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Posted by PCB on September 10, 2020, at 21:06:12
I took one last chance to get off Nardil because the weight gain is causing hip arthritis, elevated BP and elevate sugar soon, I thought if I quit my stressful job and got out of my stressful city, my depression would be better. Those things did not help. My last idea was trying effexor and Deplin, and without a stressful job and city, it might work. My depression is the same and I really doubt effexor/Deplin will work in light that the job, city change did not help.
So I guess its back to Nardil, a hip replacement, high blood pressure and diabetes. I am shocked that my over 30 different medications trials, ECT, TMS, psychotherapy, exercise, etc .... only Nardil works. I am not ungrateful, but am shocked Nardil is causing more medical problems that are not my fault. Im sure people look at me and say I must be unhealthy with my weight .... but I actually starve myself daily to keep my weight as low as possible. So sad
Posted by Stargazer2 on September 10, 2020, at 22:44:27
In reply to Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by PCB on September 10, 2020, at 21:06:12
Hi PCB😉
I hope others can help you with the side effects of Nardil
Knowing that weight gain is a big one.
Unfortunately adding meds that might help with Nardil are not sanctioned and limit treatment options.
I agree that the limitations on treatment is the worst
Limitation of Nardil. I have ADD but can never treat it effectively because of most doctors reluctance to try stimulants along with it. Im on Ritalin but a very low dose(5mg) and only the immediate release med. Too risky for
a longer acting stun although others here say they take Vyvanase etc.
What is the best way to get your doc to prescribed drugs contraindicated with MAOa?
PCB...Have you decided to abort your trial of a new replacement med for Nardil?
Posted by creepy on September 13, 2020, at 19:20:37
In reply to Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by PCB on September 10, 2020, at 21:06:12
I would investigate topiramate for the blood sugar and weight issues.
Its helped me in the past with appetite from antidepressants. Supposedly it helps with insulin sensitivity as well.
cinnamon, vitamin D3 and chromium picolinate can help a little with blood sugar.
Posted by Lamdage22 on September 14, 2020, at 1:25:34
In reply to Re: Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by creepy on September 13, 2020, at 19:20:37
Any side effects?
> I would investigate topiramate for the blood sugar and weight issues.
> Its helped me in the past with appetite from antidepressants. Supposedly it helps with insulin sensitivity as well.
> cinnamon, vitamin D3 and chromium picolinate can help a little with blood sugar.
Posted by linkadge on September 16, 2020, at 18:36:47
In reply to Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by PCB on September 10, 2020, at 21:06:12
I'm not sure if metformin is an option. It can help with medication induced weight gain. I know some doctors who use it with antipsychotics with prediabetes.
Linkadge
Posted by creepy on September 30, 2020, at 3:31:00
In reply to Re: Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by Lamdage22 on September 14, 2020, at 1:25:34
oh yeah theres side effects. tingling / numbness in random places for a little bit. maybe some coordination and cognitive issues depending on dose.
50mg and I get decent appetite reduction but I have problems with word finding all the time. its irritating. But the depression medications all seem to cause weight gain.
Posted by porkpiehat on October 25, 2020, at 21:54:12
In reply to Re: Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by creepy on September 30, 2020, at 3:31:00
> oh yeah theres side effects. tingling / numbness in random places for a little bit. maybe some coordination and cognitive issues depending on dose.
> 50mg and I get decent appetite reduction but I have problems with word finding all the time. its irritating. But the depression medications all seem to cause weight gain.
>What were you taking the topomax with? Did you find any emotional benefit from taking it?
Posted by creepy on October 26, 2020, at 7:35:04
In reply to Re: Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery » creepy, posted by porkpiehat on October 25, 2020, at 21:54:12
topiramate with several SSRIs over the years.
I didnt have any emotional benefits on it. Ive tried a couple AED's and they dont do anything for me since im unipolar.Apparently there is a warning for anticholinergic interaction with topiramate + MAOIs. The warning was about hyperthermia I think.
I only needed 25-50mg for an appetite effect. might be below the threshold needed to be a problem?
Posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2020, at 22:26:09
In reply to Re: Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by creepy on October 26, 2020, at 7:35:04
Do you get weight loss on that dose?
Posted by creepy on January 20, 2021, at 15:49:36
In reply to Re: Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by Lamdage22 on December 17, 2020, at 22:26:09
It makes you less interested in eating carbs. something about that reward system that goes into overdrive on a lot of meds.
I can lose weight on this with minimal effort. problem is right now I dont have any effort left lol.
Posted by SLS on January 26, 2021, at 8:22:06
In reply to Re: Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by creepy on January 20, 2021, at 15:49:36
> It makes you less interested in eating carbs. something about that reward system that goes into overdrive on a lot of meds.
> I can lose weight on this with minimal effort. problem is right now I dont have any effort left lol.I have been on Nardil several times. For me, Nardil causes me to crave carbohydrates - especially bread. In the past, I have gained weight on Nardil. My doctor suggested that I try to eat only when hungry rather than eating out of habit or mistaking cravings for hunger. I've been taking Nardil for 9 months, and I have actually lost weight. If I were to eat now the way I did when I successfully lost weight, I think I would be able to lose more weight on Nardil. Abilify is the drug that put all of the extra weight on me (50 lbs. / 22.6 kilograms). The problem that I see described by the majority of people is that when they stop taking Abilify, the extra weight does not come off automatically as it does with many other psychotropics. I hope that if I work to lose the extra weight from Abilify, that the weight gain doesn't reappear once I return to a normal 1500 to 1800 calories per day.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on January 26, 2021, at 8:22:19
In reply to Re: Nardil Replacement Failure, Gastric Surgery, posted by creepy on January 20, 2021, at 15:49:36
> It makes you less interested in eating carbs. something about that reward system that goes into overdrive on a lot of meds.
> I can lose weight on this with minimal effort. problem is right now I dont have any effort left lol.I have been on Nardil several times. For me, Nardil causes me to crave carbohydrates - especially bread. In the past, I have gained weight on Nardil. My doctor suggested that I try to eat only when hungry rather than eating out of habit or mistaking cravings for hunger. I've been taking Nardil for 9 months, and I have actually lost weight. If I were to eat now the way I did when I successfully lost weight, I think I would be able to lose more weight on Nardil. Abilify is the drug that put all of the extra weight on me (50 lbs. / 22.6 kilograms). The problem that I see described by the majority of people is that when they stop taking Abilify, the extra weight does not come off automatically as it does with many other psychotropics. I hope that if I work to lose the extra weight from Abilify, that the weight gain doesn't reappear once I return to a normal 1500 to 1800 calories per day.
- Scott
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