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Posted by maree on June 26, 2008, at 0:15:21
I have read of people taking Oxycodine, which I presume supplements the above NT. This being so, why was it prescribed for you. I believe that it is used to treat physical pain, ratherthan emotional pain, which, since Oxycontin is the NT that stimulates the feeling of love, is puzzling to me.
My question is, to those who take it, does it make you more caring to others, more emotional?
I ask because a stroke 12 years ago has destroyed my ability to feel love for anything or anyone (from the dog who I had owned for 10 years to my partner, who was the first man I had ever fallen in love with, I did not feel emotional, either, when my mother passed away 9 years after the stroke.)
This not being able to love is putting me in a very lonely, fearful place, and makes people back off from me; since I am obviously not getting any sort of pleasure from anything in life, nobody wants to hang around me and catch my blues.
Could this medication promote feelings of love, or am I just clutching at straws.
Posted by Phillipa on June 26, 2008, at 13:20:05
In reply to Oxycontin, posted by maree on June 26, 2008, at 0:15:21
Maree do you mean oxycontin? In me when broke arm I felt happy and was joking but tolerance builts and like anything addictive same tolerance. I know what you mean though about the not feeling. I'm the same and some they say could be opiate responders. So sorry about the stroke. What other meds are you on? Phillipa
Posted by dbc on June 26, 2008, at 14:29:47
In reply to Re: Oxycontin » maree, posted by Phillipa on June 26, 2008, at 13:20:05
Opiates certainly light up your reward system and make the world a more interesting place but unfortunately like all good things it doesnt last and the withdrawal is absolutely brutal. Amphetamine is probably a more reasonable drug for this sort of thing but even then you'll eventually become tolerant and have to stop or escalate doses which is bad mojo if you dont want to become a total junkie.
Its really hard to not abuse these drugs especially when they have a profound effect on your life.
Posted by bulldog2 on June 26, 2008, at 14:50:45
In reply to Oxycontin, posted by maree on June 26, 2008, at 0:15:21
> I have read of people taking Oxycodine, which I presume supplements the above NT. This being so, why was it prescribed for you. I believe that it is used to treat physical pain, ratherthan emotional pain, which, since Oxycontin is the NT that stimulates the feeling of love, is puzzling to me.
> My question is, to those who take it, does it make you more caring to others, more emotional?
> I ask because a stroke 12 years ago has destroyed my ability to feel love for anything or anyone (from the dog who I had owned for 10 years to my partner, who was the first man I had ever fallen in love with, I did not feel emotional, either, when my mother passed away 9 years after the stroke.)
> This not being able to love is putting me in a very lonely, fearful place, and makes people back off from me; since I am obviously not getting any sort of pleasure from anything in life, nobody wants to hang around me and catch my blues.
> Could this medication promote feelings of love, or am I just clutching at straws.I think you mean oxytocin.(hormone)
Posted by Iansf on June 27, 2008, at 16:25:58
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by bulldog2 on June 26, 2008, at 14:50:45
> > since Oxycontin is the NT that stimulates the feeling of love, is puzzling to me.
> I think you mean oxytocin.(hormone)
Yes, it's oxytocin that is purported to increase a sense of openness to other people. As far as I know, oxytocin is not available commercially. As someone with social phobia, I wish it were.
Ian
Posted by cumulative on June 28, 2008, at 16:26:20
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by Iansf on June 27, 2008, at 16:25:58
check google
Posted by Horned One on June 29, 2008, at 10:43:55
In reply to Oxycontin, posted by maree on June 26, 2008, at 0:15:21
I think maree meant Oxycontin the opiate. It does indeed promote feelings of love. I was thinking the other day it feels exactly like falling in love for the first time. I take codeine because it's available in OTC painkiller products where I live. I've also taken tramadol, which had an even more intense effect - I felt like going round hugging people, not like me at all. Vets have noticed that cats and dogs given tramadol become more affectionate and loving towards their owners. I think all opiates have this effect to some degree.
Nothing increases my sociability and patience/empathy for other people like opiates. Some people have had success in getting buprenorphine from their doctors for treatment resistant depression.
-Horny
Posted by elanor roosevelt on July 4, 2008, at 19:18:04
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by Horned One on June 29, 2008, at 10:43:55
do opiates actually trigger increase in ability to experience theses emotions or merely decrease inhibitions and weaken emotional "armor"?
Posted by Quintal on July 5, 2008, at 8:35:00
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by elanor roosevelt on July 4, 2008, at 19:18:04
An increase in the ability to experience pleasure. Under the influence of opium everything seems wonderful. They don't usually cause disinhibition like benzos or alcohol do.
Q
Posted by bulldog2 on July 5, 2008, at 12:26:35
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by Quintal on July 5, 2008, at 8:35:00
> An increase in the ability to experience pleasure. Under the influence of opium everything seems wonderful. They don't usually cause disinhibition like benzos or alcohol do.
>
> QIs there a subjective difference in the effects of opium as compared to the products produced from it.
Posted by elanor roosevelt on July 5, 2008, at 13:21:30
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by bulldog2 on July 5, 2008, at 12:26:35
the ability to experience pleasure
do opiates work in the same way that trivestal does?
what actually happens to increase ability to experience pleasure?
Posted by Quintal on July 5, 2008, at 14:39:02
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by bulldog2 on July 5, 2008, at 12:26:35
I would think so, just as there are differences between the products produced from it. They all produce much the same feelings to varying degrees though.
Q
Posted by Quintal on July 5, 2008, at 14:43:11
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by elanor roosevelt on July 5, 2008, at 13:21:30
The effect is much more powerful than Trivestal, but I think it is related to a similar stimulation of the dopamine system and reward centres. The nucleus accumbens is involved. I don't know what happens exactly, but opiates make everything seem better, more tolerable and enjoyable.
Q
Posted by Sigismund on July 5, 2008, at 23:14:18
In reply to Re: Oxycontin » elanor roosevelt, posted by Quintal on July 5, 2008, at 14:43:11
Opiates can certainly make you more sociable and, as Q said, more patient.
I can remember being sufficiently chatty to be invited into people's homes to have cups of tea, and having a chat with the old lady who is watering her plants in the front garden.
The overwhelming sanity opiates give you, making you feel that you can participate in normal life.
Instant zen, in a way, at least to begin with.Your brain changes in response, and dose increases do not fix it, but that takes a fair while.
Posted by Phillipa on July 6, 2008, at 18:43:05
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by Sigismund on July 5, 2008, at 23:14:18
Sigi how many years as If you're getting old why would it matter to me at least. I know that percocet one tab made me feel happy. PJ
Posted by Sigismund on July 7, 2008, at 3:19:55
In reply to Re: Oxycontin » Sigismund, posted by Phillipa on July 6, 2008, at 18:43:05
You wanna number, PJ?
At the rate of one Percocet a day?
Ages, as long as you are prepared to put up with less effect than you would like, and don't increase the dose.
I wouldn't worry, if I were you.
Of course, I increased the dose.
Posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2008, at 19:32:27
In reply to Re: Oxycontin » Phillipa, posted by Sigismund on July 7, 2008, at 3:19:55
Sigi on your own or with a doc's permission and how long did the initial dose work for. Thanks and Love PJ
Posted by Sigismund on July 7, 2008, at 20:57:18
In reply to Re: Oxycontin » Sigismund, posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2008, at 19:32:27
Doctors didn't have anything to do with my use of it.
Is Oxycontin just oxycodone?
There are various preparations.
Hydrochloride and pectonate are two that come to mind, and then there is slow release.It's relatively short acting.
Posted by Snowie on July 18, 2008, at 17:33:27
In reply to Oxycontin, posted by maree on June 26, 2008, at 0:15:21
I posted this on the Med Board, but I'll post it here too:
Oxytocin is a wonderful hormone. I haven't felt so much peace and harmony since I induced lactation a few years ago, which naturally increases oxytocin, and has greatly diminished my social anxiety. Of course, inducing lactation to help with social anxiety probably isn't recommended for men, and it wasn't the reason I induced lactation, but it sure has been a very pleasant side effect, and I recommend it to any woman suffering from social anxiety. It's also a very nice way for a woman to bond with her significant other. ;-)
Snowie
Posted by Snowie on July 18, 2008, at 18:52:16
In reply to Re: Oxycontin, posted by Snowie on July 18, 2008, at 17:33:27
Oops....sorry. I thought this thread was about the hormone, Oxytocin.
Snowie
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