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Posted by Dr. Bob on August 7, 2003, at 19:29:34
In reply to Medicaid cancelling coverage of counseling!!!!!!!, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 14:20:34
> I was so angered when my therapist told me this today... she asked if I wouldn't mind calling Medicaid and asking if it were true, then report back to her. She was under the impression that therapy would no longer be covered, but psychologists and psychiatrists would.
>
> I called Medicaid, and that's not exactly the case. Starting September 1, certain benefits will be cancelled, though I can't recall which ones... but as of October 16, Medicaid will no longer cover psychological counseling for those 21 and older! What's more, they won't even cover eyeglasses anymore!! I'm so infuriated by this... thank the gods they still will cover psychiatric services.
>
> Luckily I don't turn 21 till January 5, so I have a little more time with my wonderful therapist... but this is such B.S.
>
> Thank you so very much for ruining our economy, Mr. President.
Posted by Simcha on August 7, 2003, at 21:05:32
In reply to Medicaid cancels therapy coverage! « Ame Sans Vie, posted by Dr. Bob on August 7, 2003, at 19:29:34
Ooops! Sorry Dr. Bob, I didn't read all the way down the list to the redirect. I'll repost my response here.... Sorry...
Ame,
That situation is terrible! I hope my brother, who is on SSDI does not get dinged. He really needs the help. (My whole family, it seems, has mental illnesses.)
>What's more, they won't even cover eyeglasses anymore!! I'm so infuriated by this... thank the gods they still will cover psychiatric services.
Yeah, I can hear the Ol' Boys on the Hill now, "Well, y'all know that them there crazy poor people don't need to see nothin', don't ya?"
Geez, It's enough to make me want to claim political assylum in Canada. I'm Gay, Hebrew Pagan(Jewish), Cherokee, AND I'm mentally ill. If I hear the trains coming I'm outta here!
Listening For The Clickety Clack and The Whistle,
Simcha> > I was so angered when my therapist told me this today... she asked if I wouldn't mind calling Medicaid and asking if it were true, then report back to her. She was under the impression that therapy would no longer be covered, but psychologists and psychiatrists would.
> >
> > I called Medicaid, and that's not exactly the case. Starting September 1, certain benefits will be cancelled, though I can't recall which ones... but as of October 16, Medicaid will no longer cover psychological counseling for those 21 and older! What's more, they won't even cover eyeglasses anymore!! I'm so infuriated by this... thank the gods they still will cover psychiatric services.
> >
> > Luckily I don't turn 21 till January 5, so I have a little more time with my wonderful therapist... but this is such B.S.
> >
> > Thank you so very much for ruining our economy, Mr. President.
>
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 21:42:44
In reply to Re: Medicaid cancels therapy coverage! « Ame Sans Vie, posted by Simcha on August 7, 2003, at 21:05:32
I can't say for sure, but I didn't give the national Medicaid hotline any information on what state I was in, and I assume they would have told me if CA was exempt from this.
Posted by Anonne on August 7, 2003, at 23:51:01
In reply to Re: California » SilmarilOne, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 21:42:44
> I can't say for sure, but I didn't give the national Medicaid hotline any information on what state I was in, and I assume they would have told me if CA was exempt from this.
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Hey. Never, ever, when dealing with gov't bureaucracies, local, state or federal, ASSUME that the individuals with whom you speak know exactly of what they speak. Double and triple check everything... within reason.This is brand new info for me, and I'm curious if you've followed up by checking govt' websites, calling, etc. Do you have a letter on paper from your state Medicaid dept?
I'm in Maryland, also have Medicaid as a secondary insurance, and am a tad concerned, altho' at the moment, I'm not using any Medicaid MCO (managed care org.) covered "p-docs" and therapists.
Glad you'll soon be able to vote! :)
Posted by Anonne on August 7, 2003, at 23:59:06
In reply to Re: California, posted by Anonne on August 7, 2003, at 23:51:01
Delete that "glad you'll soon be able to vote!"
I don't know where I got that one from!
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 9, 2003, at 21:28:17
In reply to Medicaid cancels therapy coverage! « Ame Sans Vie, posted by Dr. Bob on August 7, 2003, at 19:29:34
Medicaid cancelling coverage of counseling!!!!!!! » Ame Sans Vie
Posted by KimberlyDi on August 8, 2003, at 16:51:20
In reply to Medicaid cancelling coverage of counseling!!!!!!!, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 14:20:34
A democrat speaks? Health care cutbacks are happening everywhere. I just lost my therapist too after Ietria closed down their Mental Health Division. "Not profitable enough" I'm sorry this happened to you but I've been aware of the problem for 10+ years. Five years ago I lost another therapist in Fort Worth because of another Mental Health Division called Excel closed. Health insurance rates are sky-rocketing. I would blame ambulance-chasing lawyers and sue-happy people more than the president for this. Doctor's and Hospital's having to pay sky high rates for malpractice insurance and passing it along to the consumer. Companies aren't going to be able to provide health insurance coverage for their employees if this continues, not as a paid benefit anyways.
It hit me hard too. Felt like I was the only child of a divorcing couple that no one wanted custody of. My therapist offered to take me on the side with a sliding scale fee. And jeez, I don't want to start all over again with a new therapist. It's all about money.
Look around, ask around. You might be able to find some options.
Good Luck
KDi in Texas> I was so angered when my therapist told me this today... she asked if I wouldn't mind calling Medicaid and asking if it were true, then report back to her. She was under the impression that therapy would no longer be covered, but psychologists and psychiatrists would.
>
> I called Medicaid, and that's not exactly the case. Starting September 1, certain benefits will be cancelled, though I can't recall which ones... but as of October 16, Medicaid will no longer cover psychological counseling for those 21 and older! What's more, they won't even cover eyeglasses anymore!! I'm so infuriated by this... thank the gods they still will cover psychiatric services.
>
> Luckily I don't turn 21 till January 5, so I have a little more time with my wonderful therapist... but this is such B.S.
>
> Thank you so very much for ruining our economy, Mr. President.--
Re: Medicaid cancelling coverage of counseling!!!!!!!
Posted by Psychquackery on August 8, 2003, at 22:10:46
In reply to Medicaid cancelling coverage of counseling!!!!!!!, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 14:20:34
> I was so angered when my therapist told me this today... she asked if I wouldn't mind calling Medicaid and asking if it were true, then report back to her. She was under the impression that therapy would no longer be covered, but psychologists and psychiatrists would.
>
> I called Medicaid, and that's not exactly the case. Starting September 1, certain benefits will be cancelled, though I can't recall which ones... but as of October 16, Medicaid will no longer cover psychological counseling for those 21 and older! What's more, they won't even cover eyeglasses anymore!! I'm so infuriated by this... thank the gods they still will cover psychiatric services.
>
> Luckily I don't turn 21 till January 5, so I have a little more time with my wonderful therapist... but this is such B.S.
>
> Thank you so very much for ruining our economy, Mr. President.This is such fantastic news. Im so glad to read that taxpayer money wont be used anymore to pay for sessions with quacks (therapists). On the other hand, medicaid doesnt pay enough for straightforward psychiatric care of patients who have severe forms of mental illness. Thats where the taxpayer priority should be.
Thank God there is hope for the world afterall.
Igor
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Re: Medicaid cancelling coverage of counseling!!!!!!! » Psychquackery
Posted by SilmarilOne on August 9, 2003, at 2:07:18
In reply to Re: Medicaid cancelling coverage of counseling!!!!!!!, posted by Psychquackery on August 8, 2003, at 22:10:46
Medication and THERAPY in combination have the best results. In the past 10 years, I had my best year when I had a good therapist, and a psychiatrist. It was paid for by medicare/medi-cal. I now cannot find a therapist because of cutbacks, etc. and haven't been doing so well, and over the past couple of years have been hospitalized much more, which ends up costing MORE, much more, than if they just paid for therapy.
> This is such fantastic news. Im so glad to read that taxpayer money wont be used anymore to pay for sessions with quacks (therapists). On the other hand, medicaid doesnt pay enough for straightforward psychiatric care of patients who have severe forms of mental illness. Thats where the taxpayer priority should be.
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Vision-legally blind » Ame Sans Vie
Posted by Sleepy Susan on August 9, 2003, at 8:25:02
In reply to Re: Medicaid cancelling coverage of counseling!!!!!!! » Janelle, posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 7, 2003, at 15:32:42
> > I can't believe they won't cover eyeglasses anymore - geez! (maybe I'm not missing so much after all ...)
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> Yeah... fortunately for me, though, I think my current eyeglasses will do for at least another year or two. My prescription seems to get worse every year, but I think it may have leveled off finally. Without vision correction, I'm actually well over the limit (20/200) to be considered legally blind -- 20/400.
>Is that with or without correction. My oldest is 20/400, maybe worse her last time in but corrects to 20/20. I was told that legally blind is when they can't correct you beyond 20/400. Would love to know, without getting lost in an internet hunt.
Susan
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Re: Vision-legally blind
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 9, 2003, at 10:12:32
In reply to Vision-legally blind » Ame Sans Vie, posted by Sleepy Susan on August 9, 2003, at 8:25:02
20/400 is without correction -- with glasses, it's 20/20; contacts, it's 20/15. Actually though, anything over 20/200 that can't be fixed with vision correction is considered legally blind. Anything over 20/800 is considered blind.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 10, 2003, at 1:26:03
In reply to Redirected: Medicaid cancels therapy coverage!, posted by Dr. Bob on August 9, 2003, at 21:28:17
I personally find that quite offensive. I have a severe handicap that prevented me (until quite recently) from leaving home, let alone working. Are you saying you would rather I not receive the therapy I need in order to become well? Well enough so that one day I won't have to depend on taxpayers' money for my healthcare, I might add?
Please take the feelings of others into consideration when you post. I felt very dehumanized and saddened by your remarks.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 10, 2003, at 9:46:28
In reply to Redirected: Medicaid cancels therapy coverage!, posted by Dr. Bob on August 9, 2003, at 21:28:17
> quacks (therapists).
Please don't exaggerate or overgeneralize. The last time you were blocked, it was for 1 week, so this time, it's for 2.
Bob
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