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Posted by Susan47 on June 6, 2005, at 22:27:31
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Susan47, posted by Tamar on June 6, 2005, at 19:11:59
I haven't found men to be really all that different, amongst themselves. They're pretty much what you see is what you get. It depends, though, on how clearly I'm seeing what I'm getting. :] I have been known to make errors in choosing my men.
heavy sigh.
Posted by Susan47 on June 6, 2005, at 22:31:26
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Susan47, posted by Damos on June 6, 2005, at 21:39:06
For your mother, he never bought flowers for your mother? Your mother expected very little for herself, and that's so so sad. I wonder at how much things can be different for people. Maybe she was happy never getting flowers from him. Maybe it didn't matter to her... or maybe she never thought she was worth it? I never thought I was. I felt so disconnected whenever anybody did anything nice for me. I lost many people along the way.
Posted by Tamar on June 7, 2005, at 5:07:17
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Tamar, posted by Susan47 on June 6, 2005, at 22:27:31
> I haven't found men to be really all that different, amongst themselves. They're pretty much what you see is what you get.
I'm a little surprised. The men I know and like are very different from each other, and most of them have hidden depths!
> It depends, though, on how clearly I'm seeing what I'm getting. :] I have been known to make errors in choosing my men.
Do you find that men think of you in that same way? That they think "Susan47 - what you see is what you get"? Because I'm not sure that would be fair to you.
And yeah, haven't we all made errors choosing men!
Posted by Susan47 on June 7, 2005, at 12:16:40
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Susan47, posted by Tamar on June 7, 2005, at 5:07:17
Good question. No, no, not at all. I'm not being fair, am I? Hmh. Thinking that I would love, I really need, to have men friends. I just don't know how, I guess. I really want to, to know how to have men as friends. To not feel like I always have to back off.
Posted by Tamar on June 7, 2005, at 15:38:16
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Tamar, posted by Susan47 on June 7, 2005, at 12:16:40
> Good question. No, no, not at all. I'm not being fair, am I? Hmh. Thinking that I would love, I really need, to have men friends. I just don't know how, I guess. I really want to, to know how to have men as friends. To not feel like I always have to back off.
I think it’s a lot of fun having men as friends. Definitely worth trying if you haven’t done it before!
For me, it’s very much like having women as friends. I meet someone, I think he seems nice, we talk about stuff we both find interesting. Sometimes I find my men friends attractive, but it’s understood that it’s just a friendship and not a potential relationship.
But here’s the question… why do you feel like you always have to back off?
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 7, 2005, at 15:47:40
In reply to Wham. I got it. » caraher, posted by Susan47 on June 6, 2005, at 14:48:18
> A confident man is really really sexy.
> Which makes me realize, when a man is dressed well, he feels more confident, LARRY HOOVER are you listening? Sweetheart, if you're confident and sexy in your well-cut jeans, okay. Hmm. But I'll bet if you're dressed like a million bucks, you're different. I'll bet you change, subtly, in ways you don't even see.Susan, dear, no one who didn't read our entire exchange over on Relationships would have the slightest idea why you mentioned me here, would they?
I did not mean to suggest that I don't like to dress up, nor that I do not clean up well. Rather, most days, I choose to wear comfortable clothes over ones that produce any particular "image". You will always get the authentic Lar, no matter what clothes I am in, or none.
Lar
Posted by gardenergirl on June 7, 2005, at 16:12:03
In reply to Re: Wham. I got it. » Susan47, posted by Larry Hoover on June 7, 2005, at 15:47:40
Posted by Damos on June 7, 2005, at 16:59:54
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men, posted by Susan47 on June 6, 2005, at 18:39:34
> "She is who she is and she's beautiful and perfect just as she is and what is truly attracting me comes from somewhere unexplainable deep inside anyway"
> and I absolutely melted, do you know how beautiful that sounds?It honestly hadn't occurred to me. It was/is just true for me. I hope some day soon someone helps you feel that it's true for you too.
Posted by Susan47 on June 7, 2005, at 23:13:36
In reply to Re: Wham. I got it. » Susan47, posted by Larry Hoover on June 7, 2005, at 15:47:40
Mm, you had to mention none, of course. Of course.
Posted by Susan47 on June 7, 2005, at 23:20:21
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Susan47, posted by Tamar on June 7, 2005, at 15:38:16
Something about me seems to put men into defense mode. More when they're with their women, and women tend to be unfriendly towards me at first, when they get to know me, they're good.. that doesn't happen much, anymore, though. I've learned how to let myself come through enough, I've learned to be comfy with myself, and if a woman is stand-offish I can handle it well, now. I don't become angry or feel badly about myself. I used to. Now I just am learning, I guess, that not all men are potential enemies. Or something. Something that feels.. bad? Maybe men can be sweet, and kind, and humble .. there're so many insecure people out there. People are so mean to each other when they're insecure. They can be horrible. I guess, you know I think I've been around a lot of insecure men in my life. Too many. Never again. I can see them, now, a mile away, and I won't have anything to do with them. Even the nice ones.
Posted by Mr.Scott on June 8, 2005, at 2:32:34
In reply to This is about Sex and Men, posted by Susan47 on June 4, 2005, at 17:14:27
Sorry... but I didn't bring it up...and I just can't help myself from elaborating on the topic with my own spin...
Today I had sex twice, and am now going to masturbate.
First time was oral, and her first time swallowing 'ever' I might add. She didn't like it but wanted to try it. Who was I to try and stop her! She usually gives me head and I cum on her breasts.
Second time was vaginal and multi-positional, but it was hard to cum with the condom after already having earlier so she finished the job with her hand and some of that KY warming lotion. I love kissing her while she does that.
Now I'm going to masturbate (to her), as she has long since gone to bed. I smell her all over me as well as the vanilla flavored/scented lube. (I was just offered a new job today and am too excited to sleep!)
What can I say...I'm in love with her, I have a high sex drive especially since ditching the SSRI's! And a female started this thread. Surely I can't be blocked for that!
Scott
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 8, 2005, at 7:45:09
In reply to Re: Wham. I got it., posted by Susan47 on June 7, 2005, at 23:13:36
> Mm, you had to mention none, of course. Of course.
Of course.
I'm always reminded of one of the arguments forwarded for the naturist movement. Once thus relieved of attire, all are equalized.
Unfortunately for moi, t'ain't so. I sunburn in a New York minute, and the parts of me that ain't seen the sun fry even faster.
Lar
Posted by Susan47 on June 8, 2005, at 11:21:59
In reply to Re: Wham. I got it. » Susan47, posted by Larry Hoover on June 8, 2005, at 7:45:09
Hmm, You know, it's true those parts are more sun-sensitive. Start out with a New York thirty-seconder, then, and .. hmm.. let's see, .. through an open window, morning sun, around about 10:30 or so, that's a nice time.
I read that it's good to get the morning sun without sunscreen .. Vitamin D, I s'pose.
I burned a bit at the beach, yesterday .. it was worth it. I live in a lovely part of the world, y'know. I love being on the ocean, being able to go down anytime I like and listen to the waves hitting the rocky shore, watch them swirling around the larger rocks, breaking over reefs. It's the best place to write stuff. Even if it's garbage, it's still good garbage :)
Posted by Susan47 on June 8, 2005, at 11:26:27
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Susan47, posted by Mr.Scott on June 8, 2005, at 2:32:34
I hope not. But I can see where you maybe should have put a warning up, for some people. I don't think there's a reason to get explicit though. I have lots of things I'd love to discuss, too, in detail, about sex, but I don't think this is the place. I mean, not for the details of exactly what you do .. but maybe it's okay. I don't know. I'm sure you'll be getting some opinions on this.
Posted by Susan47 on June 8, 2005, at 11:48:55
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men, posted by Susan47 on June 8, 2005, at 11:26:27
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on June 8, 2005, at 13:22:25
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Susan47, posted by Mr.Scott on June 8, 2005, at 2:32:34
Umm, Well, I guess that answers Rainbowbrite's question as to why you weren't at the babble party :)
Posted by Tamar on June 8, 2005, at 19:52:10
In reply to This is Drivel, maybe, but it feels good to voice » Tamar, posted by Susan47 on June 7, 2005, at 23:20:21
> Something about me seems to put men into defense mode. More when they're with their women, and women tend to be unfriendly towards me at first, when they get to know me, they're good.. that doesn't happen much, anymore, though. I've learned how to let myself come through enough, I've learned to be comfy with myself, and if a woman is stand-offish I can handle it well, now. I don't become angry or feel badly about myself. I used to. Now I just am learning, I guess, that not all men are potential enemies. Or something. Something that feels.. bad? Maybe men can be sweet, and kind, and humble .. there're so many insecure people out there. People are so mean to each other when they're insecure. They can be horrible. I guess, you know I think I've been around a lot of insecure men in my life. Too many. Never again. I can see them, now, a mile away, and I won't have anything to do with them. Even the nice ones.
I really think men are just people, like you or me. Some are good; some are not so good. Some are secure; some are less secure. Most men are good at times and bad at times, secure at times and insecure at other times. Just human.
Men are definitely not all potential enemies. Most of them are potential friends.
Men put on their pants one legs at a time, just like me or you. Of course they can be sweet and kind and humble... they're just people. I don't think they're a mystical Other... Women and men are far more alike than different. I’m convinced that part of learning to live with the opposite sex is to accept them as just as human as ourselves.
Posted by pinkeye on June 8, 2005, at 20:14:35
In reply to Re: This is Drivel, maybe, but it feels good to voice, posted by Tamar on June 8, 2005, at 19:52:10
you have a nice way of looking at men :-)
Posted by Mr.Scott on June 8, 2005, at 23:35:13
In reply to Above for Mr. Scott (nm), posted by Susan47 on June 8, 2005, at 11:48:55
I apologize... I was totally out of line.
After 14 hrs of work, 8 cups of coffee, and a great job offer you'd think I'd just goto sleep. But instead I got slap happy and obnoxious. I felt high from the job offer and between that and the overtired state I am in after 11 straight days of work without a day off I was a total *ss.I thought about it all day today. I didn't even do stuff like that when I was drinking and drugging. I thought maybe I was manic, but no...just a goof ball... Sorry!
If its any consolation I overslept this morning and was late to work. Not from masturbating mind you which I never got to! But rather from jerking around (no pun intended) on the internet.
Scott
Posted by Mr.Scott on June 8, 2005, at 23:41:47
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Mr.Scott, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on June 8, 2005, at 13:22:25
No...my old friend...I had a birthday party one night, and worked both saturday & sunday. I just was too tired (as you can now see the results!), and also maybe a little scared or trapped in some weird neurotic fear... I can't remember which, but I was tired and I often don't like to be social when I'm tired because I feel I need to 'seem' perfect. I'm nuts what can I say... I regret not following through though.
Scott
Posted by Susan47 on June 9, 2005, at 0:26:57
In reply to Re: Above for Mr. Scott » Susan47, posted by Mr.Scott on June 8, 2005, at 23:35:13
You're very funny. How on earth would you think that eight cups of coffee would allow you to sleep?
Of course you were punch-drunk. Who wouldn't be? And I suppose after reading all the Penthouse letters I've read, I'd have to say you're a pretty normal male just being all comfy cozy with yourself. :]
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on June 9, 2005, at 9:23:37
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Gabbi-x-2, posted by Mr.Scott on June 8, 2005, at 23:41:47
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> No...my old friend...That sounds nice
Thanks
I'm really glad you're doing better.
Posted by Tamar on June 9, 2005, at 19:28:32
In reply to Re: Above for Mr. Scott » Susan47, posted by Mr.Scott on June 8, 2005, at 23:35:13
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> I apologize... I was totally out of line.Y'know... I don't think it was really out of line. One of Susan's first questions on this thread was about what men think about during and after sex. You answered that, perhaps not entirely directly, but nevertheless your post gave an answer to the question. It was entertaining and not at all offensive. So give yourself a break.
Oh, and congratulations on the job offer!
Tamar
Posted by Jazzed on June 9, 2005, at 22:54:42
In reply to This is about Sex and Men, posted by Susan47 on June 4, 2005, at 17:14:27
interesting thread! Be really careful about doing it in public. Getting caught in a park is NOT fun! LOL
I have to admit, I have a constant sex drive, and often NEED to help myself out a couple of times a day. I don't know if it's because I take Maca and Damiana or not, but I think it surely helps. Also, self satisfaction seems to make me feel sexier. I guess because I fantasize and make things much more interesting than they often are. Not that my husband isn't interesting, but you know.....
Whatever, have fun with it!
Jazzy
Posted by Mr.Scott on June 10, 2005, at 2:33:01
In reply to Re: This is about Sex and Men » Susan47, posted by Jazzed on June 9, 2005, at 22:54:42
I used to have a sex drive that was so high it was actually disturbing. Not just to me but to my partners. Now its just plain good! While I'm primarily depressed (Not currently) I also have had mild hypomanias. Prozac stimulated my sex drive initially (for a year or so). I had one girlfriend in college tell me I needed to start wearing condoms even though she was on the pill because we did it so much she felt like she was always wearing a wet diaper and needed to constantly change her underwear.
Scott
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