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Posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:03:42
Hello everyone.
Through the years, I've always visited this website for information but have never posted.If there is one place where I could get some advice, I believe it would be here.
Please excuse me, but I cannot make this story short...still, I'll try shorten it.
I am a male, 30 years old at the end of his rope here.
When I entered puberty at 14 I started feeling rushes of adrenaline with the smallest triggers, severe physical anxiety followed and then I started worrying for small stuff with mild OCD. All of this happened in the course of 5 months, out of the blue.
I will not explain all I've been through, I will just put a list of the meds I've been on and their efficacy and duration.
I must note, that after the prior mental anxiety-worrying and mild OCD, those symptoms completely disappeared in the course of 2 months. I was left with severe panic and physical anxiety to the point where I couldn't get out of bed or function.
Physical anxiety got so severe, my mom could not vacuum in my room because the noise would drive me nuts. I was bedridden.
15 years old: Maprotiline
For 1 month, can't recall dosage.
Result: No efficacy, grumpy and increased pulse - over 100bpm when sitting still.17 years old, still no diagnosis: Pimozide + Biperiden
For 2 months, low doses.
Result: Nearly died, lost my night vision, developed paranoia (?!) and felt like I was out of this world, but I couldn't express the things I was going through. Hell on Earth, literally.18 years old, first diagnosis of Panic disorder with Agoraphobia: Lexapro + Klonopin.
Dosage: Very, very slow increase from 1/4 of 10mg Lexapro and 1/4 of 0.5mg Klonopin.
Duration: 5 years.
Result: I was feeling great the first 3 years, started going out with a family member (exposure therapy), fell in love, things were looking up. After 3 years it started wearing off and I substituted it with tons of alcohol, which increasingly made things worse.23 years: A whole bunch.
After getting SEVERE physical anxiety, I was on a roller coaster of drugs.
Lexapro was discontinued and I was put on Zoloft 200mg for 1 month - Didn't do anything.
Paxil 10mg for 1 week - Made me even more anxious.
Valdoxan - 4 days, but I guess I had withdrawal from the SSRI's and I quit it, thinking it was the med.
Tianeptine for a month - I felt a bit better on it, but I gave up quickly, because I thought it wasn't doing much and I couldn't get back to the places I used to go before quickly enough.
Celexa 20mg - I reacted sort of OK to it. It took quite some time before I was able to start trying to go out and actually not feel extreme physical anxiety, but I stuck with it for about 1.5 years, until it stopped working too.24 years old.
Started Effexor 75mg. Instantly I felt amazingly better. I even walked to the city limits without a car/backup plan/anxiety or anything like that. For 5 days I was doing amazing, then it stopped, but it controlled my anxiety amazingly. Sadly, it slowly made me very grumpy and depressed.
Increased to 150mg and again - 5 days of bliss, which suddenly stopped.
I was on this drug for 5 years, I was again able to go out to some extend, but was depressed and didn't feel like it.At 26 after noticing my testosterone levels were below the chart and female hormones above range, I was given a T injection which drove my anxiety up the roof and I was prescribed Valproate, which helped with anxiety, but made me even more dull. I took it for about an year with no benefits and stopped it.
At 27 my condition got progressively worse.
I was put on a cocktail of Clomipramine + Citalopram + carbamazepine + Haloperidol for 2 months, which didn't help, only made me a mess and groggy.I was left only on Clomipramine, which made my anxiety acutely worse.
I quickly switched back to Effexor for relief.
Meanwhile I had short trials with:
Trazodone, Flupentixol as addon to Effexor and many more I can't remember right now.Last year, when I was 29, I couldn't take my prison anymore, so I decided to try Duloxetine, which gave me fever for 3 days and all of a sudden - panic attacks and severe anxiety + derealization which left me unable to leave my home more than 200 meters away.
I also had to switch to generic Klonopin and my dose now is 0.25mg in the morning and 0.5mg in the evening, but it doesn't help.
I tried Fluoxetine - no effect for 2 weeks, Fluvoxamine - increased anxiety - 2 weeks.
Got back to my "savior" Effexor, but I would still get panic attacks EVEN AT HOME, or after short exercise (2 years ago I was training for 3 hours per day). The evenings turned into hell, once it hit 10p.m. Anxiety would skyrocket and I even called my mother to spend several nights at home.
I had also slipped into SEVERE depression.I was put on Paxil + Remeron 7.5mg, which made me aggressive and extremely sleepy - 16+ hours per night.
I removed the paxil and stayed on remeron 7.5mg in the evenings which helped me to the point where I could go out and buy groceries and helped with panic attacks, but my depression was becoming so severe, that I became suicidal - something that is out of my character completely.
I have worked with 5 psychologists - they all agree that there is nothing wrong with my mentality and one of them suggested searching for a biological reason - did an MRI under anesthesia - all is fine. None of them could help me the least bit.
The last two psychiatrists I worked with literally gave up - one used the term "I abdicate" and the other one said that he doesn't see anything else that could be done in my case since I've tried it all.
I'm completely on my own, isolated, no friends because I can't go out 100 meters away from my home and I am SEVERELY depressed.
I prescribed myself Nardil, got it imported and was on it for 2 weeks slowly increasing the dosage. I was crying all the time and just felt worse.
I am currently on Amitriptyline 25mg in the morning and Valdoxan 25mg in the evening for a week, stuffing myself with Klonopin to survive the anxiety attacks.
My symptoms are:
Severe depression, low self-esteem, lack of desire for anything - sex, work, training.
Feeling tired.
No motivation for anything - I had an insane drive about everything I started.
I don't want to talk to anyone - I was the best person to be around! I was always smiling and
laughing - this is a dramatic change.I sleep over 14 hours a day. Then I nap in the afternoon again.
I'm suicidal to some point.
I do not feel pleasure in ANYTHING and I do mean ANYTHING. It's hard to believe, but it's a fact.
If I run or train, I get a rush of anxiety and/or the next day my whole body is absolutely stiff.
My body sometimes becomes stiff for no reason and I'm in constant need of massage.
Anxiety gets worse in the evening.
My body sometimes stiffens severely in the evenings and I have to overdose on Klonopin.
Other fun facts about me:
If I wake up after 10am, I always have anxiety.Anxiety occurs the second I wake up, without any triggers or prior stressors.
When I talk about anxiety - I mean physical anxiety. I do not worry or anything like that.
No OCD, no depression until an year ago, no fear of dying or heart attack or anything like that - only fear of the panic attacks, which occurs only prior to exposure.A cup of coffee has made me severely sick to the point of nearly blacking out.
I often would wake up with sweaty palms and a lump in my chest, ridden with "anxiety" without any triggers.
I'm extremely sad.
My blood sugar levels drop rapidly and often. Sweets fix it.
There is more, but right now my biggest issue is the severe depression that I need to get over in order to survive.
Please, please help me with any advice available. I'm literally just left to die, my whole family suffers, knowing that I'm at the end of my life and they can't do anything.
If you have questions - just ask.
Any advice would be ran through my current psychiatrist, who said nothing else could be tried.
Sorry for the long post again.
Posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:07:07
In reply to In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:03:42
I forgot to add, that when I had to cross to generic Klonopin, I tried Ativan at a higher dose according to the Ashton manuals but I would get panic attacks out of the blue in the evenings, so benzo tolerance is something that needs considering.
Posted by J Kelly on May 12, 2016, at 16:06:11
In reply to Re: In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:07:07
Hello RA,
I hesitate to answer your post as I am not a pdoc and there are people here much smarter than I. However, I can tell you what is working for me after MANY failed med trials.
Klonopin, 18 years. Current dose .5mg 3x day
Zyprexa, several years. 5mg per day
Nardil, 7 weeks, 60 mg per dayI suffered from MDD and Anxiety. Nardil has almost completely knocked out my depression, and klonopin and Zyprexa greatly reduce my anxiety.
I hope you get some valuable advice here. Good luck,
Jade :)
PS-I did very well on Parnate, Ritalin, and klonopin for a while.
Posted by Zyprexa on May 12, 2016, at 19:24:40
In reply to Re: In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:07:07
I'm going to suggest zyprexa, which is what I take. 19 years now. It is great for anxiety. It gets me out of the house. When I don't take it I can't leave the house. It will not make you suicidal, probably the oposite. Only problem is it won't cure the depression. I take zoloft for that. I'm still a bit depressed, but much better than when off meds.
Guess i can't get perfection. Zyprexa will make you tired, I take bupropion sr for that. If I don't take zyprexa I have severe panic and axiety attacks. I've been taking it so long and it still works, just as in the beginning. No tolerance or addiction with it.
Posted by Zyprexa on May 12, 2016, at 19:37:08
In reply to In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:03:42
One thing about zyprexa is it starts to work on anxiety right away. You will feel relife in less than an hour. So you should know right away if its going to work. Its a super calming med. Which will stop the adrenalin. It will make you smarter and help you concentrate.
I'm also taking perphenazine which keeps me from getting angree. Those are my 4 meds.
You might want to come off the amitriptaline if you start zyprexa. So you are not so tired. But if amitriptaline is good for your depression you might not want to do that.
Posted by Zyprexa on May 12, 2016, at 19:45:18
In reply to Re: In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Zyprexa on May 12, 2016, at 19:37:08
Also zyprexa is a very powerfull meds. So start with a small dose, like 5mg. You can cut the pills. I do that and take them 3 times a day for better relife.
Posted by Rather Anonymous on May 13, 2016, at 5:01:22
In reply to Re: In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Zyprexa on May 12, 2016, at 19:45:18
Thank you so much for your advice.
After I had a devastating experience with an antipsychotic - Pimozide and no benefit from Flupentixol, I have not considered anti-psychotics again.
I have tried Haloperidol in low doses in severe anxiety and it does work somewhat, but I can't sleep after that, because my legs "won't stop moving".Considering anti-psychotics, which would be the one with best anti-depressant action ?
I was offered Abilify by my doc and I have Sulpiride at home which I have not even opened.
SSRI's don't seem to do anything about my depression anymore
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 13, 2016, at 7:12:17
In reply to In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:03:42
> Hello everyone.
> Through the years, I've always visited this website for information but have never posted.
>
> If there is one place where I could get some advice, I believe it would be here.
>
> Please excuse me, but I cannot make this story short...still, I'll try shorten it.
>
> I am a male, 30 years old at the end of his rope here.
>
> When I entered puberty at 14 I started feeling rushes of adrenaline with the smallest triggers, severe physical anxiety followed and then I started worrying for small stuff with mild OCD. All of this happened in the course of 5 months, out of the blue.
>
> I will not explain all I've been through, I will just put a list of the meds I've been on and their efficacy and duration.
>
> I must note, that after the prior mental anxiety-worrying and mild OCD, those symptoms completely disappeared in the course of 2 months. I was left with severe panic and physical anxiety to the point where I couldn't get out of bed or function.
>
> Physical anxiety got so severe, my mom could not vacuum in my room because the noise would drive me nuts. I was bedridden.
>
> 15 years old: Maprotiline
> For 1 month, can't recall dosage.
> Result: No efficacy, grumpy and increased pulse - over 100bpm when sitting still.
>
> 17 years old, still no diagnosis: Pimozide + Biperiden
> For 2 months, low doses.
> Result: Nearly died, lost my night vision, developed paranoia (?!) and felt like I was out of this world, but I couldn't express the things I was going through. Hell on Earth, literally.
>
> 18 years old, first diagnosis of Panic disorder with Agoraphobia: Lexapro + Klonopin.
> Dosage: Very, very slow increase from 1/4 of 10mg Lexapro and 1/4 of 0.5mg Klonopin.
> Duration: 5 years.
> Result: I was feeling great the first 3 years, started going out with a family member (exposure therapy), fell in love, things were looking up. After 3 years it started wearing off and I substituted it with tons of alcohol, which increasingly made things worse.
>
> 23 years: A whole bunch.
> After getting SEVERE physical anxiety, I was on a roller coaster of drugs.
> Lexapro was discontinued and I was put on Zoloft 200mg for 1 month - Didn't do anything.
> Paxil 10mg for 1 week - Made me even more anxious.
> Valdoxan - 4 days, but I guess I had withdrawal from the SSRI's and I quit it, thinking it was the med.
> Tianeptine for a month - I felt a bit better on it, but I gave up quickly, because I thought it wasn't doing much and I couldn't get back to the places I used to go before quickly enough.
> Celexa 20mg - I reacted sort of OK to it. It took quite some time before I was able to start trying to go out and actually not feel extreme physical anxiety, but I stuck with it for about 1.5 years, until it stopped working too.
>
> 24 years old.
> Started Effexor 75mg. Instantly I felt amazingly better. I even walked to the city limits without a car/backup plan/anxiety or anything like that. For 5 days I was doing amazing, then it stopped, but it controlled my anxiety amazingly. Sadly, it slowly made me very grumpy and depressed.
> Increased to 150mg and again - 5 days of bliss, which suddenly stopped.
> I was on this drug for 5 years, I was again able to go out to some extend, but was depressed and didn't feel like it.
>
> At 26 after noticing my testosterone levels were below the chart and female hormones above range, I was given a T injection which drove my anxiety up the roof and I was prescribed Valproate, which helped with anxiety, but made me even more dull. I took it for about an year with no benefits and stopped it.
>
> At 27 my condition got progressively worse.
> I was put on a cocktail of Clomipramine + Citalopram + carbamazepine + Haloperidol for 2 months, which didn't help, only made me a mess and groggy.
>
> I was left only on Clomipramine, which made my anxiety acutely worse.
>
> I quickly switched back to Effexor for relief.
>
> Meanwhile I had short trials with:
> Trazodone, Flupentixol as addon to Effexor and many more I can't remember right now.
>
> Last year, when I was 29, I couldn't take my prison anymore, so I decided to try Duloxetine, which gave me fever for 3 days and all of a sudden - panic attacks and severe anxiety + derealization which left me unable to leave my home more than 200 meters away.
>
> I also had to switch to generic Klonopin and my dose now is 0.25mg in the morning and 0.5mg in the evening, but it doesn't help.
> I tried Fluoxetine - no effect for 2 weeks, Fluvoxamine - increased anxiety - 2 weeks.
> Got back to my "savior" Effexor, but I would still get panic attacks EVEN AT HOME, or after short exercise (2 years ago I was training for 3 hours per day). The evenings turned into hell, once it hit 10p.m. Anxiety would skyrocket and I even called my mother to spend several nights at home.
> I had also slipped into SEVERE depression.
>
> I was put on Paxil + Remeron 7.5mg, which made me aggressive and extremely sleepy - 16+ hours per night.
>
> I removed the paxil and stayed on remeron 7.5mg in the evenings which helped me to the point where I could go out and buy groceries and helped with panic attacks, but my depression was becoming so severe, that I became suicidal - something that is out of my character completely.
>
> I have worked with 5 psychologists - they all agree that there is nothing wrong with my mentality and one of them suggested searching for a biological reason - did an MRI under anesthesia - all is fine. None of them could help me the least bit.
>
> The last two psychiatrists I worked with literally gave up - one used the term "I abdicate" and the other one said that he doesn't see anything else that could be done in my case since I've tried it all.
>
> I'm completely on my own, isolated, no friends because I can't go out 100 meters away from my home and I am SEVERELY depressed.
>
> I prescribed myself Nardil, got it imported and was on it for 2 weeks slowly increasing the dosage. I was crying all the time and just felt worse.
>
> I am currently on Amitriptyline 25mg in the morning and Valdoxan 25mg in the evening for a week, stuffing myself with Klonopin to survive the anxiety attacks.
>
> My symptoms are:
>
> Severe depression, low self-esteem, lack of desire for anything - sex, work, training.
>
> Feeling tired.
>
> No motivation for anything - I had an insane drive about everything I started.
>
> I don't want to talk to anyone - I was the best person to be around! I was always smiling and
> laughing - this is a dramatic change.
>
> I sleep over 14 hours a day. Then I nap in the afternoon again.
>
> I'm suicidal to some point.
>
> I do not feel pleasure in ANYTHING and I do mean ANYTHING. It's hard to believe, but it's a fact.
>
> If I run or train, I get a rush of anxiety and/or the next day my whole body is absolutely stiff.
>
> My body sometimes becomes stiff for no reason and I'm in constant need of massage.
>
> Anxiety gets worse in the evening.
>
> My body sometimes stiffens severely in the evenings and I have to overdose on Klonopin.
>
> Other fun facts about me:
> If I wake up after 10am, I always have anxiety.
>
> Anxiety occurs the second I wake up, without any triggers or prior stressors.
>
> When I talk about anxiety - I mean physical anxiety. I do not worry or anything like that.
> No OCD, no depression until an year ago, no fear of dying or heart attack or anything like that - only fear of the panic attacks, which occurs only prior to exposure.
>
> A cup of coffee has made me severely sick to the point of nearly blacking out.
>
> I often would wake up with sweaty palms and a lump in my chest, ridden with "anxiety" without any triggers.
>
> I'm extremely sad.
>
> My blood sugar levels drop rapidly and often. Sweets fix it.
>
> There is more, but right now my biggest issue is the severe depression that I need to get over in order to survive.
>
> Please, please help me with any advice available. I'm literally just left to die, my whole family suffers, knowing that I'm at the end of my life and they can't do anything.
>
> If you have questions - just ask.
>
> Any advice would be ran through my current psychiatrist, who said nothing else could be tried.
>
> Sorry for the long post again.R_A,
What you describe is the ntrance way to death. Thousands of people are killed by these drugs each month and thousands have their lives ruined with addiction and being in a spiral of death from the drugs.
Let us reason together. If all these drugs have done this to you, why would more drugs turn you around out of the spiral to death?
You see, it has been revealed to me that we are human beings with a spirit. This spirit is the light of life that separates us from a rock that is lifeless. This Light of Life can shine again, out of the darkness of addiction and depression and you could return to the green fields that you used to know.
The posters here that want to lead you to more drugs do not state the adverse consequences that could cause your death. This could seriously mislead you to think that these drugs advocated here are safer than they really are.
Lou
Posted by J Kelly on May 13, 2016, at 8:03:51
In reply to In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:03:42
Hello,
I'm so sorry you are going through this.
All I have to offer is my own regimen that is working well.
5mg Zyprexa. This calms me and controls my anxiety. It also helps me sleep.
.5mg Klonopin 3x per day prn. This also helps with my anxiety and sleep.
60mg Nardil. This med effectively killed my depression. Would it be possible for you to try the Greenstone brand? Others have recommended this brand and its what I'm currently taking.
Finally, is it possible you are suffering from hypoglycemia? I tested positive for this. If I don't eat quality food every couple hours I can get symptoms like anxiety, sweating, weakness, fatique, etc etc. I saw a nutritionist for this. Maybe you could too.
Good luck to you,
Jade
Posted by J Kelly on May 13, 2016, at 8:06:12
In reply to In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:03:42
Oops. Looks like I already posted to this thread. Sorry.
Jade
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 13, 2016, at 8:44:06
In reply to Re: In URGENT need of help. Left to die » Rather Anonymous, posted by J Kelly on May 13, 2016, at 8:03:51
> Hello,
>
> I'm so sorry you are going through this.
>
> All I have to offer is my own regimen that is working well.
>
> 5mg Zyprexa. This calms me and controls my anxiety. It also helps me sleep.
>
> .5mg Klonopin 3x per day prn. This also helps with my anxiety and sleep.
>
> 60mg Nardil. This med effectively killed my depression. Would it be possible for you to try the Greenstone brand? Others have recommended this brand and its what I'm currently taking.
>
> Finally, is it possible you are suffering from hypoglycemia? I tested positive for this. If I don't eat quality food every couple hours I can get symptoms like anxiety, sweating, weakness, fatique, etc etc. I saw a nutritionist for this. Maybe you could too.
>
> Good luck to you,
>
> JadeFriends,
Be not deceived. The poster here advocates the taking of the combination of drugs listed by her here.
But the poster does not specify the adverse consequences that could befall the taker of is concoction of death. You see, when these drugs are combined, their effects are increased exponentially. In this case, the combination goes to the centers of control in your brain regulating heart and respiration in your central nervous system. The havoc that the drugs could do could cause death by stroke, seizure and other aspects related to the depression and also attack of the central nervous system also causing impaired thinking so that death could come from not understanding your environment as you could become so impaired, you could jump of a building thinking that you will be safe to do so.
And worse, addiction sets in with these drugs as the benzodiazepine listed is one of the worst of it's kind. And you parents trying to decide to believe the psychiatrists that pander these drugs or not, I say grab your son, your daughter out of the hands of the panderers of death, for the deception here is the devil's playground.
Lou
Posted by Lamdage22 on May 13, 2016, at 13:24:11
In reply to Lou's urgent warning- » J Kelly, posted by Lou Pilder on May 13, 2016, at 8:44:06
You are psychotic Lou. And so are the people that listen to this nonsense. Do you want to know what actually happened when i tried to follow your advice?
Well it all ended with me being on 4 antipsychotics. So thanks very much, Lou. You are a genius!
Posted by Lamdage22 on May 13, 2016, at 13:30:51
In reply to Re: Lou's urgent warning-, posted by Lamdage22 on May 13, 2016, at 13:24:11
And this cant decrease the respect in which you are held because you arent held in respect by anyone.
Posted by Rather Anonymous on May 13, 2016, at 15:36:42
In reply to Re: Lou's urgent warning-, posted by Lamdage22 on May 13, 2016, at 13:30:51
Lou Pilder, thank you for participating, but unfortunately you are not contributing.
There was a reason for me to start drugs.
I have also tried twice to stop them and the last time I tried I was with a rope around my neck.
I'm afraid that I cannot stop medication due to the fact that either I am addicted or I do need it. I can't tell which one. I do approve the med-free approach you have, but unfortunately, this is not my case, since I spent April med free and voila - an even worse depression that nearly got me killed.Unfortunately, Nardil didn't work for me at all as I mentioned. It made me extremely moody.
Today I desperately called a random psychiatrist from another city, where they supposedly have better care.
She was quite rude and I didn't like her at all, so I decided to follow her advice! lol
Tomorrow I'm starting a combo:
Clomipramine 2x10mg morning and noon.
Flupentixol 3x0.5mg morning noon and afternoon.
Amitriptyline 2x25mg in the evening.
I will resume my Klonopin as usual.Last time I tried Clomipramine I ended up with severe anxiety and gave up on 10mg only.
We'll see how this goes and I'll keep you updated.
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 13, 2016, at 16:08:46
In reply to Re: Lou's urgent warning-, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 13, 2016, at 15:36:42
> Lou Pilder, thank you for participating, but unfortunately you are not contributing.
> There was a reason for me to start drugs.
> I have also tried twice to stop them and the last time I tried I was with a rope around my neck.
> I'm afraid that I cannot stop medication due to the fact that either I am addicted or I do need it. I can't tell which one. I do approve the med-free approach you have, but unfortunately, this is not my case, since I spent April med free and voila - an even worse depression that nearly got me killed.
>
> Unfortunately, Nardil didn't work for me at all as I mentioned. It made me extremely moody.
>
> Today I desperately called a random psychiatrist from another city, where they supposedly have better care.
>
> She was quite rude and I didn't like her at all, so I decided to follow her advice! lol
>
> Tomorrow I'm starting a combo:
> Clomipramine 2x10mg morning and noon.
> Flupentixol 3x0.5mg morning noon and afternoon.
> Amitriptyline 2x25mg in the evening.
> I will resume my Klonopin as usual.
>
> Last time I tried Clomipramine I ended up with severe anxiety and gave up on 10mg only.
> We'll see how this goes and I'll keep you updated.R_A,
I have posted over and over that people kill themselves in withdrawal from these drugs. If I was permitted by Mr. Hsiung to post what I need here to lead people out of the darkness of dependence to their drugs, they could not be harmed during that period. Your cessation of your drugging did not have my perspective to use for I have not posted it here yet. I understand that you wanted to kill yourself and I have posted about that here.
In regards to you starting a new combination of drugs, you question as to if you are addicted or not. The taking of these drugs can cause dependence in a short period of time without the drugger knowing it. This can cause the drugger to take more drugs to offset as they think the first drug and on and on until they have multiple addictions that could lead to death by them taking multiple drugs like you list here.
Since I have not posted here the method to be free from these drugs, but have warned that stopping the drugs could cause suicidal thoughts, that means that stopping the drugs is not what I could post about that could lead you out of the misery that you are in. What the Way is from my perspective would be that you do take something every day. But it is free without price and transforms your mind to have the power to overcome. By following the panderers of mind-altering drugs, the chemical nerve agents in them decrease your power to overcome so that the drugger looses even the ability to reason because the drugs act on the frontal lobes where cognition is. The drugs chemically give you a lobotomy. What I could say could restore that humanness that has been taken away by the drugs. In your case, I see that there s not much time left.
Lou
Posted by Zyprexa on May 13, 2016, at 18:02:38
In reply to Re: In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 13, 2016, at 5:01:22
Abilify has the best AD effect. But it is also likely to make axiety worse.
Zyprexa probably won't make your legs move or any other movement disorders. The only problem with zyprexa is it will make you eat and tired.
You would ptobably want an AD too though.
Posted by J Kelly on May 13, 2016, at 18:08:49
In reply to Lou's urgent warning- » J Kelly, posted by Lou Pilder on May 13, 2016, at 8:44:06
To coin a phrase from Robert Burton:
You, Mr Pilder, strike me as a narcissist with a persecution complex. You are, in your current state, incapable of entering into reasonable dialogue, and you seem to prefer to bully and frighten than to reason. One would hope you would seek appropriate medical treatment yourself.
Jade
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 13, 2016, at 19:54:41
In reply to Re: In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Zyprexa on May 13, 2016, at 18:02:38
> Abilify has the best AD effect. But it is also likely to make axiety worse.
>
> Zyprexa probably won't make your legs move or any other movement disorders. The only problem with zyprexa is it will make you eat and tired.
>
> You would ptobably want an AD too though.Friends,
The poster writes,[...Zyprexa probably won't make your legs move...the only problem with Zyprexa is that it will make you eat...].
Be not deceived. This is misinformation that could seriously mislead you to your death. And the psychiatrist here allows this false report to be seen here as being supportive.
This allowing of false reports that could seriously mislead you, is a tactic of deceit that could induce you to think in false terms that could lead you to death.
This drug could cause sudden death. And death by diseases such as diabetes. And tardive dyskinesia could come from this drug.
I question the legality of this poster being allowed to post this trash when a psychiatrist is allowing it. He says that overgeneralizing is not kosher here. But mothers could kill their child by drugging them with this drug thinking that it is safer than it really is because a psychiatrist allows the fallacy. What a farce.
Lou
Posted by Rather Anonymous on May 14, 2016, at 15:31:20
In reply to Lou's urgent waring-what a farce » Zyprexa, posted by Lou Pilder on May 13, 2016, at 19:54:41
Ok, things here escalated rather quickly.
Please do not post in this thread unless you have some useful information that could aid me in my struggle, instead of arguing. This is not what I need.Thank you guys.
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 14, 2016, at 16:19:55
In reply to Re: Lou's urgent waring-what a farce, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 14, 2016, at 15:31:20
> Ok, things here escalated rather quickly.
> Please do not post in this thread unless you have some useful information that could aid me in my struggle, instead of arguing. This is not what I need.
>
> Thank you guys.R_A,
Please do not tell how to post here. I am trying to save lives including yours. My posts are warnings and responses that other readers could use to make a more-informed decision as to believe the false statements and lies being promoted here as being supportive. This is all because a psychiatrist here states in his TOS that being supportive takes precedence. These lies being allowed to promote drugs that are not medicines because they do not treat a disease or cure, could seriously mislead readers to think that these drugs are safer than tey really are and induce death to innocent readers.
Lou
Posted by ClearSkies on May 16, 2016, at 23:06:45
In reply to Re: Lou's urgent waring-what a farce, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 14, 2016, at 15:31:20
> Ok, things here escalated rather quickly.
> Please do not post in this thread unless you have some useful information that could aid me in my struggle, instead of arguing. This is not what I need.
>
> Thank you guys.Sorry about that.
My journey has been similar in that nothing has really worked for long. I'm kinda sorta stable at present, but was suicidal before the last medication about-turn. Hardly a poster girl.I have no motivation whatever. My therapist pared me down to 4 basic tasks per day, everything else was gravy. That helped more than I thought, because I was finally achieving something.
The other weird thing I will suggest because I am trying it too is that I posit we've overworked our adrenal system and our bodies don't know how to regulate, never mind respond to a medication.
There's also the idea that we've become inflamed internally after all these years of depressiin and anxiety. Or that inflammation caused it. Take your choice.
So to deal with those two ideas, I take Ashwagandha to support my adrenal system, and peppermint oil capsules for inflammation. Your burps taste great, btw.
I like Deplin for the boost it gives my antidepressant response. Also I respond to Abilify. Both are now generic.
My anxiety is kept mostly/sorta/not really controlled by .5mg x 3-4 times a day as needed.It's not much of an answer...take your pick.
Nice to meet you.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on May 29, 2016, at 13:38:52
In reply to In URGENT need of help. Left to die, posted by Rather Anonymous on May 12, 2016, at 15:03:42
Hi there,
What an awful time you've been through.
I'd suggest that taking a lot of clonazepam may be making you feel worse. The short-term relief may be followed by feeling more depressed and less in control. I recognise that if may be very difficult, but I think you would benefit from keeping your clonazepam dose to the absolute minimum possible.
In terms of antipsychotics, you obviously need to be extremely cautious. Avoid all traditional antipsychotics, and high doses of any. You could try amisulpride at 25mg, increasing to 50mg. If it is going to help, it may do so within a couple of weeks. Quetiapine can sometimes help depression, and does not normally cause restlessness. Olanzapine could also be tried at a very low dose eg. 2.5mg.
I see you've tried the MAOI Nardil but not tranylcypromine. Tranylcypromine is quite different to Nardil and may be worthy of consideration.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on May 29, 2016, at 14:52:35
In reply to Re: OP Urgent Help Needed » Rather Anonymous, posted by ClearSkies on May 16, 2016, at 23:06:45
>>I like Deplin for the boost it gives my antidepressant response.
It's a good idea though. He/she could try an antidepressant which has worked before, such as Lexapro, plus Deplin.
Something like this might help:
1. Reduce clonazepam to the minimum to avoid worsening depression.
2. Stop amitriptyline and restart something which worked before eg. Lexapro.
3. Add Deplin, or an equivalent if unavailable in his country.
4. Consider adding a low dose of an atypical antipsychotic eg. quetiapine, amisulpride or olanzapine.
5. Consider stopping the above and trying tranylcypromine if ineffective.
This is the end of the thread.
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