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Posted by gardenergirl on February 12, 2005, at 9:45:05
In reply to Support versus Education, posted by alexandra_k on February 11, 2005, at 20:11:42
Not to stir up board comparison controversy again...this is just my own observation and my own preference....
One of the things I really love about Babble is that I get both support and advice/education. I think part of that is because people here know me, and as Jujube quite beautifully pointed out, you develop a sense for what the person is asking for, and what else they might be able to consider that maybe they hadn't thought of.
My experience at another site is that unless I specifically ask for advice, I get supportive posts in return. Nothing wrong with that, but I guess because I'm not really known there and have not developed the relationships there as I have here, they seem less satisfying to me.
In regards to your situation over at the other site, I babblemailed you on it. But I also want to agree with AllDone about the do not post to me thing. Of course asking on one board does not preclude you from posting on another, but I think this poster is not inclined to appreciate any posts from you right now, since she has asked you not to post.
I did see what you were trying to say in the post that was deleted. I know I would value someone pointing me in a direction to look that maybe I hadn't thought of. Especially if they had had the opportunity to observe something in me that might fit. And especially if we had a relationship where I trusted their judgement.
I think education is good. And there is a difference between education and advice, imo. I see that clearly at times in posts here that perhaps sometimes do not have the effect that the author may have intended. Although I am inferring intent and responding to their posts as an individual, so I guess you can't generalize from my own observations. (backpedal backpedal backpedal)
So, there are my associations to your situation. For what it's worth...
One thing I appreciate about your posts, alexandra, is the critical thinking you put into them. Always makes me think, too.
Warmly,
gg
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 12, 2005, at 13:49:48
In reply to Re: Support versus Education » Gabbi-x-2, posted by Dinah on February 12, 2005, at 9:19:34
> I bow to your superior powers of observation. :)
Oh is that what it was? I think perhaps it was me knowing how I feel sometimes, I just have the good fortune of a very patient civility buddy. : )
Posted by Dinah on February 12, 2005, at 14:28:46
In reply to Re: Support versus Education » Dinah, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 12, 2005, at 13:49:48
In that case I bow to your superior powers of empathy.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 12, 2005, at 14:36:22
In reply to :-) » Gabbi-x-2, posted by Dinah on February 12, 2005, at 14:28:46
> In that case I bow to your superior powers of empathy.
>
> Well seeing as you insist on being down there, can I toss you a cloth? My mom's coming to visit, and the floors are kinda yucky.
Posted by Dinah on February 12, 2005, at 17:37:23
In reply to Re: :-) » Dinah, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 12, 2005, at 14:36:22
Gladly.
And since you're up there can I toss you a cloth? We're converting a room into a library and the walls need a good rinse.
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 12, 2005, at 20:03:46
In reply to lol » Gabbi-x-2, posted by Dinah on February 12, 2005, at 17:37:23
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 12, 2005, at 20:13:17
In reply to Re: Support versus Education » alexandra_k, posted by All Done on February 12, 2005, at 1:47:42
Sorry Just getting the thread back on track
Posted by alexandra_k on February 12, 2005, at 21:18:40
In reply to Re: Support versus Education, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on February 12, 2005, at 20:13:17
Thanks all. Loads to think about. Just two points.
1) Yes I have been requested to not post to this person. I have broken that twice. The first was an attempt at an amicable parting of ways and a request that she not post to me. The second was the post we are discussing now. She has also broken my request not to post to her on two occasions. Both times to express how very offended she was with me.
So the moral of that is: we are both as bad as each other in that respect. Ugh. I just wanted to say that in case people are thinking I am continually breaking her requests and *harassing* her.
But yeah. Point taken. The cycle stops here.
2) Second point. My posts weren't deleted because I was requested not to post to her, or because she was offended (apparantly). It was made clear they were deleted because the *content* was objectionable.
IMO not so. Not so *very objectionable* that it warranted a deletion.
I anticipated she would be offended.
I didn't take that terribly personally though.
There isn't really a good time to say what I did.
I thought it might be useful to her one day
When she was ready.But by deleting them the good is gone and all that is left is the bad.
Whatever.
Posted by alexandra_k on February 12, 2005, at 21:22:32
In reply to Re: Thanks everyone, posted by alexandra_k on February 12, 2005, at 21:18:40
To qualify the *whatever*
This is no good
This is no goodWe'll be asking Dr B for a board to deal with admin issues at PC next.
Or at least I will.
I just don't know what to do with it when you can't post about it. So I post about it somewhere I don't get into trouble for posting about it. But it is fairly inappropriate.
So.
There it is.
PS. Good point Dinah. You are right :-)
But there are only so many hours in the day and you guys keep me happily amused more than you should anyways :-)
Posted by gardenergirl on February 12, 2005, at 21:28:48
In reply to Re: Thanks everyone, posted by alexandra_k on February 12, 2005, at 21:18:40
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> 1) Yes I have been requested to not post to this person. I have broken that twice. The first was an attempt at an amicable parting of ways and a request that she not post to me. The second was the post we are discussing now. She has also broken my request not to post to her on two occasions. Both times to express how very offended she was with me.Yes, you are right about her posting, too. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
gg
>
>
Posted by All Done on February 13, 2005, at 2:15:31
In reply to Re: Thanks everyone » alexandra_k, posted by gardenergirl on February 12, 2005, at 21:28:48
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> >
> > 1) Yes I have been requested to not post to this person. I have broken that twice. The first was an attempt at an amicable parting of ways and a request that she not post to me. The second was the post we are discussing now. She has also broken my request not to post to her on two occasions. Both times to express how very offended she was with me.
>
> Yes, you are right about her posting, too. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
>
> gg
> >
> >Me, too. Sorry I wasn't more clear, Alexandra. I wouldn't necessarily say that two wrongs makes a right, but I didn't mean to say anything that would give the opinion that you were harassing her.
I should have also said I'm sorry this was so upsetting for you. So, I've given you my opinion on the whole thing. Care for a hug, now?
(((((alexandra)))))
Take care,
Laurie
Posted by All Done on February 13, 2005, at 2:17:23
In reply to Re: Thanks everyone, posted by All Done on February 13, 2005, at 2:15:31
Posted by alexandra_k on February 13, 2005, at 15:16:30
In reply to Re: Thanks everyone, posted by All Done on February 13, 2005, at 2:15:31
Oh, thats ok.
I wasn't really upset. Just a bit pissed off. Over it already.
Not upset with anyone here.
(((All Done))).
Hugs are good.
Posted by Damos on February 16, 2005, at 15:09:45
In reply to Re: Thanks everyone » All Done, posted by alexandra_k on February 13, 2005, at 15:16:30
What, even from Aussies???? Surely that'd be going way to far =0).
Posted by alexandra_k on February 16, 2005, at 19:50:56
In reply to Re: Thanks everyone, posted by Damos on February 16, 2005, at 15:09:45
Don't push your luck, alright?????
(I am kidding)
Where are you from in Aussie anyways????
(You don't have to answer if you want to be verrrrrry anonymous - but I would be interested).
PS you will have to put up with crocodile digs every now and then. Hell, I have to put up with them even though I point out that THERE BLOODY WELL AREN'T ANY IN NZ.
I think us Australasians should stick together, really
:-)
At least we are into summer
:-)
:-)
:-p
Posted by AuntieMel on February 17, 2005, at 16:06:47
In reply to Re: except possibly australians » Damos, posted by alexandra_k on February 16, 2005, at 19:50:56
Posted by alexandra_k on February 17, 2005, at 17:31:58
In reply to are jokes about sheep ok? (nm) » alexandra_k, posted by AuntieMel on February 17, 2005, at 16:06:47
per head of population than in nz.
So fire away :-)
Although, here are a few Aussie jokes...
How can you tell the virgin wool in nz?
They are the sheep that can run faster than the farmers.Why is NZ called the land of the long white cloud?
Cause god likes to cover up his mistakes.How can you tell the bride at a nz wedding?
She's the one wearing the white gumboots.
Posted by Damos on February 17, 2005, at 20:19:05
In reply to Re: except possibly australians » Damos, posted by alexandra_k on February 16, 2005, at 19:50:56
I'll try not to, but I've been dramatically unsuccessful for 40 years now so I can't promise anything =0)
I'm a Sydney boy. currently posting you from my desk at work overlooking the harbour and Opera House and out to the heads. Lifes hard. Actually live about 40 mins west by train, out near a place called Parramatta (the so-called geographic heart of Sydney). Yes that makes me a loooooong suffering Waratahs supporta.
What's the only thing more depressing than watching the Waratahs on TV?
Watching them live.
One of the funniest things Clive James ever said was: "Why did God create America?" ......"So there was a place to keep Americans!" Ouch.
Croc jokes are okay as is pretty much anything else. I've got pretty thick skin - goes with the head! Still doing a bit of emotional big wave surfing as part of my withdrawal - bought 20 CDs in the last 2 days, and there's only one real dud amoung them
Oops gotta go. Take care ey.
Posted by alexandra_k on February 17, 2005, at 20:50:44
In reply to Re: except possibly australians, posted by Damos on February 17, 2005, at 20:19:05
> I'm a Sydney boy. currently posting you from my desk at work overlooking the harbour and Opera House and out to the heads.
Cool. Have to admit the only place I have been in Sydney is the airport. Well, I had to taxi round from international to domestic so I saw a little tiny bit of Sydney too ;-). I do have to say that I was very impressed with the ashtray. A nice big metal one with sand in it and everyone stood their butts upright. I almost took a picture :-) You can get a good view of the opera house as you fly in. Amazing.
I have been to Tasmania and Canberra. Spent close to 3 months in Canberra last summer. Peoples tell me that they are hardly representitive of the rest of Australia, though. Have you been to NZ?
>Actually live about 40 mins west by train, out near a place called Parramatta (the so-called geographic heart of Sydney). Yes that makes me a loooooong suffering Waratahs supporta.
Hmm. And there are the Parramatta Eels too, aren't there. (Is one rugby and the other league??? - I'm not much of a sports nut.)
> What's the only thing more depressing than watching the Waratahs on TV?
> Watching them live.Heh heh.
I am from Hamilton.
Waikato.
> One of the funniest things Clive James ever said was: "Why did God create America?" ......"So there was a place to keep Americans!" Ouch.Thats okay, beats what Freud said about America ;-)
> Croc jokes are okay as is pretty much anything else. I've got pretty thick skin - goes with the head! Still doing a bit of emotional big wave surfing as part of my withdrawal - bought 20 CDs in the last 2 days, and there's only one real dud amoung them:-)
> Oops gotta go. Take care ey.Yup. You too. Mate.
Posted by AuntieMel on February 18, 2005, at 9:12:31
In reply to there are more sheep in australia..., posted by alexandra_k on February 17, 2005, at 17:31:58
Where men are men and sheep are scared.
Posted by alexandra_k on February 18, 2005, at 15:56:11
In reply to Re: sheep in australia... can I ad one? » alexandra_k, posted by AuntieMel on February 18, 2005, at 9:12:31
Heh heh.
Is that for both Damos and myself????
Posted by AuntieMel on February 18, 2005, at 17:00:08
In reply to Re: sheep in australia... can I ad one? » AuntieMel, posted by alexandra_k on February 18, 2005, at 15:56:11
Posted by AuntieMel on February 18, 2005, at 17:01:28
In reply to Re: except possibly australians, posted by Damos on February 17, 2005, at 20:19:05
You got the prisoners - we got the puritans. You win.
Posted by AuntieMel on February 18, 2005, at 17:05:26
In reply to Re: except possibly australians, posted by Damos on February 17, 2005, at 20:19:05
I passed through Sydney once and spent the night. I didn't know anything about the town really, so I found a hotel I knew was on my company's budget.
Ended up in Kings Cross. What a hoot!
I should have figured something was different about my choice by the strange look the cabbie gave me.
Posted by Damos on February 20, 2005, at 14:57:17
In reply to Re: except possibly australians » Damos, posted by alexandra_k on February 17, 2005, at 20:50:44
> > I'm a Sydney boy. currently posting you from my desk at work overlooking the harbour and Opera House and out to the heads.
>
> Cool. Have to admit the only place I have been in Sydney is the airport. Well, I had to taxi round from international to domestic so I saw a little tiny bit of Sydney too ;-). I do have to say that I was very impressed with the ashtray. A nice big metal one with sand in it and everyone stood their butts upright. I almost took a picture :-) You can get a good view of the opera house as you fly in. Amazing.The airport ey. Now there's a representative slice of Oz if ever there was one. Geez with our taxi drivers you were probably lucky to get there.
>
> I have been to Tasmania and Canberra. Spent close to 3 months in Canberra last summer. Peoples tell me that they are hardly representitive of the rest of Australia, though. Have you been to NZ?Can you believe I've never been out of the country! But it's never too late to start. How on Earth did you survive 3 mths in Canberra??? Tassie is beautiful but just way smaller and slower than most anywhere else. I'm still coming to grips with 3mths in Canberra. The only people who live there are pollies, public servants and porn distributers (so I'm told) ;0)
>
> >Actually live about 40 mins west by train, out near a place called Parramatta (the so-called geographic heart of Sydney). Yes that makes me a loooooong suffering Waratahs supporta.
>
> Hmm. And there are the Parramatta Eels too, aren't there. (Is one rugby and the other league??? - I'm not much of a sports nut.)
>Boy you really do know your stuff! So I guess I should see your Eels and raise the Chiefs =0). I'm no huge sports fan either, just a supporter of underdogs and quiet achievers. But Sonny Bill Williams is ginormous here right now.
> > What's the only thing more depressing than watching the Waratahs on TV?
> > Watching them live.
>
> Heh heh.
> I am from Hamilton.
> Waikato.
>
> > One of the funniest things Clive James ever said was: "Why did God create America?" ......"So there was a place to keep Americans!" Ouch.
>
> Thats okay, beats what Freud said about America ;-)
>
> > Croc jokes are okay as is pretty much anything else. I've got pretty thick skin - goes with the head! Still doing a bit of emotional big wave surfing as part of my withdrawal - bought 20 CDs in the last 2 days, and there's only one real dud amoung them
>
> :-)
>
> > Oops gotta go. Take care ey.
>
> Yup. You too. Mate.Hope your weekend was great. Over here it was wet, wet and wet!
>
>
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