17:54:17
In reply to Re: Deneb, the electron-pushing treadmill runner, posted by Sarah T. on October 9, 2005, at 23:59:56
Sarah, I don't like the eliptical cause it's boring. And when I get off I feel worse than when I started. Very tired. Whatever happened to the good feeling? I think a lot of it has to do with being fearful something might happen to me. Someone always says something in the gym to make my anxiety worse. Last year I used to walk the beach 5 miles everyday. But when my husband lost interest so did I. Now I hate it too. My daughter gets up early goes to gym and doess cycling class , goes to work, and then real estate course, and she's going to get a divorce too. And my bones crunch when I shrug my shoulders, or sometimes even move. I don't know if lymes's affects bones does it? I know I do have osteoporois. It's hard to get old. Fondly, Phillipa
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