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Posted by jonhed on May 3, 2016, at 18:09:08
I just want to say to everyone on this forum: Thank you!
Thank you for posting your experiences, thank you for being humble, honest and supportive to everyone that seeks help in depression, mania or psychosis.
I get all warm and emphatic when i think about how many hours i've spent here and how much it has helped me.
At least two years i've been an active lurker, and that concludes like at least(!) 2 hours a day.
When i looked it up on the calculator, it is over 30 days of active reading.
Absolute amazing and i don't regret one hour of it.
Without trigger someone, i think that i would've maybe be in a very dark place without your advises.
I choose to stop there.I'm meeting a new pdoc next week hopefully and going to ask for nardil and high dose of clonazepam or nitrazepam as i taper up nardil. I very much liked the chemistry in maoi drugs and find it very interesting. i got an 6 month prescription parnate for about a year ago but could just eat one and got panic attacks and extreme paranoia over the tyramine reaction and hypocondrical, witch i clinically am, but it was unbearable. i could not continue because i didn't had an anxiolytic to cope with my initial hypocondria (my hypocondria is mainly that i think, every second of the day, that i'm going to die from every substance i take. even ssri.)
But i really can't live like this anymore, i am very suicidal because of my inability to function as i have strong social fobia and and personality disorder.okey, conclusion.
Do someone think i would be helped by that combination and did i make myself understood?
That i can take every medication if i have benzo the first month, untill i feel sure about the substance
I was thinking this:
day 1 - Nardil 15mg clonazepam 3mg
Week 2 - Nardil 30mg clonazepam 3mg
week 3 nardil 45-60mg clonazepam 3mg
then taper of the clonazepam slow slow slow, until i am completely calm about the side effects.
I am that type who has to do this drastic things because science i've got to a point when everything started to feel dangerous at my heart, even if it's not the case, in my head it is. science then i've not taken one medicine, this is 1 whole year now and i can't get through the first 3 days on new medication. i's f*ck*ng horrible and i don't want to live like this anymore.
All i'm asking my pdoc for is some benzos to make it less scary in the beginning. couse i need nardil, i just know it.
but i CAN'T without a benzo at the start.I hope this goes well, couse i can't go on living in this fear anymore. i am suicidal and i hate myself for being like this, i really HATE myself. i'm f*cking worthless as a human.
do you guys think i have a good plan?
I'm gonna be consequent on this one for my pdoc. this or nothing. no more b*llsh*t medicationsed over 40 different combinations of everything from antipsychotics-antidepressants (every antidepressants we have in sweden, and it's alot, same with the antipsychotic, an bare with me now - i am not psychotic, that was also for SA.
I don't feel like writing the whole list but i think most of you know what i've been through, changing meds and that stuff.Does it sound like a good idea?
i start buprenorphine in august, and that is for psychiatric problems and addicition (been clean for a year now). and bup on and maoi, that can't be a better combo on me i think.
LOVE TO ALL OF YOU / J
Posted by J Kelly on May 3, 2016, at 23:30:26
In reply to Blessed with psycho babble., posted by jonhed on May 3, 2016, at 18:09:08
> I just want to say to everyone on this forum: Thank you!
> Thank you for posting your experiences, thank you for being humble, honest and supportive to everyone that seeks help in depression, mania or psychosis.
> I get all warm and emphatic when i think about how many hours i've spent here and how much it has helped me.
> At least two years i've been an active lurker, and that concludes like at least(!) 2 hours a day.
> When i looked it up on the calculator, it is over 30 days of active reading.
> Absolute amazing and i don't regret one hour of it.
> Without trigger someone, i think that i would've maybe be in a very dark place without your advises.
> I choose to stop there.I'm so glad you're getting benefit from this site!
I've been in the "dark place" and its no fun :(>
> I'm meeting a new pdoc next week hopefully and going to ask for nardil and high dose of clonazepam or nitrazepam as i taper up nardil. I very much liked the chemistry in maoi drugs and find it very interesting. i got an 6 month prescription parnate for about a year ago but could just eat one and got panic attacks and extreme paranoia over the tyramine reaction and hypocondrical, witch i clinically am, but it was unbearable. i could not continue because i didn't had an anxiolytic to cope with my initial hypocondria (my hypocondria is mainly that i think, every second of the day, that i'm going to die from every substance i take. even ssri.)
> But i really can't live like this anymore, i am very suicidal because of my inability to function as i have strong social fobia and and personality disorder.I'm sorry to hear this. I'm taking 60mg Nardil per day along with .5 mg klonopin 3x day prn.
Other than a few uncomfortable days at start up I'm finding that I have no s/e's! Your mileage may vary of course.
>
> okey, conclusion.
>
> Do someone think i would be helped by that combination and did i make myself understood?Yes and yes. Nardil is a miracle med so far for my depression.
>
> That i can take every medication if i have benzo the first month, untill i feel sure about the substance
>
> I was thinking this:
>
> day 1 - Nardil 15mg clonazepam 3mg
>
> Week 2 - Nardil 30mg clonazepam 3mg
>
> week 3 nardil 45-60mg clonazepam 3mg
>
> then taper of the clonazepam slow slow slow, until i am completely calm about the side effects.Sounds good. Although you may want to stay on a low dose of klonopin until you've really settled into Nardil.
>
> I am that type who has to do this drastic things because science i've got to a point when everything started to feel dangerous at my heart, even if it's not the case, in my head it is. science then i've not taken one medicine, this is 1 whole year now and i can't get through the first 3 days on new medication. i's f*ck*ng horrible and i don't want to live like this anymore.I'm so sorry that you go through this. If my experience so far is any indication, I say go for it. Even if I had s/e's to deal with the benefit it so worth it *so far*. I'm going into my 4th week.
>
> All i'm asking my pdoc for is some benzos to make it less scary in the beginning. couse i need nardil, i just know it.
> but i CAN'T without a benzo at the start.I hear you and I think klonopin is a perfect choice.
>
> I hope this goes well, couse i can't go on living in this fear anymore. i am suicidal and i hate myself for being like this, i really HATE myself. i'm f*cking worthless as a human.You are not worthless! You are depressed and I urge you to give Nardil a good trial. Be a patient patient though :)
>
> do you guys think i have a good plan?I do.
> I'm gonna be consequent on this one for my pdoc. this or nothing. no more b*llsh*t medicationsed over 40 different combinations of everything from antipsychotics-antidepressants (every antidepressants we have in sweden, and it's alot, same with the antipsychotic, an bare with me now - i am not psychotic, that was also for SA.
From what I've heard here and else where, many people who have trialed many meds and many med combinations end up doing very well on Nardil.
> I don't feel like writing the whole list but i think most of you know what i've been through, changing meds and that stuff.
>
> Does it sound like a good idea?To me it does.
>
> i start buprenorphine in august, and that is for psychiatric problems and addicition (been clean for a year now). and bup on and maoi, that can't be a better combo on me i think.I can't comment on this. Clean for a year, that's great! Keep going!
Good luck :)
Jade
Posted by Christ_empowered on May 4, 2016, at 4:21:22
In reply to Re: Blessed with psycho babble. » jonhed, posted by J Kelly on May 3, 2016, at 23:30:26
Do they Rx Valium in Sweden? 40mgs/day Valium would technically only=2mgs/clonazepam, but its easier to taper. 40mgs/day was, I think, fairly standard before Valium was demonized...10mgs 2x daily, 20mgs in the evening. Something like that.My other thoughts would be xanx xr or maybe ativan.
I just think...well, clonazepam does work, but I know I had very bad depression that was at least partially induced by clonazepam. The taper was rough, too...even before the taper, I had early morning agitation and other probs probably at least somewhat due to the Klonopin. So...I'm biased, lol.
Good luck to you, whatever the outcome.
Posted by Lamdage22 on May 4, 2016, at 12:36:39
In reply to Re: Blessed with psycho babble. » jonhed, posted by J Kelly on May 3, 2016, at 23:30:26
i second that. this is a very good place.
Thank you from me also.
Lets hope Dr Bob will return to his project soon.
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