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Posted by Tabitha on September 16, 2016, at 16:31:59
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)? » SLS, posted by Hana on September 16, 2016, at 9:39:42
> P.S I'm taking Brintellix now. Mild effect on anxiety. No side effects but doesn't help with anhedonia. I actually feel Its making it worse.Hi, I just wondered if
1. could the anhedonia be a side-effect of the brintellix?
2. did you discontinue the SSRI rapidly? People that talk about PAWS say that one remedy is to go back on the med, then taper off it more slowly
Posted by SLS on September 16, 2016, at 17:07:23
In reply to Re: Lou's response-poster joins the pack, posted by Hana on September 16, 2016, at 14:40:01
> Anyway, I'm not gonna reply to you any further.
:-)
That's the idea. A troll must be ignored as much as possible.
If you should find yourself replying to a troll, please make sure that the subject line is returned to the original wording without the name of the troll appearing in it.
Thank you.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 16, 2016, at 20:47:14
In reply to Thank you - Our trolls can be quite challenging. » Hana, posted by SLS on September 16, 2016, at 17:07:23
> > Anyway, I'm not gonna reply to you any further.
>
> :-)
>
> That's the idea. A troll must be ignored as much as possible.
>
> If you should find yourself replying to a troll, please make sure that the subject line is returned to the original wording without the name of the troll appearing in it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> - ScottFriends,
Scott here says that I must be ignored. That statement is against the rules here and has been determined to be uncivil. Yet today, Mr. Hsiung allows Scott favor and provides him with immunity from his enforcement policy.
By Scott telling you what you must do, does that take away your freedom to respond by your own determination? Do you loose your identity as a person that makes their own choices? Then is Scott telling you what you must do an unsound psychological practice? And is it supportive?
My friends, step out of the darkness into the light of reason. Think on your own. The tragedy here is that people could be killed by obeying Scott. for they could discard what I could bring to them that could save their lives and obey Scott thinking that they are doing what is supportive as Hsiung allows the hate to flourish.
Lou
Posted by Hana on September 17, 2016, at 13:06:44
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)? » Hana, posted by Tabitha on September 16, 2016, at 16:31:59
>
> > P.S I'm taking Brintellix now. Mild effect on anxiety. No side effects but doesn't help with anhedonia. I actually feel Its making it worse.
>
> Hi, I just wondered if
>
> 1. could the anhedonia be a side-effect of the brintellix?
>
> 2. did you discontinue the SSRI rapidly? People that talk about PAWS say that one remedy is to go back on the med, then taper off it more slowly
>
>
>
1- The leaflet only lists side effects that are physical. It says B treats major depressive disorder.
Wow I found someone with the same exact issue.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20140512/msgs/1066214.html2- Tapering off SSRI slowly made WD symptoms less intense. However, after quitting completely and staying off for some time, the symptoms became worse by the day (after 2 months or so). It felt like my neurotransmitters were all messed up.
Posted by Hana on September 17, 2016, at 13:09:23
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)? » Hana, posted by Tabitha on September 16, 2016, at 16:31:59
I've never experienced sth called anhedonia in my life. Never. Having experienced that now, I have my sympathies for sufferers of depression. I wish Brintellix could help with that considering it has no SEs. No med is perfect I guess.
P.S Since dopamine is the neurotransmitter that is responsible for motivation and pleasure, I do believe I have low dopamine which could be as a result of high levels of serotonin.
Posted by Hana on September 17, 2016, at 13:20:13
In reply to Thank you - Our trolls can be quite challenging. » Hana, posted by SLS on September 16, 2016, at 17:07:23
> > Anyway, I'm not gonna reply to you any further.
>
> :-)
>
> That's the idea. A troll must be ignored as much as possible.
>
> If you should find yourself replying to a troll, please make sure that the subject line is returned to the original wording without the name of the troll appearing in it.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> - ScottYeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
Posted by SLS on September 17, 2016, at 14:05:57
In reply to Re: Thank you - Our trolls can be quite challenging. » SLS, posted by Hana on September 17, 2016, at 13:20:13
> Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
I have never seen any antisemitism on the part of posters or moderators. I have been here since 2000. Being Jewish myself, I take seriously any posts that deserve scrutiny. The posting history of Lou Pilder is long and undeserving of recounting. As of today, as far as I can see, antisemitic posting is absent, and not at all promoted or protected by the owner or previous moderators.
If you would like to continue with this conversation, perhaps we can move it to either the Administration board or the thread beginning at:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html
- Scott
Posted by SLS on September 17, 2016, at 14:21:03
In reply to Re: Thank you - Our trolls can be quite challenging. » Hana, posted by SLS on September 17, 2016, at 14:05:57
This post has been redirected to the Administration forum:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20151112/msgs/1092209.html
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2016, at 14:59:29
In reply to Re: Thank you - Our trolls can be quite challenging. » SLS, posted by Hana on September 17, 2016, at 13:20:13
> > > Anyway, I'm not gonna reply to you any further.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > That's the idea. A troll must be ignored as much as possible.
> >
> > If you should find yourself replying to a troll, please make sure that the subject line is returned to the original wording without the name of the troll appearing in it.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?Hana,
You asked if it is true that this site promotes anti-Semitism.
The site creates and develops anti-Semitism. It is done in an crude manner as others greater than Hsiung and Scott have swayed entire countries to think that genocide would be good for their country as a whole.
Here, Scott and Hsiung attempt to use the playbook of creating and developing anti-Semitism in a community of people that take mind-altering drugs and are easily influenced by a psychiatrist that is a powerful influence to readers as he says that he does what will be good for him and his community as a whole in his thinking and to trust him. That is the same argument that war criminals used and even invoked it before they were hanged, to justify mass-murder of Jews.
Here, we have the psychjiatrist abusing his power to allow Scott and others to defame me and the Jews. Anti-Semitism means against the Jew or posting lies against the Jews or putting their fath down or insulting Judaism itself.
Here we have Scott degrading and debasing Jews saying that they have to convert to Christianity to be saved. That lie against the Jews is the foundation of the persecution of the Jews that Christendom people use to murder Jews for centuries.
Here is Scott's post all allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen as being supportive where it is originally posted. I have pleaded with Hsiung to post repudiations to those type of posts that put down Jews and he is still allowing the flame of hate toward the Jews to be seen as being civil.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2016, at 15:19:32
In reply to Lou.'s response-create and developing antiSemitism » Hana, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2016, at 14:59:29
> > > > Anyway, I'm not gonna reply to you any further.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > That's the idea. A troll must be ignored as much as possible.
> > >
> > > If you should find yourself replying to a troll, please make sure that the subject line is returned to the original wording without the name of the troll appearing in it.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> >
> > Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
>
> Hana,
> You asked if it is true that this site promotes anti-Semitism.
> The site creates and develops anti-Semitism. It is done in an crude manner as others greater than Hsiung and Scott have swayed entire countries to think that genocide would be good for their country as a whole.
> Here, Scott and Hsiung attempt to use the playbook of creating and developing anti-Semitism in a community of people that take mind-altering drugs and are easily influenced by a psychiatrist that is a powerful influence to readers as he says that he does what will be good for him and his community as a whole in his thinking and to trust him. That is the same argument that war criminals used and even invoked it before they were hanged, to justify mass-murder of Jews.
> Here, we have the psychjiatrist abusing his power to allow Scott and others to defame me and the Jews. Anti-Semitism means against the Jew or posting lies against the Jews or putting their fath down or insulting Judaism itself.
> Here we have Scott degrading and debasing Jews saying that they have to convert to Christianity to be saved. That lie against the Jews is the foundation of the persecution of the Jews that Christendom people use to murder Jews for centuries.
> Here is Scott's post all allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen as being supportive where it is originally posted. I have pleaded with Hsiung to post repudiations to those type of posts that put down Jews and he is still allowing the flame of hate toward the Jews to be seen as being civil.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.htmlHana,
Hsiung opens up many pathways to defame the Jews and create and develop anti-Semitism. One pathway is to allow the channeling of readers to think that Jews are going to hell because they reject Jesus. This has been used for centuries to justify genocide even from the crusades, the Spanish inquisition and expulsion of Jews from Spain in 1492 and all the way to today.
Hsiung uses third party posters to accomplish the lie against the Jews to be seen by him as civil. This creates and develops anti-Semitism here as readers could think that Hsiung is validating the hate as he allows it.
Here is one such post of many that creates and develops he theme of Jews as being unsaved and going to hell because they reject Jesus. That lie against the Jews being allowed here turns my stomach.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1092008.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2016, at 15:39:52
In reply to Lou's response to Hana-pathways for anti-Semitism, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2016, at 15:19:32
> > > > > Anyway, I'm not gonna reply to you any further.
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > That's the idea. A troll must be ignored as much as possible.
> > > >
> > > > If you should find yourself replying to a troll, please make sure that the subject line is returned to the original wording without the name of the troll appearing in it.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Scott
> > >
> > > Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
> >
> > Hana,
> > You asked if it is true that this site promotes anti-Semitism.
> > The site creates and develops anti-Semitism. It is done in an crude manner as others greater than Hsiung and Scott have swayed entire countries to think that genocide would be good for their country as a whole.
> > Here, Scott and Hsiung attempt to use the playbook of creating and developing anti-Semitism in a community of people that take mind-altering drugs and are easily influenced by a psychiatrist that is a powerful influence to readers as he says that he does what will be good for him and his community as a whole in his thinking and to trust him. That is the same argument that war criminals used and even invoked it before they were hanged, to justify mass-murder of Jews.
> > Here, we have the psychjiatrist abusing his power to allow Scott and others to defame me and the Jews. Anti-Semitism means against the Jew or posting lies against the Jews or putting their fath down or insulting Judaism itself.
> > Here we have Scott degrading and debasing Jews saying that they have to convert to Christianity to be saved. That lie against the Jews is the foundation of the persecution of the Jews that Christendom people use to murder Jews for centuries.
> > Here is Scott's post all allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen as being supportive where it is originally posted. I have pleaded with Hsiung to post repudiations to those type of posts that put down Jews and he is still allowing the flame of hate toward the Jews to be seen as being civil.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
>
> Hana,
> Hsiung opens up many pathways to defame the Jews and create and develop anti-Semitism. One pathway is to allow the channeling of readers to think that Jews are going to hell because they reject Jesus. This has been used for centuries to justify genocide even from the crusades, the Spanish inquisition and expulsion of Jews from Spain in 1492 and all the way to today.
> Hsiung uses third party posters to accomplish the lie against the Jews to be seen by him as civil. This creates and develops anti-Semitism here as readers could think that Hsiung is validating the hate as he allows it.
> Here is one such post of many that creates and develops he theme of Jews as being unsaved and going to hell because they reject Jesus. That lie against the Jews being allowed here turns my stomach.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1092008.htmlHana,
Another pathway that Hsiung uses to channel anti-Semitic propaganda is the pathway that Jew-haters use to defame Jews by accusing them of bringing harm to the community. This pathway Hsiung uses Scott even to this day, as Scott want people to shun me as if they participate with me here, harm will come to the readers. This type of hate toward the Jews was even to blame the Jews for the Black Death in Europe that killed millions. Scott an Hsiung work this to their advantage as I am prohibited by Hsiung to defend myself against them by Hsiung posting prohibitions to me here.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1049220.html
Posted by Hana on September 17, 2016, at 16:06:52
In reply to Re: Thank you - Our trolls can be quite challenging. » Hana, posted by SLS on September 17, 2016, at 14:05:57
> > Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
>
> I have never seen any antisemitism on the part of posters or moderators. I have been here since 2000. Being Jewish myself, I take seriously any posts that deserve scrutiny. The posting history of Lou Pilder is long and undeserving of recounting. As of today, as far as I can see, antisemitic posting is absent, and not at all promoted or protected by the owner or previous moderators.
>
> If you would like to continue with this conversation, perhaps we can move it to either the Administration board or the thread beginning at:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html
>
>
> - ScottThank you, Scott. I prefer to not continue with this conversation as I'm not interested to talk about that delusional dude. He has done an excellent job sending negative energy.
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2016, at 16:44:06
In reply to Re: Thank you - Our trolls can be quite challenging. » SLS, posted by Hana on September 17, 2016, at 16:06:52
> > > Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
> >
> > I have never seen any antisemitism on the part of posters or moderators. I have been here since 2000. Being Jewish myself, I take seriously any posts that deserve scrutiny. The posting history of Lou Pilder is long and undeserving of recounting. As of today, as far as I can see, antisemitic posting is absent, and not at all promoted or protected by the owner or previous moderators.
> >
> > If you would like to continue with this conversation, perhaps we can move it to either the Administration board or the thread beginning at:
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Thank you, Scott. I prefer to not continue with this conversation as I'm not interested to talk about that delusional dude. He has done an excellent job sending negative energy.
>
Friends,
The poster calls me a delusional dude. and what I write sends negative energy.
This could decrease the respect , regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
The anti-Semitism being created and developed here is not a delusion as it is plainly visible. This could seriously mislead you to also deny the reality of what can be seen plainly. That is called denial and is not a sound mental-health practice according to many psychiatrists. But it is allowed here to be seen as being supportive.
This poster that I am responding to now joins the pack of posters pretending that they just don't see. How many deaths will it take, before you are allowed to be free.
Lou
Posted by SLS on September 17, 2016, at 17:45:16
In reply to Re: Thank you - Our trolls can be quite challenging. » SLS, posted by Hana on September 17, 2016, at 16:06:52
> > If you would like to continue with this conversation, perhaps we can move it to either the Administration board or the thread beginning at:
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html
> Thank you, Scott. I prefer to not continue with this conversation as I'm not interested to talk about that delusional dude. He has done an excellent job sending negative energy.Yes, he has.
Thanks again.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on September 17, 2016, at 17:52:12
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)? » Hana, posted by SLS on September 14, 2016, at 15:47:21
Correction.
> Keep an eye on the two newer antipsychotics, Reluxti and Vraylar. Both drugs might help with anhedonia, as they are dopamine receptor D3 partial antagonists.
My mistake. These drugs are D3 partial agonists.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2016, at 7:32:57
In reply to Lou's response-.how many deaths » Hana, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2016, at 16:44:06
> > > > Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
> > >
> > > I have never seen any antisemitism on the part of posters or moderators. I have been here since 2000. Being Jewish myself, I take seriously any posts that deserve scrutiny. The posting history of Lou Pilder is long and undeserving of recounting. As of today, as far as I can see, antisemitic posting is absent, and not at all promoted or protected by the owner or previous moderators.
> > >
> > > If you would like to continue with this conversation, perhaps we can move it to either the Administration board or the thread beginning at:
> > >
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> >
> > Thank you, Scott. I prefer to not continue with this conversation as I'm not interested to talk about that delusional dude. He has done an excellent job sending negative energy.
> >
> Friends,
> The poster calls me a delusional dude. and what I write sends negative energy.
> This could decrease the respect , regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
> The anti-Semitism being created and developed here is not a delusion as it is plainly visible. This could seriously mislead you to also deny the reality of what can be seen plainly. That is called denial and is not a sound mental-health practice according to many psychiatrists. But it is allowed here to be seen as being supportive.
> This poster that I am responding to now joins the pack of posters pretending that they just don't see. How many deaths will it take, before you are allowed to be free.
> Lou
>
Friends,
Another pathway used by Hsiung to create and develop anti-Semitism is to allow Scott and others to defame me by the false accusation against me that what I write will destroy the forum.
By Hsiung allowing Scott and his followers to be immune from his enforcement policy, he denies me the equal protection of his rules which is discrimination. Discrimination is an abuse of power that in this case can arouse anti-Semitic feelings as the Jew posting here is allowed to be defamed with impunity. The denial of me having the equal protection of the rules here induces a community of hate that could lead you to your deaths. The allowing by Hsiung is against the Jew which is what ant-Semitism is. Here, by Hsiung allowing Scott and others to stigmatize me, the harm from discrimination is seen as being supportive by Hsiung and the humiliation from being discriminated on is going to be good for Mr. Hsiung and his community as a whole so he says his thinking is. But by saying that allowing defamation and stigmatization to me here will be good, readers could be seriously misled to think that defamation that a Jew is harming the community is to be allowed by Hsiung, readers could think that it is in Mr. Hsiung's thinking that it will be good and it is a good thing for this forum to create and develop against the Jews.
To deny the Jew in the community equal protection of the laws that could protect him, could lead to the promotion of anti-Semitic hate.
Never again
Lou
Here Scott is allowe to defame me here saying that I will destroy this forum. but he does not specify with any citation of a post by me to substantiate his accusation against me.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160306/msgs/1087350.html
Posted by SLS on September 18, 2016, at 7:58:26
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)?, posted by Hana on September 16, 2016, at 8:26:40
> Looks like Valdoxan is a mild drug. I'll look into something else. Btw that new treatment looks great. Is it availbale now or not yet?
I have a severe anergic bipolar depression with anhedonia and cognitive impairments. I take a combination of antidepressants, mood stabilizers, and an antipsychotic with antidepressant properties. I tried switching from Abilify to Vraylar. It made me feel much worse. I am currently switching to Reluxti. So far, I am feeling better than I was on Abilify. I am very much encouraged that I will continue to improve.
Currently:
Parnate 80 mg/day
nortriptyline 150 mg/day
Lamictal 300 mg/day
lithium 300 mg/day
Reluxti 1.0 mg/day
prazosin 30 mg/day
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2016, at 8:46:36
In reply to Lou's response-denial of equal protection, posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2016, at 7:32:57
> > > > > Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
> > > >
> > > > I have never seen any antisemitism on the part of posters or moderators. I have been here since 2000. Being Jewish myself, I take seriously any posts that deserve scrutiny. The posting history of Lou Pilder is long and undeserving of recounting. As of today, as far as I can see, antisemitic posting is absent, and not at all promoted or protected by the owner or previous moderators.
> > > >
> > > > If you would like to continue with this conversation, perhaps we can move it to either the Administration board or the thread beginning at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Scott
> > >
> > > Thank you, Scott. I prefer to not continue with this conversation as I'm not interested to talk about that delusional dude. He has done an excellent job sending negative energy.
> > >
> > Friends,
> > The poster calls me a delusional dude. and what I write sends negative energy.
> > This could decrease the respect , regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
> > The anti-Semitism being created and developed here is not a delusion as it is plainly visible. This could seriously mislead you to also deny the reality of what can be seen plainly. That is called denial and is not a sound mental-health practice according to many psychiatrists. But it is allowed here to be seen as being supportive.
> > This poster that I am responding to now joins the pack of posters pretending that they just don't see. How many deaths will it take, before you are allowed to be free.
> > Lou
> >
> Friends,
> Another pathway used by Hsiung to create and develop anti-Semitism is to allow Scott and others to defame me by the false accusation against me that what I write will destroy the forum.
> By Hsiung allowing Scott and his followers to be immune from his enforcement policy, he denies me the equal protection of his rules which is discrimination. Discrimination is an abuse of power that in this case can arouse anti-Semitic feelings as the Jew posting here is allowed to be defamed with impunity. The denial of me having the equal protection of the rules here induces a community of hate that could lead you to your deaths. The allowing by Hsiung is against the Jew which is what ant-Semitism is. Here, by Hsiung allowing Scott and others to stigmatize me, the harm from discrimination is seen as being supportive by Hsiung and the humiliation from being discriminated on is going to be good for Mr. Hsiung and his community as a whole so he says his thinking is. But by saying that allowing defamation and stigmatization to me here will be good, readers could be seriously misled to think that defamation that a Jew is harming the community is to be allowed by Hsiung, readers could think that it is in Mr. Hsiung's thinking that it will be good and it is a good thing for this forum to create and develop against the Jews.
> To deny the Jew in the community equal protection of the laws that could protect him, could lead to the promotion of anti-Semitic hate.
> Never again
> Lou
> Here Scott is allowe to defame me here saying that I will destroy this forum. but he does not specify with any citation of a post by me to substantiate his accusation against me.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160306/msgs/1087350.html
>
Friends,
Hsiung allows Judaism itself to be insulted here. This could be referred to as ant-Judaism. It is another pathway that Hsiung uses here that can create and develop anti-Semitic hate.
In the post the poster writes that Judaism is an insult to human intelligence. By Hsiung allowing the defamation against Judaism, the adherents of Judaism are also put down. That also puts me down.
But it is much worse than that. Hsiung wants you to trust him in what he does here, or even what he doesn't do. Judaism is not an insult to human intelligence and that lie against the Jews promotes anti-Semitism here in spades as readers see a psychiatrist validating the hate as he allows it to be seen as supportive.
The tragedy here is that you could be drawn into the vortex of anti-Semitic hate by trusting Mr. Hsiung and those in concert with him. By you denying that the humiliation of the Jews is being carried out here you could then deny other realities that could cause great psychiatric harm to come to you. You see, if you pretend that you just don't se what is plainly visible here, you could be directed into a fantasy mind-set that could draw you into a false reality that no drug could cast out.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20141120/msgs/1074119.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2016, at 9:52:43
In reply to Lou's response-pretending that you just don't see, posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2016, at 8:46:36
> > > > > > Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have never seen any antisemitism on the part of posters or moderators. I have been here since 2000. Being Jewish myself, I take seriously any posts that deserve scrutiny. The posting history of Lou Pilder is long and undeserving of recounting. As of today, as far as I can see, antisemitic posting is absent, and not at all promoted or protected by the owner or previous moderators.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you would like to continue with this conversation, perhaps we can move it to either the Administration board or the thread beginning at:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Scott
> > > >
> > > > Thank you, Scott. I prefer to not continue with this conversation as I'm not interested to talk about that delusional dude. He has done an excellent job sending negative energy.
> > > >
> > > Friends,
> > > The poster calls me a delusional dude. and what I write sends negative energy.
> > > This could decrease the respect , regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
> > > The anti-Semitism being created and developed here is not a delusion as it is plainly visible. This could seriously mislead you to also deny the reality of what can be seen plainly. That is called denial and is not a sound mental-health practice according to many psychiatrists. But it is allowed here to be seen as being supportive.
> > > This poster that I am responding to now joins the pack of posters pretending that they just don't see. How many deaths will it take, before you are allowed to be free.
> > > Lou
> > >
> > Friends,
> > Another pathway used by Hsiung to create and develop anti-Semitism is to allow Scott and others to defame me by the false accusation against me that what I write will destroy the forum.
> > By Hsiung allowing Scott and his followers to be immune from his enforcement policy, he denies me the equal protection of his rules which is discrimination. Discrimination is an abuse of power that in this case can arouse anti-Semitic feelings as the Jew posting here is allowed to be defamed with impunity. The denial of me having the equal protection of the rules here induces a community of hate that could lead you to your deaths. The allowing by Hsiung is against the Jew which is what ant-Semitism is. Here, by Hsiung allowing Scott and others to stigmatize me, the harm from discrimination is seen as being supportive by Hsiung and the humiliation from being discriminated on is going to be good for Mr. Hsiung and his community as a whole so he says his thinking is. But by saying that allowing defamation and stigmatization to me here will be good, readers could be seriously misled to think that defamation that a Jew is harming the community is to be allowed by Hsiung, readers could think that it is in Mr. Hsiung's thinking that it will be good and it is a good thing for this forum to create and develop against the Jews.
> > To deny the Jew in the community equal protection of the laws that could protect him, could lead to the promotion of anti-Semitic hate.
> > Never again
> > Lou
> > Here Scott is allowe to defame me here saying that I will destroy this forum. but he does not specify with any citation of a post by me to substantiate his accusation against me.
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160306/msgs/1087350.html
> >
> Friends,
> Hsiung allows Judaism itself to be insulted here. This could be referred to as ant-Judaism. It is another pathway that Hsiung uses here that can create and develop anti-Semitic hate.
> In the post the poster writes that Judaism is an insult to human intelligence. By Hsiung allowing the defamation against Judaism, the adherents of Judaism are also put down. That also puts me down.
> But it is much worse than that. Hsiung wants you to trust him in what he does here, or even what he doesn't do. Judaism is not an insult to human intelligence and that lie against the Jews promotes anti-Semitism here in spades as readers see a psychiatrist validating the hate as he allows it to be seen as supportive.
> The tragedy here is that you could be drawn into the vortex of anti-Semitic hate by trusting Mr. Hsiung and those in concert with him. By you denying that the humiliation of the Jews is being carried out here you could then deny other realities that could cause great psychiatric harm to come to you. You see, if you pretend that you just don't se what is plainly visible here, you could be directed into a fantasy mind-set that could draw you into a false reality that no drug could cast out.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20141120/msgs/1074119.html
>
Friends,
You may not have the education that enables you to identify how anti-Semitism is created and developed in a community.
I have prepared a partial list of the tactics used by crafty leaders to create and develop ant-Semitism in their community. You do not have to be a mastermind to foster hatred toward the Jews in a community.
Let us look at these and then you could have your eyes opened and be awakened to the hatred that is being fostered toward the Jews here by Hsiung and those he uses for that purpose by allowing them to be exempt from his enforcement policy.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20080719/msgs/844279.html
Posted by Hana on September 18, 2016, at 12:30:20
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)? » Hana, posted by SLS on September 18, 2016, at 7:58:26
> > Looks like Valdoxan is a mild drug. I'll look into something else. Btw that new treatment looks great. Is it availbale now or not yet?
>
> I have a severe anergic bipolar depression with anhedonia and cognitive impairments. I take a combination of antidepressants, mood stabilizers, and an antipsychotic with antidepressant properties. I tried switching from Abilify to Vraylar. It made me feel much worse. I am currently switching to Reluxti. So far, I am feeling better than I was on Abilify. I am very much encouraged that I will continue to improve.
>
> Currently:
>
> Parnate 80 mg/day
> nortriptyline 150 mg/day
> Lamictal 300 mg/day
> lithium 300 mg/day
> Reluxti 1.0 mg/day
> prazosin 30 mg/day
>
>
> - ScottSounds great! gonna suggest Reluxti to my pdoc. How long have you been on it? Are there any SEs especially in regards to sex drive?
Posted by SLS on September 18, 2016, at 15:18:43
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)? » SLS, posted by Hana on September 18, 2016, at 12:30:20
> > > Looks like Valdoxan is a mild drug. I'll look into something else. Btw that new treatment looks great. Is it availbale now or not yet?
> > I have a severe anergic bipolar depression with anhedonia and cognitive impairments. I take a combination of antidepressants, mood stabilizers, and an antipsychotic with antidepressant properties. I tried switching from Abilify to Vraylar. It made me feel much worse. I am currently switching to Reluxti. So far, I am feeling better than I was on Abilify. I am very much encouraged that I will continue to improve.
> >
> > Currently:
> >
> > Parnate 80 mg/day
> > nortriptyline 150 mg/day
> > Lamictal 300 mg/day
> > lithium 300 mg/day
> > Reluxti 1.0 mg/day
> > prazosin 30 mg/day> Sounds great! gonna suggest Reluxti to my pdoc. How long have you been on it? Are there any SEs especially in regards to sex drive?
I have been taking Reluxti for about two weeks. I noticed a positive response by day 7 at a dosage of 1.0 mg/day. In my experience, when trying an atypical AP to treat depression, I feel an improvement within a week, provided the dosage is high enough. With Reluxti, you start at 0.5 mg/day for 7 days, then 1.0 mg/day thereafter. I haven't been able to evaluate Reluxti for sexual side effects, as I take prazosin, which can reduce libido drastically. I will have to let you know about weight gain in the coming weeks. I still take 7.5 of Abilify, which I am still tapering. Reluxti is supposed to be more tolerable than Abilify if akathisia is an issue. I felt a little "drugged" for the first few days, but this sedation-like feeling disappeared completely. I will know more about the trajectory of my response to Reluxti over the next few weeks. I hope it doesn't plateau. It will be very demoralizing if I get "stuck" again.I wish you the best.
- Scott
Posted by Hana on September 19, 2016, at 6:23:22
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)? » Hana, posted by SLS on September 18, 2016, at 15:18:43
> > > > Looks like Valdoxan is a mild drug. I'll look into something else. Btw that new treatment looks great. Is it availbale now or not yet?
>
> > > I have a severe anergic bipolar depression with anhedonia and cognitive impairments. I take a combination of antidepressants, mood stabilizers, and an antipsychotic with antidepressant properties. I tried switching from Abilify to Vraylar. It made me feel much worse. I am currently switching to Reluxti. So far, I am feeling better than I was on Abilify. I am very much encouraged that I will continue to improve.
> > >
> > > Currently:
> > >
> > > Parnate 80 mg/day
> > > nortriptyline 150 mg/day
> > > Lamictal 300 mg/day
> > > lithium 300 mg/day
> > > Reluxti 1.0 mg/day
> > > prazosin 30 mg/day
>
> > Sounds great! gonna suggest Reluxti to my pdoc. How long have you been on it? Are there any SEs especially in regards to sex drive?
>
> I have been taking Reluxti for about two weeks. I noticed a positive response by day 7 at a dosage of 1.0 mg/day. In my experience, when trying an atypical AP to treat depression, I feel an improvement within a week, provided the dosage is high enough. With Reluxti, you start at 0.5 mg/day for 7 days, then 1.0 mg/day thereafter. I haven't been able to evaluate Reluxti for sexual side effects, as I take prazosin, which can reduce libido drastically. I will have to let you know about weight gain in the coming weeks. I still take 7.5 of Abilify, which I am still tapering. Reluxti is supposed to be more tolerable than Abilify if akathisia is an issue. I felt a little "drugged" for the first few days, but this sedation-like feeling disappeared completely. I will know more about the trajectory of my response to Reluxti over the next few weeks. I hope it doesn't plateau. It will be very demoralizing if I get "stuck" again.
>
> I wish you the best.
>
>
> - Scott
>
I'm glad it works for you. I hope it won't cause any sexual side effects. Having a normal sex drive is important for me. Take care :)
Posted by SLS on September 19, 2016, at 6:58:04
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)? » SLS, posted by Hana on September 19, 2016, at 6:23:22
> > I have been taking Reluxti for about two weeks. I noticed a positive response by day 7 at a dosage of 1.0 mg/day. In my experience, when trying an atypical AP to treat depression, I feel an improvement within a week, provided the dosage is high enough. With Reluxti, you start at 0.5 mg/day for 7 days, then 1.0 mg/day thereafter. I haven't been able to evaluate Reluxti for sexual side effects, as I take prazosin, which can reduce libido drastically. I will have to let you know about weight gain in the coming weeks. I still take 7.5 of Abilify, which I am still tapering. Reluxti is supposed to be more tolerable than Abilify if akathisia is an issue. I felt a little "drugged" for the first few days, but this sedation-like feeling disappeared completely. I will know more about the trajectory of my response to Reluxti over the next few weeks. I hope it doesn't plateau. It will be very demoralizing if I get "stuck" again.
> Having a normal sex drive is important for me. Take care :)
I miss having a sex-drive due to my taking prazosin. Unfortunately, it looks like I will need to take it if I am to achieve remission. It's a hell of a compromise to make. I will say this, though. I did have a sex-drive while taking Abilify without prazosin. Reluxti is related to Abilify chemically and pharmacologically. Perhaps, like Abilify, Reluxti will not squelch sex-drive.
Are you still interested in taking Reluxti?
- Scott
Posted by Hana on September 19, 2016, at 12:17:02
In reply to Re: Anyone's taking Agomelatine (Valdoxan)? » Hana, posted by SLS on September 19, 2016, at 6:58:04
> > > I have been taking Reluxti for about two weeks. I noticed a positive response by day 7 at a dosage of 1.0 mg/day. In my experience, when trying an atypical AP to treat depression, I feel an improvement within a week, provided the dosage is high enough. With Reluxti, you start at 0.5 mg/day for 7 days, then 1.0 mg/day thereafter. I haven't been able to evaluate Reluxti for sexual side effects, as I take prazosin, which can reduce libido drastically. I will have to let you know about weight gain in the coming weeks. I still take 7.5 of Abilify, which I am still tapering. Reluxti is supposed to be more tolerable than Abilify if akathisia is an issue. I felt a little "drugged" for the first few days, but this sedation-like feeling disappeared completely. I will know more about the trajectory of my response to Reluxti over the next few weeks. I hope it doesn't plateau. It will be very demoralizing if I get "stuck" again.
>
> > Having a normal sex drive is important for me. Take care :)
>
> I miss having a sex-drive due to my taking prazosin. Unfortunately, it looks like I will need to take it if I am to achieve remission. It's a hell of a compromise to make. I will say this, though. I did have a sex-drive while taking Abilify without prazosin. Reluxti is related to Abilify chemically and pharmacologically. Perhaps, like Abilify, Reluxti will not squelch sex-drive.
>
> Are you still interested in taking Reluxti?
>
>
> - ScottYup. I'll take it and see how it goes. I really appreciate your help.
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 19, 2016, at 12:31:28
In reply to Lou's response-identifying anti-Semitism, posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2016, at 9:52:43
> > > > > > > Yeah that's the only solution. Ignore him. I'm wondering though is what he says true? Does this forum really promote anti-antisemitism?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have never seen any antisemitism on the part of posters or moderators. I have been here since 2000. Being Jewish myself, I take seriously any posts that deserve scrutiny. The posting history of Lou Pilder is long and undeserving of recounting. As of today, as far as I can see, antisemitic posting is absent, and not at all promoted or protected by the owner or previous moderators.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you would like to continue with this conversation, perhaps we can move it to either the Administration board or the thread beginning at:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you, Scott. I prefer to not continue with this conversation as I'm not interested to talk about that delusional dude. He has done an excellent job sending negative energy.
> > > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > The poster calls me a delusional dude. and what I write sends negative energy.
> > > > This could decrease the respect , regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
> > > > The anti-Semitism being created and developed here is not a delusion as it is plainly visible. This could seriously mislead you to also deny the reality of what can be seen plainly. That is called denial and is not a sound mental-health practice according to many psychiatrists. But it is allowed here to be seen as being supportive.
> > > > This poster that I am responding to now joins the pack of posters pretending that they just don't see. How many deaths will it take, before you are allowed to be free.
> > > > Lou
> > > >
> > > Friends,
> > > Another pathway used by Hsiung to create and develop anti-Semitism is to allow Scott and others to defame me by the false accusation against me that what I write will destroy the forum.
> > > By Hsiung allowing Scott and his followers to be immune from his enforcement policy, he denies me the equal protection of his rules which is discrimination. Discrimination is an abuse of power that in this case can arouse anti-Semitic feelings as the Jew posting here is allowed to be defamed with impunity. The denial of me having the equal protection of the rules here induces a community of hate that could lead you to your deaths. The allowing by Hsiung is against the Jew which is what ant-Semitism is. Here, by Hsiung allowing Scott and others to stigmatize me, the harm from discrimination is seen as being supportive by Hsiung and the humiliation from being discriminated on is going to be good for Mr. Hsiung and his community as a whole so he says his thinking is. But by saying that allowing defamation and stigmatization to me here will be good, readers could be seriously misled to think that defamation that a Jew is harming the community is to be allowed by Hsiung, readers could think that it is in Mr. Hsiung's thinking that it will be good and it is a good thing for this forum to create and develop against the Jews.
> > > To deny the Jew in the community equal protection of the laws that could protect him, could lead to the promotion of anti-Semitic hate.
> > > Never again
> > > Lou
> > > Here Scott is allowe to defame me here saying that I will destroy this forum. but he does not specify with any citation of a post by me to substantiate his accusation against me.
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160306/msgs/1087350.html
> > >
> > Friends,
> > Hsiung allows Judaism itself to be insulted here. This could be referred to as ant-Judaism. It is another pathway that Hsiung uses here that can create and develop anti-Semitic hate.
> > In the post the poster writes that Judaism is an insult to human intelligence. By Hsiung allowing the defamation against Judaism, the adherents of Judaism are also put down. That also puts me down.
> > But it is much worse than that. Hsiung wants you to trust him in what he does here, or even what he doesn't do. Judaism is not an insult to human intelligence and that lie against the Jews promotes anti-Semitism here in spades as readers see a psychiatrist validating the hate as he allows it to be seen as supportive.
> > The tragedy here is that you could be drawn into the vortex of anti-Semitic hate by trusting Mr. Hsiung and those in concert with him. By you denying that the humiliation of the Jews is being carried out here you could then deny other realities that could cause great psychiatric harm to come to you. You see, if you pretend that you just don't se what is plainly visible here, you could be directed into a fantasy mind-set that could draw you into a false reality that no drug could cast out.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20141120/msgs/1074119.html
> >
> Friends,
> You may not have the education that enables you to identify how anti-Semitism is created and developed in a community.
> I have prepared a partial list of the tactics used by crafty leaders to create and develop ant-Semitism in their community. You do not have to be a mastermind to foster hatred toward the Jews in a community.
> Let us look at these and then you could have your eyes opened and be awakened to the hatred that is being fostered toward the Jews here by Hsiung and those he uses for that purpose by allowing them to be exempt from his enforcement policy.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20080719/msgs/844279.html
>
Friends,
Let look at this video.
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNmbcFvczjE
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