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Posted by SLS on November 16, 2018, at 17:34:48
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read., posted by Schlepo on November 16, 2018, at 12:15:52
> > > maybe go back on Parnate
> >
> > That's the plan.
> >
> > My greatest fear is that I will not respond to Parnate now.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> SLS, you have always been the pillar of this community, please don't fall on us.What a wonderful thing to say!
I'll try not to.
Thanks.
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 20, 2018, at 4:54:50
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read. » Schlepo, posted by SLS on November 16, 2018, at 17:34:48
Just give the Parnate a fair trial and add an antipsychotic if needed. Have you ever tried amisulpride? I havent. They say its mood brightening.
Posted by SLS on November 20, 2018, at 6:10:12
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read., posted by Lamdage22 on November 20, 2018, at 4:54:50
Hi, Lambdage.
> Just give the Parnate a fair trial and add an antipsychotic if needed. Have you ever tried amisulpride? I havent. They say its mood brightening.
I tried sulpiride, a drug that is similar to amisulpride. It was neutral.
I am trying to take things slow with Parnate. I don't want to trigger another negative reaction.
I will have fish oil and Cerefolin to work with. I haven't decided when to add them.
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 20, 2018, at 13:56:43
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read. » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on November 20, 2018, at 6:10:12
You never tried fishoil before?? It makes me worse in an odd way however i do take a little bit of it in the morning. The low dosage is ok but higher is no good.
How long did it take before you saw an improvement the last time on Parnate? Yeah, you need to be careful with this stuff.
Posted by SLS on November 20, 2018, at 21:07:40
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read., posted by Lamdage22 on November 20, 2018, at 13:56:43
> You never tried fishoil before?? It makes me worse in an odd way however i do take a little bit of it in the morning. The low dosage is ok but higher is no good.
My sister just bought me some fish oil from Sam's Club. I don't want to take it at this point.
> How long did it take before you saw an improvement the last time on Parnate? Yeah, you need to be careful with this stuff.
Well, I had been taking 80 mg/day. I am starting low and moving up slowly. I began at 10 mg/day. I just started taking 30 mg/day today. It might be a few weeks before I see any significant improvement.
I think I'll look into testosterone and thyroid as you suggested. I have to make an appointment with a GP.
I appreciate your help.
How are you?
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on November 20, 2018, at 22:22:36
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read. » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on November 20, 2018, at 21:07:40
Scott medscape had an article on testosterone and depression so you seriously might want to get your levels checked as it was successful for a lot of men. Phillipa
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 21, 2018, at 0:58:45
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read. » SLS, posted by Phillipa on November 20, 2018, at 22:22:36
> Scott medscape had an article on testosterone and depression so you seriously might want to get your levels checked as it was successful for a lot of men. Phillipa
Also dont forget to get Human Growth Hormone checked!
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 21, 2018, at 6:19:29
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read. » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on November 20, 2018, at 21:07:40
I am wellish thanks for asking. I am looking into analytic therapy. Not psychoanalysis. Just once a week. I like what i hear about it. I always wanted to get to the root of my problems but i never was well enough to do it. If a house is rotten from the inside, you can put new plaster on but it wont solve the long term problem. I want to fix the ground work.
I have 5 sessions with a psychologist at a walk in psychoanalysis place and they can help me find a depth psychologist.
Right now we are figuring out if this type of therapy is beneficial for me!
Posted by bleauberry on November 22, 2018, at 9:50:20
In reply to I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read., posted by SLS on November 13, 2018, at 9:57:20
So sorry Scott! Heartbreaking. Millions of others suffer the same.
You know where I stand....just because the drug route hasn't been all that friendly doesn't mean there are no more ideas...I experienced the same thing....foggy, tired, no interest, meds worked weird if at all, years passed, decades passed....every new idea just fell short.
Anti-inflammation. Anti-microbial. Anti-toxicity. Within those 3 broad categories combined is the rejuvenation and rescue we all so desperately want and need. This approach is not mainstream and that is really a shame.
I think if you just assume or pretend that you have a tick born disease even if you are convinced you don't, then you improve remarkably. If you treat it as if you did, with 2-3 intra- and extra- cellular antibiotics, with a half dozen herbs specific for various angles of inflammation, and top that off with herbs and supplements to help remove endotoxins, junk, accumulated whatever....I think in 9 months to 3 years of doing this you are a new man.
There is no doubt you have given the doctors plenty of opportunity, probably more than they deserved, based on their unsatisfactory performance and inability to move the ball down the field. They had a few good plays but no scores.
You need to take the steering wheel away from them and drive yourself. That is what I did and that is my opinion. I am well aware that 90% of patients will not manage their own care. But still, I feel it is important that they at least be aware there are better ways.
I've had years to think about your situation. Without any evidence, I would confidently venture an educated guess that you are suffering the longterm symptoms of an unseen microbial invasion in the brain by intracellular pathogens such as mycoplasma or similar. Not a direct lyme infection, but one of the co-infections, which are the ones which really wreak havoc in the mood center. They set up shop in the linings of the brain and - in my opinion - are directly implicated in things like dementia and alzheimers - 100% ofd autopsied ALZ brains have been shown to have pathogenic bacteria. I won't say they are from ticks. Because it doesn't matter where they came from. You can get them from cats, mice, fleas, and mosquitos too.
Anyway, my opinion is that your prognosis improves dramatically if you close a long chapter and open a fresh new one.
It's hard to do that with depression and brain fog. The best assistance would be someone who considers themselves to be L.L.M.D. and also uses supplements/herbs in addition to ABX. Find that person and you are on your way with real authentic chances for recovery. Healing will only come with a wide open mind that does not prejudge any treatments in advance, but rather, embraces them and tries them.
I only say all this because I've seen in multiple times, experienced it myself, and want to help, desperately I want to help. It is not fair that I got better and most others didn't. The only difference is that I took a holistic route while everyone else only took a psychiatric prescription route.
You can do it. You can get better. I am 100% confident of that.
Start with one small step. Whatever that is. Don't overwhelm. But definitely turn the page and step into new territory.
Posted by bleauberry on November 22, 2018, at 11:22:39
In reply to I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read., posted by SLS on November 13, 2018, at 9:57:20
We're all brain damaged. The drugs didn't do that. The brain damage was already there. That's where our symptoms come from. Some of our meds have built-in side benefits such as anti-inflammation or anti-microbial. But they are also chemicals that change genes and brain receptors, some permanently, some temporarily.
Brain damage is a given. We all had that before our first dose of antidepressants.
So the idea now should be to reverse brain damage as much as we possibly can. With a shotgun approach, a blanket approach, because it is impossible, absolutely impossible, to identify in any of us the exact actual thing that is the problem. So we have to cover all the possibilities in a broad sweep, knowing that somewhere within that sweep, we address the actual problem, even if we don't know what it is, and we never will.
Scott I want to help put a visual into your mind of what the kind of treatment I am referring to looks like.
You are on 2 antibiotics, sometimes 3, maybe even a 4th one a few days a week, and they are chosen to hit extra-cellular, intra-cellular, and cystic forms, gram negative, gram positive, all at the same time. Your doctor switches things around with new ABX every other month or so. You cycle around through various ABX cocktails. They know how to do that. It's what they do as their expertise. They know that psychiatric symptoms of all kinds are likely to improve, even without good explanations as to why exactly.
Nobody will get better with just ABX. You are also taking digestive enzymes which help to digest food molecules before they get a chance to slip undigested through intestinal lining into the blood - the symptoms of 'leaky gut' are very common in American diets and in chronic illness. Brain fog and depression and allergies or sensitivities are common symptoms of that. Obviously if that is a cause of someone's depression, then no amount of psychiatric drugs is going to really help that. So we start with food and we eliminate common easy things known to depress. For that reason you eat gluten free and as much as you can afford, you eat organic. You aggressively avoid trace amounts of pesticides, herbicides, and genetically modified foods.
You take a professional multivitamin. For example Life Extension brand. Where you get the important co-factors such as the methyls and the picolinates and the p5ps and etc - in chronic illness OTC vitamins are sometimes not absorbed or not able to be metabolized correctly, due to genetic snippets, so we need out nutrients to be pre-metabolized and ready to absorb.
Fish oil is pretty much given for everybody, healthy or not, symptoms or not. One to 4 capsules. I wouldn't look at it is therapeutic. Look at it as a base, part of the ground floor of a building.
Your inflammation supplements include Curcumin, Resveratrol derived from Polygonum Cupsidatum (Japanese Knotweed) not from grapes, Andrographis, and others. But just those 3 can do a very lot of good. They have many other mechanisms also, including anti-microbial of all kinds, heart protection, brain protection.
You take 2 or 3 adaptogens because they have wide spectrum multi-faceted mechanisms that help you with brain fog, mood, energy, endurance, and interest. They are not miracles but you definitely feel worse without them. Rhodiola rosea, Ashwagandha, and Cordyceps are the 3 I prefer and take. They are sort of like wide spectrum mixed agonist/antagonists at a bunch of different sites and genes, so they tend to blindly balance whatever is out of balance.
Heart health is under attack with chronic disease, stress and failed psychiatry. So you take Co-Q10 and hawthorn herb, both of which can help with all the other stuff as well. Multi-faceted, multi mechanisms.
Brain fog. Vinpocetine is made of the periwinkle plant and can help. The best thing though is to remove toxicity from the body to clear the brain. The above anti-inflammatories help to do that, but you take as-needed either activated charcoal caps or bentonite clay or both, to absorb all sorts of crap from your body and gut, especially the fat soluble stuff that keeps getting recirculated.
For detoxing you want to take N-Acetyl-Cysteine and you aren't taking it because a clinical study says it can help depression. That isn't it. You are taking it because it is the raw ingredient to make more of your own Glutathione, the body's main detox, and you are also taking Liposomal glutathione. People who can afford I.V. glutathione experience profound and immediate improvement. You might even consider doing that as a test just to see if toxic issues make that much of a different. (they do)
To stay well I take about 30 of these things. But a dozen or so is plenty good. It costs me about a couple hundred dollars a month. I have flare-ups now and then and still experience herxheimer reactions now and then, though both are sporadic and rare. The depression I always had is directly correlated to flare-ups and herx, which feel the same, and when I don't have those, I don't have depression either. When I get those, it brings me back to the sick psychiatric puppy I used to be.
You would no longer study scientific studies to make your substance choices, but rather, as a hobby. Because everything that is going to work for you is not provable. But then, neither is anything provable with Effexor or Paxil or anything else. It's all an educated guess, best shot, toss a coin, see what happens.
We just want to get the odds more in our favor. I for one believe it is impossible to do that with just psychiatric prescriptions or common herbs. Not possible. In my opinion.
So anyway, in a hypothetical world where Scott embarks on a new journey of healing, that is a real life example of what your daily consumption of healing substances would look like. You add those to whatever psych med helps at least somewhat, excluding the MAOIS since the drug-herb risk might be too much risk.
Check out Marty Ross, M.D. online. He has lots of useful information written in plain language. Don't call it lyme. The treatments are the same whether it is or not, and quite frankly, we will never know. If you were riddled with anxiety and not just depression I would be confident pointing a finger at Bartonella. If you had unexplained red spots on your body and you have night sweats a lot, I would be confident of Babesia. Based on your history I am fairly confident of Mycoplasma or a virus-based thing, both of which improve if you treat them as if they were lyme.
Just keep in mind that the primary symptom of any of these stealth infections or toxicities is psychiatric, and obviously treatment resistant because we are treating the wrong stuff.
I would be willing to bet $1000 you feel much better 2 years from now than you do now. But I would also be willing to up that bet to $10,000 that you fail to improve if you stay exclusively with psychiatric approaches. Very confident of what I say. It's just too bad that ideas which actually work are met with stiff resistance and pessimism. That is normal, unfortunately. I think you have the strength and the wisdom to bust out of that trap. Or else I wouldn't be spending so much time sharing so much info.
Posted by SLS on November 22, 2018, at 11:58:36
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read., posted by bleauberry on November 22, 2018, at 9:50:20
Hi, Bleauberry.
It was kind of you to write this.
I'm glad to hear that you continue to feel better. Do you have any residual symptoms?
I have had extend trials of doxycycline and minocycline. I improved on minocycline, but not doxycycline. Most of the things I have read indicates that minocycline is more anti-inflammatory.
It is cruel that someone with severe depression isn't well enough to get well.
- Scott
> So sorry Scott! Heartbreaking. Millions of others suffer the same.
>
> You know where I stand....just because the drug route hasn't been all that friendly doesn't mean there are no more ideas...I experienced the same thing....foggy, tired, no interest, meds worked weird if at all, years passed, decades passed....every new idea just fell short.
>
> Anti-inflammation. Anti-microbial. Anti-toxicity. Within those 3 broad categories combined is the rejuvenation and rescue we all so desperately want and need. This approach is not mainstream and that is really a shame.
>
> I think if you just assume or pretend that you have a tick born disease even if you are convinced you don't, then you improve remarkably. If you treat it as if you did, with 2-3 intra- and extra- cellular antibiotics, with a half dozen herbs specific for various angles of inflammation, and top that off with herbs and supplements to help remove endotoxins, junk, accumulated whatever....I think in 9 months to 3 years of doing this you are a new man.
>
> There is no doubt you have given the doctors plenty of opportunity, probably more than they deserved, based on their unsatisfactory performance and inability to move the ball down the field. They had a few good plays but no scores.
>
> You need to take the steering wheel away from them and drive yourself. That is what I did and that is my opinion. I am well aware that 90% of patients will not manage their own care. But still, I feel it is important that they at least be aware there are better ways.
>
> I've had years to think about your situation. Without any evidence, I would confidently venture an educated guess that you are suffering the longterm symptoms of an unseen microbial invasion in the brain by intracellular pathogens such as mycoplasma or similar. Not a direct lyme infection, but one of the co-infections, which are the ones which really wreak havoc in the mood center. They set up shop in the linings of the brain and - in my opinion - are directly implicated in things like dementia and alzheimers - 100% ofd autopsied ALZ brains have been shown to have pathogenic bacteria. I won't say they are from ticks. Because it doesn't matter where they came from. You can get them from cats, mice, fleas, and mosquitos too.
>
> Anyway, my opinion is that your prognosis improves dramatically if you close a long chapter and open a fresh new one.
>
> It's hard to do that with depression and brain fog. The best assistance would be someone who considers themselves to be L.L.M.D. and also uses supplements/herbs in addition to ABX. Find that person and you are on your way with real authentic chances for recovery. Healing will only come with a wide open mind that does not prejudge any treatments in advance, but rather, embraces them and tries them.
>
> I only say all this because I've seen in multiple times, experienced it myself, and want to help, desperately I want to help. It is not fair that I got better and most others didn't. The only difference is that I took a holistic route while everyone else only took a psychiatric prescription route.
>
> You can do it. You can get better. I am 100% confident of that.
>
> Start with one small step. Whatever that is. Don't overwhelm. But definitely turn the page and step into new territory.
Posted by PCB on November 25, 2018, at 0:14:59
In reply to I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read., posted by SLS on November 13, 2018, at 9:57:20
Dear Scott,
Your posts have kept me alive in the past when I was struggling. Hope this can even provide you with a fraction of the help you have given me over the past 20 years.
For me, Nardil 60 mg left me hypomanic and then always pooped out. Only with lithium 450, lamictal 50 mg and decreasing Nardil to 50 mg, did it reliably always work. That got me 50% improved. What gave me another 25% improvement came from James Phelps Psycheducation and Layne Cornell's Bipolar and Alive. And I apologize, you are a seasoned veteran with mood treatments and probably have done this all before. But this is what worked for me
1. Stopped all caffeinated drinks/coffee
2. Sleep from 10 to 6 AM every night (use a Fitbit to track my sleep)
3. Meditate 10 minutes at 8 PM every night using Headspace App
4. Read positive books like Sully's "Miracle on the Hudson" from 8:20 to 9:00 PM
5. Gratitude Journal from 9:00 to 9:15. Write 3 three things that bothered me that day down but in a positive light. See how all things can be positive
6. Lights out at 9:15, meds at 9:30 and head on pillow by 9:45 to be asleep by 10 PM. Can use the yellow blue blocker glasses if needed
7. Fish Oil did not seem to help me as much as fish. I now eat a can of sardines for lunch and wild salmon for dinner. This has helped tremendously. This has been going for 1.5 years, my mercury level was undetectable 2 months ago.
8. Reading the Art of Happiness by Dialia Lama every 2 months or so
9. Vitamin D helped a little bit, but walking outside a long a I can stand helped me the most. I try to get least 1 hour of outside time even in the winterSo from me, my foundation is nardil and a mood stabilizer. But I consider 8 hours of sleep same time every night, outdoor sunlight, fish high in omega and meditation as part of my daily medication as well.
Hope even a fraction of this helps. Hey Scott, you have alot of people routing for you! Hang in there!
Paul
The Facebook Messenger GuyP.S. and avoid stimulating movies, news articles, pop culture and returning to church has help a lot too
> The last five months have been agonizing.
>
> I discontinued Parnate five months ago because the improvement it produced was inadequate and well below 50%. Parnate seemed to be a dead end. I remained unemployable. Reading and memory impairments continued. I haven't read a book since 2001. I was taking Effexor 300 mg/day at the time. The last book previous to that was in 1987 while taking Parnate + desipramine. I rarely read anything at all.
>
> I experienced a horrendous rebound depression after discontinuing Parnate. Unfortunately, my impatience caused me to taper from 80 mg/day in only two weeks. Did this damage my brain? I don't know. After waiting two weeks, I began taking Trintellix. My depression lifted a bit, but then I began to feel weird. I was in a fog and didn't feel like myself. So, I moved on to Effexor. I reacted to it in a similar fashion at only 37.5 mg/day, even though I had been okay at 300 mg/day previously. I then went to my backup plan - Nardil. A few years back, I was taking 90 mg/day. My response was only partial, though. I again started taking Nardil a few weeks ago at 7.5 mg/day. By the time I arrived at 60 mg/day, I was again hit with weird cognitive effects that left me feeling incoherent and depressed.
>
> My doctor agreed that it made sense for me to return to Parnate and then go for TMS magnetic treatments. I am very scared. What if my brain has been affected by these drug exposures in such a way that I will be unable to tolerate Parnate? Will Parnate now produce a severe brain-fog? What then? Suicide?
>
> I have run out of ideas.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by PCB on November 25, 2018, at 7:39:53
In reply to I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read., posted by SLS on November 13, 2018, at 9:57:20
Oh, by the way! I have gone through several periods where I was convinced nardil would not work again after an antidepressant trial. But for some reason it alway did return to full efficacy as long as I had low dose lithium on board. I hope this is true with you and Parnate. Then fish, meditation, strick sleep schedule and graditude journal seem to make my brain more malleable, fluid, stronger and capable of reading. But any sleep change, extreme stress, diet change put my brain back to mush. Hope this helps even a little
Posted by SLS on November 25, 2018, at 8:33:04
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read. » SLS, posted by PCB on November 25, 2018, at 0:14:59
Hi, Paul.
Thank you for such wonderful and helpful suggestions. You are right about everything.
:-)
Today is better - so far.
- Scott> Dear Scott,
>
> Your posts have kept me alive in the past when I was struggling. Hope this can even provide you with a fraction of the help you have given me over the past 20 years.
>
> For me, Nardil 60 mg left me hypomanic and then always pooped out. Only with lithium 450, lamictal 50 mg and decreasing Nardil to 50 mg, did it reliably always work. That got me 50% improved. What gave me another 25% improvement came from James Phelps Psycheducation and Layne Cornell's Bipolar and Alive. And I apologize, you are a seasoned veteran with mood treatments and probably have done this all before. But this is what worked for me
>
> 1. Stopped all caffeinated drinks/coffee
> 2. Sleep from 10 to 6 AM every night (use a Fitbit to track my sleep)
> 3. Meditate 10 minutes at 8 PM every night using Headspace App
> 4. Read positive books like Sully's "Miracle on the Hudson" from 8:20 to 9:00 PM
> 5. Gratitude Journal from 9:00 to 9:15. Write 3 three things that bothered me that day down but in a positive light. See how all things can be positive
> 6. Lights out at 9:15, meds at 9:30 and head on pillow by 9:45 to be asleep by 10 PM. Can use the yellow blue blocker glasses if needed
> 7. Fish Oil did not seem to help me as much as fish. I now eat a can of sardines for lunch and wild salmon for dinner. This has helped tremendously. This has been going for 1.5 years, my mercury level was undetectable 2 months ago.
> 8. Reading the Art of Happiness by Dialia Lama every 2 months or so
> 9. Vitamin D helped a little bit, but walking outside a long a I can stand helped me the most. I try to get least 1 hour of outside time even in the winter
>
> So from me, my foundation is nardil and a mood stabilizer. But I consider 8 hours of sleep same time every night, outdoor sunlight, fish high in omega and meditation as part of my daily medication as well.
>
> Hope even a fraction of this helps. Hey Scott, you have alot of people routing for you! Hang in there!
>
> Paul
> The Facebook Messenger Guy
>
> P.S. and avoid stimulating movies, news articles, pop culture and returning to church has help a lot too
>
>
> > The last five months have been agonizing.
> >
> > I discontinued Parnate five months ago because the improvement it produced was inadequate and well below 50%. Parnate seemed to be a dead end. I remained unemployable. Reading and memory impairments continued. I haven't read a book since 2001. I was taking Effexor 300 mg/day at the time. The last book previous to that was in 1987 while taking Parnate + desipramine. I rarely read anything at all.
> >
> > I experienced a horrendous rebound depression after discontinuing Parnate. Unfortunately, my impatience caused me to taper from 80 mg/day in only two weeks. Did this damage my brain? I don't know. After waiting two weeks, I began taking Trintellix. My depression lifted a bit, but then I began to feel weird. I was in a fog and didn't feel like myself. So, I moved on to Effexor. I reacted to it in a similar fashion at only 37.5 mg/day, even though I had been okay at 300 mg/day previously. I then went to my backup plan - Nardil. A few years back, I was taking 90 mg/day. My response was only partial, though. I again started taking Nardil a few weeks ago at 7.5 mg/day. By the time I arrived at 60 mg/day, I was again hit with weird cognitive effects that left me feeling incoherent and depressed.
> >
> > My doctor agreed that it made sense for me to return to Parnate and then go for TMS magnetic treatments. I am very scared. What if my brain has been affected by these drug exposures in such a way that I will be unable to tolerate Parnate? Will Parnate now produce a severe brain-fog? What then? Suicide?
> >
> > I have run out of ideas.
> >
> > Thanks for reading.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
Posted by Jeroen on November 29, 2018, at 5:54:26
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read. » PCB, posted by SLS on November 25, 2018, at 8:33:04
ive got the prescription for Saphris today I hope
I get better cuz im also at the end of my ropeive explored so many treatments, i care about you too, just going trough a very tuff time just like.
Sarcosine has reversed brain damage in me and a polish unversity study studies this amino acid, let me know if you already tried it? ill give you the link.
Can i split the 5 mg saphris tablet in half 2.5 mg to start? :)
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 29, 2018, at 5:56:23
In reply to to Scott, posted by Jeroen on November 29, 2018, at 5:54:26
What happened with the antibiotic? Did it worsen you?
Posted by Jeroen on November 29, 2018, at 6:31:49
In reply to Re: to Scott, posted by Lamdage22 on November 29, 2018, at 5:56:23
No doxy didn't worsen and only little better. Mino did worsen put me to shock after 3 days cured from schizophrenia
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 29, 2018, at 6:34:25
In reply to Re: to Scott, posted by Jeroen on November 29, 2018, at 6:31:49
So what happened? Why are you planning to take Saphris?
Posted by SLS on November 29, 2018, at 10:27:32
In reply to to Scott, posted by Jeroen on November 29, 2018, at 5:54:26
> ive got the prescription for Saphris today I hope
> I get better cuz im also at the end of my ropeI woke up thinking that I can't take anymore of this. Not one more day. I have suffered so much over the last 6 months. Lots of weird and painful stuff. I'm feeling a little better on Parnate 40 mg/day. However, my initial reaction to it was not positive. It was very much like my reactions to Trintellix, Effexor, and Nardil.
> Sarcosine has reversed brain damage in me and a polish unversity study studies this amino acid, let me know if you already tried it? ill give you the link.
I'll look into sarcosine.
> Can i split the 5 mg saphris tablet in half 2.5 mg to start?
The manufacturer says to not split them. I don't know why.
- Scott
Posted by Jeroen on November 29, 2018, at 10:45:02
In reply to Re: to Scott, posted by Lamdage22 on November 29, 2018, at 6:34:25
Nothing works and i have a gambling problem on abilify, its been proven, my doctor and I want to try something else then abilify, currently its duo therapy before mono on Saphris
I HOPE SAPHRIS WILL HELP like the abilify and no too much side effects
Posted by Jeroen on November 29, 2018, at 11:45:13
In reply to Re: to Scott » Jeroen, posted by SLS on November 29, 2018, at 10:27:32
www.brainvitaminz.com its an amino acid and if you take it a few months as directed it can reverse brain damage and it also works for negative symptoms and depression
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 29, 2018, at 12:23:13
In reply to Re: to Lamdage22, posted by Jeroen on November 29, 2018, at 10:45:02
I think Saphris is a good move. Ive heard about the gambling problem. It sucks. Its a very bad addiction to have! Good luck with Saphris and everything else
Posted by Prefect on December 9, 2018, at 17:04:48
In reply to I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read., posted by SLS on November 13, 2018, at 9:57:20
SLS did you quite trintellix cold turkey? I made the same mistake 5 days ago and I gte brain zaps every few moment or so. No idea how to stop them.
Posted by SLS on December 10, 2018, at 11:34:51
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read. » SLS, posted by Prefect on December 9, 2018, at 17:04:48
> SLS did you quite trintellix cold turkey? I made the same mistake 5 days ago and I gte brain zaps every few moment or so. No idea how to stop them.
Wow. I'm sorry to hear that. Yes, I quit taking Trintellix abruptly. I didn't get the brain zaps, though. It is hard to say how it affected me. My brain was very upset because I didn't taper Parnate gradually enough. I'm sure that my experience with Trintellix didn't help.
Why did you stop taking Trintellix? What dosage did you take and for how long?
- Scott
Posted by Prefect on December 10, 2018, at 21:44:52
In reply to Re: I feel like I am brain damaged. Please read. » Prefect, posted by SLS on December 10, 2018, at 11:34:51
I was taking 20 mg for 3-4 months. It was likely stupid decision. I stopped taking it because it's not doing anything. I reinstated it a couple of days ago and the zaps have somewhat reduced. I'm also taking 2 mg abilify which I stopped abruptly; Maybe I should go the other direction and jack up Abilify to 5-6 mg to see if it;ll be more effective. I have innertention with anixety and lack of motivation, head tremor, unsteadiness, cognitivev issues, all of which I was put on thiese meds for. I should have stayed on Luvox. It's a mess.
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