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Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
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Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 9:48:42
Been reading and do you realize that now some posters here are now bullying in my opinion only Lou. Yes he frustrates many with constant warnings of Death & Harm from Medications. But If he is or possibly does have a mental illness don't you feel you are hurting him and shunning him. Since Bob is no longer here shouldn't we start supporting Lou and encouraging him to seek help (which he very well could be) and support him? Instead is there a possibility he is right? I know for myself taking meds since age 24 means there is a form of addiction involved and it has changed my brain. Years ago my husband was given paxil which he only took a month and never took a med again and he's now a very productive member of society who accomplishes way more than I could ever hope to accomplish. Yes he's younger but it doesn't explain why since beginning meds and that includes synthroid the worst for me that I now have even more problems both physical and mental? So I urge you to stop bullying Lou and instead be the supportive people you claim to be. And babble is very cliquish. Just my opinion. So my turn for the chopping block. Or to have this post skipped over Phillipa
Posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 10:48:06
In reply to Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 9:48:42
> Been reading and do you realize that now some posters here are now bullying in my opinion only Lou. Yes he frustrates many with constant warnings of Death & Harm from Medications. But If he is or possibly does have a mental illness don't you feel you are hurting him and shunning him.
No, I don't worry about Lou being hurt by posts here. He doesn't operate like a typical person. People have been very gentle with him over the years, trying to encourage him to seek help and change his posting to stop provoking people, and he's non-responsive. No matter what, all he sees is anti-Semitism.
> Since Bob is no longer here shouldn't we start supporting Lou and encouraging him to seek help (which he very well could be) and support him?
Lou will do whatever he damn well pleases. Some people have been encouraging and supporting Lou since at least 2002 and he's only gotten more and more hostile and deranged. Sure he has a mental illness, but he's also a functioning member of society. He's married, he takes trips, he owns a home in a suburb of Cincinnati, he's filing nuisance lawsuits against his condo board and the Ohio Civil Rights Commission. In short he can obviously take care of himself yet chooses to be a nuisance to his neighbors and to his would-be supporters here.
> Instead is there a possibility he is right?
No, there's no possibility that he's right about anything. He takes a kernel of truth and distorts it beyond all reason. It's harmful. We all know psych meds have undesirable side effects and in some cases do more harm than good. It's not helpful to add politicized fear-mongering. It's actually pretty disgusting to do that in one of the few places where people can receive information and support on their difficult road to improved functioning.
> know for myself taking meds since age 24 means there is a form of addiction involved and it has changed my brain. Years ago my husband was given paxil which he only took a month and never took a med again and he's now a very productive member of society who accomplishes way more than I could ever hope to accomplish. Yes he's younger but it doesn't explain why since beginning meds and that includes synthroid the worst for me that I now have even more problems both physical and mental?
Phillipa, you're also getting old. Stuff starts going wrong. There's no good reason to blame your medications.
> So I urge you to stop bullying Lou and instead be the supportive people you claim to be. And babble is very cliquish. Just my opinion. So my turn for the chopping block. Or to have this post skipped over Phillipa
I urge people to interact with Lou in whatever way they're comfortable with. What do you even mean by cliquish? People connect with who the connect with, and they tend to interact more with people they connect with better. It's how social groups operate.
I'm not putting you on the chopping block. I can disagree with you, but you're still capable of a conversation.
Posted by linkadge on September 8, 2016, at 10:52:09
In reply to Re: Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou » Phillipa, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 10:48:06
Lou *tired* to join the site I just put up.
It was so obvious it was hime (he can't speak in full sentences).
His IP was blocked.
Feel free to join:
http://newbabble.freeforums.net/thread/7/feel
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on September 8, 2016, at 11:03:42
In reply to Re: Lou *tried* to join my new site :) heh, posted by linkadge on September 8, 2016, at 10:52:09
http://newbabble.freeforums.net/
Linkadge
Posted by Lamdage22 on September 8, 2016, at 12:58:12
In reply to Re: Sorry, bad link above:, posted by linkadge on September 8, 2016, at 11:03:42
I like it. Can you put up social and psychology also?
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 13:45:36
In reply to Re: Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou » Phillipa, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 10:48:06
> > Been reading and do you realize that now some posters here are now bullying in my opinion only Lou. Yes he frustrates many with constant warnings of Death & Harm from Medications. But If he is or possibly does have a mental illness don't you feel you are hurting him and shunning him.
>
> No, I don't worry about Lou being hurt by posts here. He doesn't operate like a typical person. People have been very gentle with him over the years, trying to encourage him to seek help and change his posting to stop provoking people, and he's non-responsive. No matter what, all he sees is anti-Semitism.
>
> > Since Bob is no longer here shouldn't we start supporting Lou and encouraging him to seek help (which he very well could be) and support him?
>
> Lou will do whatever he damn well pleases. Some people have been encouraging and supporting Lou since at least 2002 and he's only gotten more and more hostile and deranged. Sure he has a mental illness, but he's also a functioning member of society. He's married, he takes trips, he owns a home in a suburb of Cincinnati, he's filing nuisance lawsuits against his condo board and the Ohio Civil Rights Commission. In short he can obviously take care of himself yet chooses to be a nuisance to his neighbors and to his would-be supporters here.
>
> > Instead is there a possibility he is right?
>
> No, there's no possibility that he's right about anything. He takes a kernel of truth and distorts it beyond all reason. It's harmful. We all know psych meds have undesirable side effects and in some cases do more harm than good. It's not helpful to add politicized fear-mongering. It's actually pretty disgusting to do that in one of the few places where people can receive information and support on their difficult road to improved functioning.
>
> > know for myself taking meds since age 24 means there is a form of addiction involved and it has changed my brain. Years ago my husband was given paxil which he only took a month and never took a med again and he's now a very productive member of society who accomplishes way more than I could ever hope to accomplish. Yes he's younger but it doesn't explain why since beginning meds and that includes synthroid the worst for me that I now have even more problems both physical and mental?
>
> Phillipa, you're also getting old. Stuff starts going wrong. There's no good reason to blame your medications.
>
> > So I urge you to stop bullying Lou and instead be the supportive people you claim to be. And babble is very cliquish. Just my opinion. So my turn for the chopping block. Or to have this post skipped over Phillipa
>
> I urge people to interact with Lou in whatever way they're comfortable with. What do you even mean by cliquish? People connect with who the connect with, and they tend to interact more with people they connect with better. It's how social groups operate.
>
> I'm not putting you on the chopping block. I can disagree with you, but you're still capable of a conversation.
>
> Tabitha,
You wrote,[...filing nuisance law suits...]
The charge of religious discrimination in housing is not a law suit. Why do you claim that it is a nuisance?
Lou
Posted by linkadge on September 8, 2016, at 13:52:45
In reply to Re: Sorry, bad link above:, posted by Lamdage22 on September 8, 2016, at 12:58:12
Done.
Let's just see whether it catches on :)
http://newbabble.freeforums.net/
As I said above, Lou tried to join, however his IP has been permanently blocked :)
Linkadge
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 13:57:11
In reply to Re: Sorry, bad link above:, posted by linkadge on September 8, 2016, at 13:52:45
> Done.
>
> Let's just see whether it catches on :)
>
> http://newbabble.freeforums.net/
>
> As I said above, Lou tried to join, however his IP has been permanently blocked :)
>
> Linkadgewhat constitutes,[...trying to join...]?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 14:15:31
In reply to Re: Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou » Phillipa, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 10:48:06
> > Been reading and do you realize that now some posters here are now bullying in my opinion only Lou. Yes he frustrates many with constant warnings of Death & Harm from Medications. But If he is or possibly does have a mental illness don't you feel you are hurting him and shunning him.
>
> No, I don't worry about Lou being hurt by posts here. He doesn't operate like a typical person. People have been very gentle with him over the years, trying to encourage him to seek help and change his posting to stop provoking people, and he's non-responsive. No matter what, all he sees is anti-Semitism.
>
> > Since Bob is no longer here shouldn't we start supporting Lou and encouraging him to seek help (which he very well could be) and support him?
>
> Lou will do whatever he damn well pleases. Some people have been encouraging and supporting Lou since at least 2002 and he's only gotten more and more hostile and deranged. Sure he has a mental illness, but he's also a functioning member of society. He's married, he takes trips, he owns a home in a suburb of Cincinnati, he's filing nuisance lawsuits against his condo board and the Ohio Civil Rights Commission. In short he can obviously take care of himself yet chooses to be a nuisance to his neighbors and to his would-be supporters here.
>
> > Instead is there a possibility he is right?
>
> No, there's no possibility that he's right about anything. He takes a kernel of truth and distorts it beyond all reason. It's harmful. We all know psych meds have undesirable side effects and in some cases do more harm than good. It's not helpful to add politicized fear-mongering. It's actually pretty disgusting to do that in one of the few places where people can receive information and support on their difficult road to improved functioning.
>
> > know for myself taking meds since age 24 means there is a form of addiction involved and it has changed my brain. Years ago my husband was given paxil which he only took a month and never took a med again and he's now a very productive member of society who accomplishes way more than I could ever hope to accomplish. Yes he's younger but it doesn't explain why since beginning meds and that includes synthroid the worst for me that I now have even more problems both physical and mental?
>
> Phillipa, you're also getting old. Stuff starts going wrong. There's no good reason to blame your medications.
>
> > So I urge you to stop bullying Lou and instead be the supportive people you claim to be. And babble is very cliquish. Just my opinion. So my turn for the chopping block. Or to have this post skipped over Phillipa
>
> I urge people to interact with Lou in whatever way they're comfortable with. What do you even mean by cliquish? People connect with who the connect with, and they tend to interact more with people they connect with better. It's how social groups operate.
>
> I'm not putting you on the chopping block. I can disagree with you, but you're still capable of a conversation.> Tabitha,
You wrote that there is no possibility that I am right about anything.
That could stigmatize me as Hsiung allows you to break his own TOS. Readers could see you placing me in a false light with being in concert with Mr. Hsiung. This could also arouse ant-Semitic feelings as I am being subject to humiliation by Hsiung allowing you to defame me here. The humiliation from the discrimination is greater than the humiliation of the slander against my character.
Lou
>
Posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 14:25:48
In reply to Lou's response- » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 13:45:36
> You wrote,[...filing nuisance law suits...]
> The charge of religious discrimination in housing is not a law suit. Why do you claim that it is a nuisance?
> LouSee http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20151112/msgs/1091806.html
And the reaction of your HOA:
"In May, 2016 the Civil Rights Commission found insufficient information to move forward with Mr. Pilder's complaint over the displaying of "Holiday Wreaths" in common areas of the Association, but because of Mr. Pilder's continued dissatisfaction that his case didn't go the way he wanted, he has now filed for an appeal to be considered in September, 2016 to determine if the case should move forward or if the original case dismissal will stand. This is yet another case of one Homeowner of the Association costing his fellow Homeowners of the Association unnecessary legal costs, which in turn just as in the case of Mr. Vultaggio, slows down the progress of the Community."
http://www.villageatbeckettridge.com/document_view.asp?id=335
Posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 14:32:13
In reply to Lou's response-the humiliation allowed by Hsiung » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 14:15:31
> The humiliation from the discrimination is greater than the humiliation of the slander against my character.
> Lou
If you'd worry about the humiliation of behaving like a total a-rs-e, the other humiliations might clear up fairly quickly.
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 16:40:03
In reply to Re: a-rs-e » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 14:32:13
> > The humiliation from the discrimination is greater than the humiliation of the slander against my character.
> > Lou
>
>
> If you'd worry about the humiliation of behaving like a total a-rs-e, the other humiliations might clear up fairly quickly.
>
> Friends,
Be not deceived. This poster that posts defamation against me with Mr. Hsiung allowing it has not stated a rational basis for what the "behavior" is tha allows her with Mr. Hsiung's approval that I have behavior that constitutes being a total a-rs-e, whatever that could be.
My behavior centers around bringing healing to those that are lost and want to be free from the psychiatrist's drugs. This comes from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me that Mr. Hsiung prohibits me from posting.
The aspect of him making that prohibition causes a development of anti-Semitic feelings in the community as is plainly visible here. This causes me to attempt to stop Mr. Hsiung and those in concert with him that you see he give immunity to for defaming me and posting anti-Semitic propaganda.
To bring in that I also want religious equality for the Jews in a condo association as being a nuisance is standard anti-Semitism because it puts down and accuses me as a Jew attempting to have religious equality in housing. Think upon that.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 18:36:57
In reply to Re: Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou » Phillipa, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 10:48:06
May be getting older but still riding bike outside 6-7 miles a day rain or shine and then an hour of Pt exercises on the floor inside. This is how I manage my own health. Never home and just bought a new home and doing a lot of work on it. So age is no reason to not do things at all. Just said that the so called miracle meds don't work over time. So why take any? That's my story and sticking with it. And how would you know that Lou filed a law suit? Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 18:44:45
In reply to Re: Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou » Tabitha, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 18:36:57
Tabitha I see you have a link to an HOA complaint how did you get this? Was it posted online? Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 18:55:38
In reply to Re: nuisance » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 14:25:48
That is not included in the HOA meeting but another lawsuit was by a different party. All Lou asked was for clarification in where for Rent signs could be placed in common areas or not. Where I lived before this move no signs could be placed in any common area and a set size sign could be placed in owners front yard only for Sale or Rent. I lived in a community with single family homes also. So where is Lou's lawsuit? Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on September 8, 2016, at 19:36:53
In reply to Re: nuisance » Tabitha, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 18:55:38
Sorry Philipa,
I don't know how you can defend this crap.
(and now I'm gone)
Linkadge
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 20:46:04
In reply to Re: Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou » Phillipa, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 10:48:06
> > Been reading and do you realize that now some posters here are now bullying in my opinion only Lou. Yes he frustrates many with constant warnings of Death & Harm from Medications. But If he is or possibly does have a mental illness don't you feel you are hurting him and shunning him.
>
> No, I don't worry about Lou being hurt by posts here. He doesn't operate like a typical person. People have been very gentle with him over the years, trying to encourage him to seek help and change his posting to stop provoking people, and he's non-responsive. No matter what, all he sees is anti-Semitism.
>
> > Since Bob is no longer here shouldn't we start supporting Lou and encouraging him to seek help (which he very well could be) and support him?
>
> Lou will do whatever he damn well pleases. Some people have been encouraging and supporting Lou since at least 2002 and he's only gotten more and more hostile and deranged. Sure he has a mental illness, but he's also a functioning member of society. He's married, he takes trips, he owns a home in a suburb of Cincinnati, he's filing nuisance lawsuits against his condo board and the Ohio Civil Rights Commission. In short he can obviously take care of himself yet chooses to be a nuisance to his neighbors and to his would-be supporters here.
>
> > Instead is there a possibility he is right?
>
> No, there's no possibility that he's right about anything. He takes a kernel of truth and distorts it beyond all reason. It's harmful. We all know psych meds have undesirable side effects and in some cases do more harm than good. It's not helpful to add politicized fear-mongering. It's actually pretty disgusting to do that in one of the few places where people can receive information and support on their difficult road to improved functioning.
>
> > know for myself taking meds since age 24 means there is a form of addiction involved and it has changed my brain. Years ago my husband was given paxil which he only took a month and never took a med again and he's now a very productive member of society who accomplishes way more than I could ever hope to accomplish. Yes he's younger but it doesn't explain why since beginning meds and that includes synthroid the worst for me that I now have even more problems both physical and mental?
>
> Phillipa, you're also getting old. Stuff starts going wrong. There's no good reason to blame your medications.
>
> > So I urge you to stop bullying Lou and instead be the supportive people you claim to be. And babble is very cliquish. Just my opinion. So my turn for the chopping block. Or to have this post skipped over Phillipa
>
> I urge people to interact with Lou in whatever way they're comfortable with. What do you even mean by cliquish? People connect with who the connect with, and they tend to interact more with people they connect with better. It's how social groups operate.
>
> I'm not putting you on the chopping block. I can disagree with you, but you're still capable of a conversation.
>
> Friends,
Tabitha writes,[...Phillipa, you are also getting old. Stuff starts going wrong. There is no good reason to blame your medication...].
We have several issues here with Tabitha allowed by Hsiung to post this.
Let us reason together. The drugs accumulate in the body over time. There is great research on this and Tardive Dyskinesia happens more in those taking the drugs over a long time (although dyskinesia can happen in early use of these drugs). The effects of the drugs in older people are now being studied and there is a black box warning to those that take these drugs as being elderly. This leads to that taking these drugs is not wise for the elderly. And the organs have the drugs stay in them that causes other illnesses. And then there is blood disease from these drugs and liver and kidney failure over time.
The drugs can ravish the elderly and cause death. Getting old can not be blamed for what these drugs can do over time.
But the overriding aspect here is that I see disrespect to the elderly by Tabitha for posting that Phillip's age is even brought out here. And to blame Phillipa for being her age that causes slowing down as stuff starts goiung wrong, is disrespectful to all the elderly and Hsiung allows it. Some day you will be the elderly.
Friends, to demean the elderly is to demean humanity itself. Why can't I free your doubtful minds, and melt your cold, cold hearts.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 21:26:32
In reply to Lou's response-cold, cold hearts » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 20:46:04
Hey Lou and thanks cause what you say is true as meds accumulate in body fat ( I am lean at 5'41/2" & weight the same as did in my 20's. But am cutting way down on the benzos as they tire me. When I just cut down I feel so much better with a lot more energy for exercise. And not that many I know that ride outside when in the mid 90 degrees. So for an Oldie doing well. I need to go do the stretches now. Phillipa
Posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 22:03:08
In reply to Re: nuisance » Tabitha, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 18:55:38
> So where is Lou's lawsuit? Phillipa
Details on Admin board, look for "Lou's lawsuit". He thinks holiday wreaths are discrimination against Jews, even though many cases have ruled they're not religious displays. Case was thrown out once and he's re-filed. He thinks it will be a huge legal precedent and he's invited us all to attend. It's kind of concerning actually. Maybe you could contact his wife and try to help get his meds adjusted? She's active on facebook.
Posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 22:08:10
In reply to Lou's response-cold, cold hearts » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 20:46:04
> But the overriding aspect here is that I see disrespect to the elderly by Tabitha for posting that Phillip's age is even brought out here. And to blame Phillipa for being her age that causes slowing down as stuff starts goiung wrong, is disrespectful to all the elderly and Hsiung allows it. Some day you will be the elderly.
I could have worded it better as "we are getting old". It's a fact, people get more health problems with age, whether they've ever taken medications or not. No disrespect to the elderly intended.
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 22:27:09
In reply to Re: nuisance » Phillipa, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 22:03:08
> > So where is Lou's lawsuit? Phillipa
>
> Details on Admin board, look for "Lou's lawsuit". He thinks holiday wreaths are discrimination against Jews, even though many cases have ruled they're not religious displays. Case was thrown out once and he's re-filed. He thinks it will be a huge legal precedent and he's invited us all to attend. It's kind of concerning actually. Maybe you could contact his wife and try to help get his meds adjusted? She's active on facebook.
>
> Friends,
Filing a charge of religious discrimination with the Ohio Civil Rights Commission is not a law suit. I am the charging party and I am seeking religious equality in housing per the Fair Housing Act.
You see, anti-Semitism means against the Jew. But it could also mean against the Jew being allowed to be seen as equal. I contend that if the condo association can place symbols associated with Christmas in the common areas that the Jewish perspective of the holiday should not be denied. They denied me placing the menorah equivalent with the Christmas wreaths. I am asking the high commission to rule on if that violates the fair housing act, as I see that it does because of many factors and the law speaks to this situation in 3604 a-c.
You see, equality is lost if discrimination is allowed. If Jews could be seen as unequal in a community then I think that is an anti-Semitic act as anti-Semitism means against the Jew. Being against the Jew could be accomplished many ways and not being allowed to have equal representation in the holiday makes me feel discriminated on as a Jew and suffer humiliation as a Jew that could be seen as an outsider because the display was only Christmas wreaths. It is how the display is perceived by a reasonable observer, not what the intentions of those that put up the display intended for others to perceive or even what they call the wreaths. This is the crux of the case. It is not a law suit but a request for determination of law.
Lou
Posted by AlexCanada on September 8, 2016, at 23:01:28
In reply to Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 9:48:42
> Been reading and do you realize that now some posters here are now bullying in my opinion only Lou. Yes he frustrates many with constant warnings of Death & Harm from Medications. But If he is or possibly does have a mental illness don't you feel you are hurting him and shunning him. Since Bob is no longer here shouldn't we start supporting Lou and encouraging him to seek help (which he very well could be) and support him? Instead is there a possibility he is right? I know for myself taking meds since age 24 means there is a form of addiction involved and it has changed my brain. Years ago my husband was given paxil which he only took a month and never took a med again and he's now a very productive member of society who accomplishes way more than I could ever hope to accomplish. Yes he's younger but it doesn't explain why since beginning meds and that includes synthroid the worst for me that I now have even more problems both physical and mental? So I urge you to stop bullying Lou and instead be the supportive people you claim to be. And babble is very cliquish. Just my opinion. So my turn for the chopping block. Or to have this post skipped over Phillipa
This type of thinking is very dangerous. If we were speaking about a tyrant like Hitler would you offer him support? Would you continue to enable him by feeling sorry for him?
He has caused endless harm and harassment on an on-going basis.
If you want to support someone who has made zero effort to support others on this forum over the past 15 years then that's unfortunate. You cannot Reason with a sociopath. I don't think you comprehend who we are dealing with.
This kind of mentality would allow abusive and horrible people to walk all over those who are in need.
Lou has a large family, a wife, and is very wealthy. He doesn't need our help and he is beyond help. He has spent 15 years here abusing people and you think there is some manner in which you can seriously help him?
Lou bullies people in a weekly basis. With all due respect how dare you stand up for him? I don't think you comprehend the damage and heartache he has caused. You might as well be sticking up for a serial killer and I am not kidding.
You want to feel compassion for anything and anyone but your inner appeal for connection towards others is clouding your judgment.
Posted by AlexCanada on September 8, 2016, at 23:11:31
In reply to Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 9:48:42
> Been reading and do you realize that now some posters here are now bullying in my opinion only Lou. Yes he frustrates many with constant warnings of Death & Harm from Medications. But If he is or possibly does have a mental illness don't you feel you are hurting him and shunning him. Since Bob is no longer here shouldn't we start supporting Lou and encouraging him to seek help (which he very well could be) and support him? Instead is there a possibility he is right? I know for myself taking meds since age 24 means there is a form of addiction involved and it has changed my brain. Years ago my husband was given paxil which he only took a month and never took a med again and he's now a very productive member of society who accomplishes way more than I could ever hope to accomplish. Yes he's younger but it doesn't explain why since beginning meds and that includes synthroid the worst for me that I now have even more problems both physical and mental? So I urge you to stop bullying Lou and instead be the supportive people you claim to be. And babble is very cliquish. Just my opinion. So my turn for the chopping block. Or to have this post skipped over Phillipa
People who are depressed need to Avoid people like Lou. Not enable them and participate in a sociopath's sick sadistic game.Stressful people cause cortisol levels to spiral into chaos. I for one have to avoid stressful situations as best I can because of my Adrenal problems. I literally could not post on this forum anymore because of how horrible Lou was constantly making me feel.
If You want to support that then I seriously question your judgment. I am just one person but it doesn't take a scientist to figure out that Lou has caused serious harm to countless individuals who have posted here.
You want to offer him a platform? Just shameful.
Under what circumstances is it right for people who are dealing with depression, stress, anxiety and other issues to continue to engage with such a negative force like Lou Pilder????
Any good Pdoc would encourage us to Avoid the source of stress and avoid any negative influences.
I don't know what's worse. Lou's abuse and harassment of members or your apathy towards it. When ordinary people remain silent or find nothing wrong with someone who is abusive they effectively Enable that abuse to continue.
Posted by AlexCanada on September 8, 2016, at 23:17:53
In reply to Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right Concerning Lou, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2016, at 9:48:42
> Been reading and do you realize that now some posters here are now bullying in my opinion only Lou. Yes he frustrates many with constant warnings of Death & Harm from Medications. But If he is or possibly does have a mental illness don't you feel you are hurting him and shunning him. Since Bob is no longer here shouldn't we start supporting Lou and encouraging him to seek help (which he very well could be) and support him? Instead is there a possibility he is right? I know for myself taking meds since age 24 means there is a form of addiction involved and it has changed my brain. Years ago my husband was given paxil which he only took a month and never took a med again and he's now a very productive member of society who accomplishes way more than I could ever hope to accomplish. Yes he's younger but it doesn't explain why since beginning meds and that includes synthroid the worst for me that I now have even more problems both physical and mental? So I urge you to stop bullying Lou and instead be the supportive people you claim to be. And babble is very cliquish. Just my opinion. So my turn for the chopping block. Or to have this post skipped over Phillipa
It is not healthy for anyone here or anyone on the face of this planet to engage with Lou in any manner. Thus, I am glad that so many are deciding to leave this forum.I think we all need to look back and examine how many countless hours of our lives have been wasted by such a toxic individual and how it has impeded our progress.
This is for our own good. We will all be better off because of it. Otherwise we might as well play the role of abuse victims. To continue to engage with this individual endlessly is quite frankly insane.
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 9, 2016, at 7:33:07
In reply to You are dead wrong. Very dangerous thinking. » Phillipa, posted by AlexCanada on September 8, 2016, at 23:01:28
> > Been reading and do you realize that now some posters here are now bullying in my opinion only Lou. Yes he frustrates many with constant warnings of Death & Harm from Medications. But If he is or possibly does have a mental illness don't you feel you are hurting him and shunning him. Since Bob is no longer here shouldn't we start supporting Lou and encouraging him to seek help (which he very well could be) and support him? Instead is there a possibility he is right? I know for myself taking meds since age 24 means there is a form of addiction involved and it has changed my brain. Years ago my husband was given paxil which he only took a month and never took a med again and he's now a very productive member of society who accomplishes way more than I could ever hope to accomplish. Yes he's younger but it doesn't explain why since beginning meds and that includes synthroid the worst for me that I now have even more problems both physical and mental? So I urge you to stop bullying Lou and instead be the supportive people you claim to be. And babble is very cliquish. Just my opinion. So my turn for the chopping block. Or to have this post skipped over Phillipa
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> This type of thinking is very dangerous. If we were speaking about a tyrant like Hitler would you offer him support? Would you continue to enable him by feeling sorry for him?
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> He has caused endless harm and harassment on an on-going basis.
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> If you want to support someone who has made zero effort to support others on this forum over the past 15 years then that's unfortunate. You cannot Reason with a sociopath. I don't think you comprehend who we are dealing with.
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> This kind of mentality would allow abusive and horrible people to walk all over those who are in need.
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> Lou has a large family, a wife, and is very wealthy. He doesn't need our help and he is beyond help. He has spent 15 years here abusing people and you think there is some manner in which you can seriously help him?
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> Lou bullies people in a weekly basis. With all due respect how dare you stand up for him? I don't think you comprehend the damage and heartache he has caused. You might as well be sticking up for a serial killer and I am not kidding.
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> You want to feel compassion for anything and anyone but your inner appeal for connection towards others is clouding your judgment.Friends,
Be not deceived. Hsiung allows the defamation here against me and the anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive. The attempt to lead readers as me being associated with Hitler is in some jurisdictions considered to be an anti-Semitic statement when it is using a Jewish person as the subject person.
Alex is allowed by Hsiung to post that I cause endless harm. Alex fails to state a claim to substantiate such hate. And Hsiung allows Alex immunity from his enforcement policy.
Hsiung is orchestrating this defamation against me by him abusing his power to allow third parties to defame me. He can not be prosecuted for that, but that does not mean that the harm that could come to vulnerable readers by seeing that hate is supportive by Hsiung as he states that support takes precedence, will not infect the minds of our young people here to go on hating so that "support" can abound.
The tragedy here is that readers could be defrauded by Hsiung and his henchmen to hate others as being supportive. That could cause people in depression taking the drugs promoted here by Hsiung to be drawn down into a suicidal mind-set and a homicidal mind set even to commit mass-murder as psychologists are researching as we speak. This also can induce bullying as being supportive as Hsiung allows the continual hatred against me to be seen as being civil by him.
Lou
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