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Posted by CindyL on April 26, 2016, at 16:42:17
Hello, My name is Cindy and I have been a Psych patient since the mid 1990's. During that time I have taken many different drugs for depression, anxiety and bi-polar disorder. I have been on a very high dose of Xanax 2mg x 4 times a day. That's right 8mg of Xanax a day. I have been taking this amount for approximately 8 years. I am losing big chunks of my memory and have become overweight and tired. At my last Psychiatric appt. I told my Doctor that I wanted to do a slow taper off of the Xanax. He seemed very angry about this for some reason. I told him I would like to cut 1mg a month until I was off. Well that idea didn't fly with him. This is what he gave me to taper off of 8mg of Xanax, 3mg of Clonazepam! That is in no way near the amount of Xanax I was on. I talked to my pharmacist about this and she thought it was crazy. She said that I shouldn't be alone if I were even to try this. She feared I would get very sick and have seizures. I mostly live alone as my husband travels all the time. He came home yesterday and I tried this. OMG, I went into almost full blown withdrawal within hours! I ran out of Xanax early one time and had to wait 7 days for a refill and I wound up in the ER. It was the most hellish thing I have ever been through. Doesn't this Doctor have an obligation to get my off this drug comforably and safely? Do any of you think that what he is doing is right? My pharmacist sure didn't think so. I dread going back to him and telling him his mistake. Even knowing I still have one refill of Xanax I am freaking out. I never want to experience withdrawal again. Please help a newbie! I would appreciate any comments or advice. Thanks, Cindy
Posted by CindyL on April 26, 2016, at 16:48:04
In reply to Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax, posted by CindyL on April 26, 2016, at 16:42:17
I'm sorry I posted two of the same messages. I tried sending it in Safari and it said it didn't go through and it did. So then I went to Firefox and sent basically the same thing. Sorry! :(
Posted by Christ_empowered on April 26, 2016, at 17:42:25
In reply to Re: Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax, posted by CindyL on April 26, 2016, at 16:48:04
hi. This...happens. Not always this extreme, but...yeah. I've had docs do quickie tapers off of Klonopin, no concern for the side effects.
I think you bruised his ego when you talked about a taper. Shrinks are like that, especially male shrinks. Personally, I think if you can...you should find another doctor. This is dangerous stuff he's talking about. 8mgs/xanax per day is close to the max (10mgs) and well over the dosage most people take. Considering how long you've been on xanax, I think you may need a sloooooooow taper, maybe off an equivalent dose of Valium (that's a good method). I've read that some docs use phenobarbital, but I don't know anything about that.
Can you get a different doctor? This guy sounds too self-important to be of any good to you. Happens. Family doc, maybe? Xanax is about equal to Klonopin, so what he's talking about is...dangerous.
Shrinks do stuff like this. I had one shrink get red faced and angry when I mentioned, in passing, some withdrawal effects I'd had from a quickie taper off Klonopin. I mean, he cut the appointment short and everything. Crazy. I think we're supposed to completely ignorant and just take whatever they want us to is how many of them want things to work. Ugh.
I dunno if you're interested, but...I take high dose niacinamide for my anxiety. 3 grams, time release, per day. I couple mine with a b-100, lots of vitamin c, and other stuff (the b-100 and the vitamin c are the important add ons). Niacinamide does some things that benzos do, but without the side effects and withdrawal syndrome. I've read that it can help some people as they taper off benzos because it works on some of the same receptors as Rx sedatives.
Hope things work out for you.
Posted by Phillipa on April 26, 2016, at 18:05:42
In reply to Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax, posted by CindyL on April 26, 2016, at 16:42:17
Cindy been on benzos for over 45 years low doses but still benzos. I do not have bipolar illness mine if pure anxiety. Whole family seems to have some form of it. May I ask why you were put on 8mg of xanax and not a longer acting benzos such as valium.? Seems if you google benzo taper you will find a lot of good resources. Personally don't feel the benzos caused weight gain. Weight neutral I believe. Could it be the antipsychotics caused the weight gain or an antidepressant. I've never gained weight from a med. We are all different. Since I take .75 of xanax a day & 10mg of valium at night and have never escalated them not looking to get off them. Don't really work anymore but I do sleep at night. Also take 25mg of luvox and 2.5mg of lexapro. My psychiatrist here said he feels I should continue with the regime so I am. There were times when I just stopped taking benzos and never felt a thing no withdrawal at all. Only when stress is really high do I really need them. Glad to see you found babble. I'm sure some others will be able to answer your questions more throughly than I have. Phillipa
Posted by baseball55 on April 26, 2016, at 18:29:25
In reply to Re: Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax, posted by CindyL on April 26, 2016, at 16:48:04
Withdrawing from 8mg of xanax suddenly is DANGEROUS. This doctor sounds incompetent. Tapering down is the only safe way to do this. I don't know what your finances/insurance is like, but a friend of mine who had been on high doses of xanax for years (for panic attacks, then just kept on the drug), went to a 30-day rehab. She wasn't "addicted" really - in the sense that she wasn't abusing benzos - but she was physically dependent and in danger of seizures if she stopped suddenly.
Sorry this is happening to you. Hope you can find a responsible psychiatrist or go to a rehab to begin a taper. Good luck. Keep us posted!
Posted by Tabitha on April 26, 2016, at 21:06:40
In reply to Re: Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax » CindyL, posted by baseball55 on April 26, 2016, at 18:29:25
Hi Cindy. Sorry to hear you're having such a rough time with your pdoc. I'm not sure how long it would take to get to see another pdoc, so you may be stuck with him for a while. If I were you I'd call and politely tell him the symptoms you're having with the taper. I'd avoid telling him you're in withdrawal and his plan is idiotic. Hopefully he will adjust your clonzepam upward or else let you taper xanax slowly like you wanted to do in the first place. Meanwhile, look for a new pdoc. He's clearly not competent to manage someone on 8mg xanax. Let us know how things turn out.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 27, 2016, at 6:48:26
In reply to Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax, posted by CindyL on April 26, 2016, at 16:42:17
> Hello, My name is Cindy and I have been a Psych patient since the mid 1990's. During that time I have taken many different drugs for depression, anxiety and bi-polar disorder. I have been on a very high dose of Xanax 2mg x 4 times a day. That's right 8mg of Xanax a day. I have been taking this amount for approximately 8 years. I am losing big chunks of my memory and have become overweight and tired. At my last Psychiatric appt. I told my Doctor that I wanted to do a slow taper off of the Xanax. He seemed very angry about this for some reason. I told him I would like to cut 1mg a month until I was off. Well that idea didn't fly with him. This is what he gave me to taper off of 8mg of Xanax, 3mg of Clonazepam! That is in no way near the amount of Xanax I was on. I talked to my pharmacist about this and she thought it was crazy. She said that I shouldn't be alone if I were even to try this. She feared I would get very sick and have seizures. I mostly live alone as my husband travels all the time. He came home yesterday and I tried this. OMG, I went into almost full blown withdrawal within hours! I ran out of Xanax early one time and had to wait 7 days for a refill and I wound up in the ER. It was the most hellish thing I have ever been through. Doesn't this Doctor have an obligation to get my off this drug comforably and safely? Do any of you think that what he is doing is right? My pharmacist sure didn't think so. I dread going back to him and telling him his mistake. Even knowing I still have one refill of Xanax I am freaking out. I never want to experience withdrawal again. Please help a newbie! I would appreciate any comments or advice. Thanks, Cindy
Cindy,
You wrote,[...taking Xanax...losing memory...overweight..tired...withdrawal...the most hellish thing...please help...I would appreciate any comments or advice...].
The evils of drugs live after them. The good is oft short-lived and deceptive. I am here to expose this site, not to praise it.
You see, the drugs that you take have done this. And more drugs could do worse. Did you ever think that you do not have a disease? I'm talking about Xanax and klonopin and life-ruining neuroleptics. Those are chemicals that are not medicines for they do not treat a disease and you do not have a disease.
Now all these fine people that have posted here have been drugging for years. They have addiction and life-ruining conditions and death. They advocate drugs without telling the adverse consequences that could seriously mislead readers to their deaths because they make the drugs seem safer than they really are. Do you want to be part of this deception?
I can lead you out of the darkness of addiction and into a marvelous Light of peace and joy. For the Spirit of Truth has revealed to me the lies of psychiatry that have brought you to a Great Gulf where you could plunge to your death or turn around.
Now your back is against the edge to death and more drugs could push you over the cliff and into a Lake of Fire.
The tragedy here is that Mr. Hsiung is allowing hatred against me to be posted with him giving immunity to those doing so from his enforcement rules. He himself is allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being supportive here because in his thinking by him allowing it, the community will be improved. This turns my stomach.
I can not tell you how you could be delivered from addiction for I am prevented from posting that here due to prohibitions to me by Mr. Hsiung. This would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me which he prohibits me to post here. His policy is against the Jew, for he allows anti-Semitic propaganda and defamation against me to be seen as supportive by him here. His policy then becomes an anti-Semitic policy for to be against the Jew is what anti-Semitism means.
I see that you could suffer a horrible death from these drugs to be a great possibility and your blood will not be upon me.
Lou
Posted by CindyL on April 27, 2016, at 8:07:29
In reply to Re: Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax » CindyL, posted by Phillipa on April 26, 2016, at 18:05:42
Phillipa, I didn't actually have Bi-polar disorder. I was misdiagnosed with that. I have had clinical depression, anxiety and PTSD. I haven't let any Doctor prescribe me a anti-psychotic in years. I watched a show on You Tube last night about Stevie Nicks. She said that she gained 75 lbs. while she was taking Klonopin. The PTSD was from being in multiple car accidents. I would relive them over and over in my mind. I could not drive and basically became agoraphobic. When I first started taking psychiatric drugs I had doctors prescribe seroquel and zyprexa for sleep! Thanks for the welcome to Babble!
Posted by CindyL on April 27, 2016, at 8:18:30
In reply to Re: Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax, posted by Christ_empowered on April 26, 2016, at 17:42:25
I found another Doctor last night. She is willing to help me with a slow taper. I see her this evening for my first appointment. She is a new Doctor in town and is very young. Maybe she will be up on the latest things concerning slow tapers! I am hopeful now! Yesterday I though that if I had to go through with the taper my old Psychiatrist was trying to make me do I would probably not make it. You are so right about my old Psychiatrist. Oh, he is so self important you believe his FaceBook page. I mean his personal page is not private, it is open to the public. The things he posts are unbelievable. Thanks so much for answering my post. I will let everyone know how it goes after tonight.
Posted by CindyL on April 27, 2016, at 8:26:56
In reply to Re: Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax » CindyL, posted by baseball55 on April 26, 2016, at 18:29:25
Thanks so much for replying to my message. I do believe this Doctor is incompetent. My finances are such that I can afford to pay a new Doctor I found who doesn't take insurance at this time. I found her yesterday online and talked to her on the phone about what was going on. I am seeing her tonight at 5:00 for an hour. I haven't been abusing Benzos except for the one time that I ran out early. That was because of a plane trip. I am a very anxious flyer, visiting Grandchildren, not used to screaming kids and then on the way back the plane lost pressure after we had been flying for almost 2 hours and had to fly very low and go back to the airport we left from. It was too early to refill my prescription and I honestly thought I was going to die. I think this Doctor must be some kind of sadist to try and do this to me. Thanks for replying to my post!
Posted by CindyL on April 27, 2016, at 8:29:46
In reply to Re: Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax, posted by Tabitha on April 26, 2016, at 21:06:40
I found another Doctor who says she is willing to help me with a slow taper. I thought about calling that other Doctor but frankly he scares me. I feel intimidated when I talk to him. I have hope now that I'm seeing this new Doctor tonight. Thanks for replying to my post.
Posted by CindyL on April 27, 2016, at 8:34:31
In reply to Lou's response-the tragedy of this site » CindyL, posted by Lou Pilder on April 27, 2016, at 6:48:26
Lou, I agree that psychiatric drugs are no good. I am not sure what you are referring too about the anti-semitism. I definitely am not. My Daughter and family are Jewish. I plan on trying to not take any medications after I get off this drug of any kind. They do more harm than help to many people.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 27, 2016, at 9:00:51
In reply to Re: Lou's response-the tragedy of this site, posted by CindyL on April 27, 2016, at 8:34:31
> Lou, I agree that psychiatric drugs are no good. I am not sure what you are referring too about the anti-semitism. I definitely am not. My Daughter and family are Jewish. I plan on trying to not take any medications after I get off this drug of any kind. They do more harm than help to many people.
Cindy,
You wrote,[...Lou, I agree...what are you referring to concerning the anti-Semitism here?...I plan to try to not take any drugs...They do more harm than help...].
It has been revealed to me how you could overcome the addiction and withdrawal from the benzodiazepine. This revelation is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here. It would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me and the foundation of anti-Semitism is allowed to be promoted here. That makes the site here to have two standards. One is against the Jew as it is against Judaism itself. That makes the policy of Mr. Hsiung that allows anti-Semitic propaganda to be posted here with impunity, to be an anti-Semitic policy which makes this site an anti-Semitic site just as if a university had a rule that held a Jew accountable to but allowed the non-Jews to violate the rule with impunity, that university would be an anti-Semitic university.
The fact that others here can slander me and post anti-Semitic propaganda, shows a disrespect for Jews and fosters hatred toward the Jews. This hatred can be turned inward so that those that get a false feeling of superiority from Mr. Hsiung allowing the anti-Semitic propaganda, could actually be led to kill themselves and/or others as many psychologists study hate groups that take mind-altering drugs. You see, the historical record has shown that it is not good for a community as a whole to allow hatred toward the Jews to be promulgated by the leaders of the group to be seen as being supportive.
Mr. Hsiung is allowing the defamation of the Jews here with posters allowed to post ancient anti-Semitic stereotypes and dehumanizing epithets against the Jews and me as a Jew, that are contained in European fascism.
Then Mr. Hsiung posts the swastika and refuses to take it down. This could lead a subset of readers to think that he endorses hatred toward the Jews and that is why he is allowing defamation against me and the prohibitions to me that others are not held to. He says that is supportive. I say that it nothing more than hatred toward the Jews being allowed under the banner od psychiatry, which was responsible for the murder of millions of Jewish children.
Never again.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on April 27, 2016, at 9:39:18
In reply to Re: Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax, posted by CindyL on April 27, 2016, at 8:07:29
Cindy best of lucky tonight with the new doctor. So depression and PTSD. I just hadn't heard of weight gain on a benzos but we are all different. Let us know how your appointment went. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 27, 2016, at 9:53:33
In reply to Lou's reply-never again » CindyL, posted by Lou Pilder on April 27, 2016, at 9:00:51
> > Lou, I agree that psychiatric drugs are no good. I am not sure what you are referring too about the anti-semitism. I definitely am not. My Daughter and family are Jewish. I plan on trying to not take any medications after I get off this drug of any kind. They do more harm than help to many people.
>
> Cindy,
> You wrote,[...Lou, I agree...what are you referring to concerning the anti-Semitism here?...I plan to try to not take any drugs...They do more harm than help...].
> It has been revealed to me how you could overcome the addiction and withdrawal from the benzodiazepine. This revelation is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here. It would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me and the foundation of anti-Semitism is allowed to be promoted here. That makes the site here to have two standards. One is against the Jew as it is against Judaism itself. That makes the policy of Mr. Hsiung that allows anti-Semitic propaganda to be posted here with impunity, to be an anti-Semitic policy which makes this site an anti-Semitic site just as if a university had a rule that held a Jew accountable to but allowed the non-Jews to violate the rule with impunity, that university would be an anti-Semitic university.
> The fact that others here can slander me and post anti-Semitic propaganda, shows a disrespect for Jews and fosters hatred toward the Jews. This hatred can be turned inward so that those that get a false feeling of superiority from Mr. Hsiung allowing the anti-Semitic propaganda, could actually be led to kill themselves and/or others as many psychologists study hate groups that take mind-altering drugs. You see, the historical record has shown that it is not good for a community as a whole to allow hatred toward the Jews to be promulgated by the leaders of the group to be seen as being supportive.
> Mr. Hsiung is allowing the defamation of the Jews here with posters allowed to post ancient anti-Semitic stereotypes and dehumanizing epithets against the Jews and me as a Jew, that are contained in European fascism.
> Then Mr. Hsiung posts the swastika and refuses to take it down. This could lead a subset of readers to think that he endorses hatred toward the Jews and that is why he is allowing defamation against me and the prohibitions to me that others are not held to. He says that is supportive. I say that it nothing more than hatred toward the Jews being allowed under the banner od psychiatry, which was responsible for the murder of millions of Jewish children.
> Never again.
> LouCindy,
Here is a post that started the creation and development of anti-Semitic hate being allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen as supportive and that he thinks by not posting his tag line to be civil, that his community will be improved.
That is the same ill-logic that is used to justify slavery and infanticide and segregation and genocide, that it will be good for the community as a whole.
Take a look at this post that you see by bringing up the post and clicking on the link contained in the post. There you will see how Mr. Hsiung thinks of the Jews and allows readers to think that he is endorsing the hate, for he then made a procedure for the poster to post even more anti-Semitism with impunity as I will show you if interested.
The tragedy here is that anti-Semitism is based on lies against the Jews. Here, the lies against the Jews are being allowed over and over, while my pleas to Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record to stop them from being seen as civil. When lies are being allowed to be seen as supportive, you know that the rest of what the posters here are going to tell you could also be lies tat could lead you to your death. Be not deceived, the anti-Semitic mind is the devil's playground.
Lou
Here is the post and look at the link contained in it
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1067799.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 27, 2016, at 11:05:39
In reply to Lou's reply-never again-the anti-Semitic mind, posted by Lou Pilder on April 27, 2016, at 9:53:33
> > > Lou, I agree that psychiatric drugs are no good. I am not sure what you are referring too about the anti-semitism. I definitely am not. My Daughter and family are Jewish. I plan on trying to not take any medications after I get off this drug of any kind. They do more harm than help to many people.
> >
> > Cindy,
> > You wrote,[...Lou, I agree...what are you referring to concerning the anti-Semitism here?...I plan to try to not take any drugs...They do more harm than help...].
> > It has been revealed to me how you could overcome the addiction and withdrawal from the benzodiazepine. This revelation is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here. It would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me and the foundation of anti-Semitism is allowed to be promoted here. That makes the site here to have two standards. One is against the Jew as it is against Judaism itself. That makes the policy of Mr. Hsiung that allows anti-Semitic propaganda to be posted here with impunity, to be an anti-Semitic policy which makes this site an anti-Semitic site just as if a university had a rule that held a Jew accountable to but allowed the non-Jews to violate the rule with impunity, that university would be an anti-Semitic university.
> > The fact that others here can slander me and post anti-Semitic propaganda, shows a disrespect for Jews and fosters hatred toward the Jews. This hatred can be turned inward so that those that get a false feeling of superiority from Mr. Hsiung allowing the anti-Semitic propaganda, could actually be led to kill themselves and/or others as many psychologists study hate groups that take mind-altering drugs. You see, the historical record has shown that it is not good for a community as a whole to allow hatred toward the Jews to be promulgated by the leaders of the group to be seen as being supportive.
> > Mr. Hsiung is allowing the defamation of the Jews here with posters allowed to post ancient anti-Semitic stereotypes and dehumanizing epithets against the Jews and me as a Jew, that are contained in European fascism.
> > Then Mr. Hsiung posts the swastika and refuses to take it down. This could lead a subset of readers to think that he endorses hatred toward the Jews and that is why he is allowing defamation against me and the prohibitions to me that others are not held to. He says that is supportive. I say that it nothing more than hatred toward the Jews being allowed under the banner od psychiatry, which was responsible for the murder of millions of Jewish children.
> > Never again.
> > Lou
>
> Cindy,
> Here is a post that started the creation and development of anti-Semitic hate being allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen as supportive and that he thinks by not posting his tag line to be civil, that his community will be improved.
> That is the same ill-logic that is used to justify slavery and infanticide and segregation and genocide, that it will be good for the community as a whole.
> Take a look at this post that you see by bringing up the post and clicking on the link contained in the post. There you will see how Mr. Hsiung thinks of the Jews and allows readers to think that he is endorsing the hate, for he then made a procedure for the poster to post even more anti-Semitism with impunity as I will show you if interested.
> The tragedy here is that anti-Semitism is based on lies against the Jews. Here, the lies against the Jews are being allowed over and over, while my pleas to Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record to stop them from being seen as civil. When lies are being allowed to be seen as supportive, you know that the rest of what the posters here are going to tell you could also be lies tat could lead you to your death. Be not deceived, the anti-Semitic mind is the devil's playground.
> Lou
> Here is the post and look at the link contained in it
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1067799.htmlCindy,
The allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda here by Mr. Hsiung could stoke the furnace of hate because readers could think that not only is Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record endorsing the hate, but that psychiatry itself endorses anti-Semitic hate since the American Psychiatric Association is not interceding here to post a repudiation of Mr. Hsiung's policy of allowing the hate to be seen as civil.
That could be a powerful influence to children looking in here to be led to their deaths. For as the drugs being promoted here as medicines, where they are not because they do not treat a disease and do not cure anything, so shall vulnerable readers have their chance to receive addiction and life-ruining conditions from these drugs as you post here about your addiction that you received now knowing that you have been deceived. And by Mr. Hsiung allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being supportive where it is originally posted, they could be seriously misled to their deaths.
Thousands of people are killed each month by these drugs. And more so as the era of mass-advertising to take a greater grip to lead viewers that they have a disease and need their drug to treat the disease that they do not have. And then they can become addicted and seek another drug and another drug until they are so debilitated from the drugs that they kill themselves as the drugs themselves can increase suicidal thinking.
Here, to allow members to post anti-Semitic propaganda against me with impunity by Mr. Hsiung turns my stomach.
Here is a post by Scott that is allowed to be seen as being supportive by Mr. Hsiung where it is originally posted. Mr. Hsiung says that support takes precedence. That could lead our young people to hate Jews.
Here is the post. The post defames Jews as being unsaved which fostered the Holocaust as Jews were considered not human and going to hell because they were Jews so they could be killed and the killers were not killing human beings in their minds. As the dehumanizing of the Jews is being allowed by Mr. Hsiung. And if this same Scott tells you to take more drugs, don't forget who is allowing him to post lies against the Jews here, and save the last post for me.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
Posted by Tabitha on April 27, 2016, at 11:52:52
In reply to Re: Please Help Me Talk To My Psychiatrist About Xanax, posted by CindyL on April 27, 2016, at 8:29:46
> I found another Doctor who says she is willing to help me with a slow taper. I thought about calling that other Doctor but frankly he scares me. I feel intimidated when I talk to him. I have hope now that I'm seeing this new Doctor tonight. Thanks for replying to my post.
Good for you! I hope it works out. I've tapered off Ativan and Tramadol before. It's really a difficult process. Slow & steady wins the race. Sounds like you have a good plan.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 27, 2016, at 15:27:44
In reply to Lou's reply-never again-lies against the Jews, posted by Lou Pilder on April 27, 2016, at 11:05:39
> > > > Lou, I agree that psychiatric drugs are no good. I am not sure what you are referring too about the anti-semitism. I definitely am not. My Daughter and family are Jewish. I plan on trying to not take any medications after I get off this drug of any kind. They do more harm than help to many people.
> > >
> > > Cindy,
> > > You wrote,[...Lou, I agree...what are you referring to concerning the anti-Semitism here?...I plan to try to not take any drugs...They do more harm than help...].
> > > It has been revealed to me how you could overcome the addiction and withdrawal from the benzodiazepine. This revelation is prohibited by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here. It would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me and the foundation of anti-Semitism is allowed to be promoted here. That makes the site here to have two standards. One is against the Jew as it is against Judaism itself. That makes the policy of Mr. Hsiung that allows anti-Semitic propaganda to be posted here with impunity, to be an anti-Semitic policy which makes this site an anti-Semitic site just as if a university had a rule that held a Jew accountable to but allowed the non-Jews to violate the rule with impunity, that university would be an anti-Semitic university.
> > > The fact that others here can slander me and post anti-Semitic propaganda, shows a disrespect for Jews and fosters hatred toward the Jews. This hatred can be turned inward so that those that get a false feeling of superiority from Mr. Hsiung allowing the anti-Semitic propaganda, could actually be led to kill themselves and/or others as many psychologists study hate groups that take mind-altering drugs. You see, the historical record has shown that it is not good for a community as a whole to allow hatred toward the Jews to be promulgated by the leaders of the group to be seen as being supportive.
> > > Mr. Hsiung is allowing the defamation of the Jews here with posters allowed to post ancient anti-Semitic stereotypes and dehumanizing epithets against the Jews and me as a Jew, that are contained in European fascism.
> > > Then Mr. Hsiung posts the swastika and refuses to take it down. This could lead a subset of readers to think that he endorses hatred toward the Jews and that is why he is allowing defamation against me and the prohibitions to me that others are not held to. He says that is supportive. I say that it nothing more than hatred toward the Jews being allowed under the banner od psychiatry, which was responsible for the murder of millions of Jewish children.
> > > Never again.
> > > Lou
> >
> > Cindy,
> > Here is a post that started the creation and development of anti-Semitic hate being allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen as supportive and that he thinks by not posting his tag line to be civil, that his community will be improved.
> > That is the same ill-logic that is used to justify slavery and infanticide and segregation and genocide, that it will be good for the community as a whole.
> > Take a look at this post that you see by bringing up the post and clicking on the link contained in the post. There you will see how Mr. Hsiung thinks of the Jews and allows readers to think that he is endorsing the hate, for he then made a procedure for the poster to post even more anti-Semitism with impunity as I will show you if interested.
> > The tragedy here is that anti-Semitism is based on lies against the Jews. Here, the lies against the Jews are being allowed over and over, while my pleas to Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record to stop them from being seen as civil. When lies are being allowed to be seen as supportive, you know that the rest of what the posters here are going to tell you could also be lies tat could lead you to your death. Be not deceived, the anti-Semitic mind is the devil's playground.
> > Lou
> > Here is the post and look at the link contained in it
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1067799.html
>
> Cindy,
> The allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda here by Mr. Hsiung could stoke the furnace of hate because readers could think that not only is Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record endorsing the hate, but that psychiatry itself endorses anti-Semitic hate since the American Psychiatric Association is not interceding here to post a repudiation of Mr. Hsiung's policy of allowing the hate to be seen as civil.
> That could be a powerful influence to children looking in here to be led to their deaths. For as the drugs being promoted here as medicines, where they are not because they do not treat a disease and do not cure anything, so shall vulnerable readers have their chance to receive addiction and life-ruining conditions from these drugs as you post here about your addiction that you received now knowing that you have been deceived. And by Mr. Hsiung allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being supportive where it is originally posted, they could be seriously misled to their deaths.
> Thousands of people are killed each month by these drugs. And more so as the era of mass-advertising to take a greater grip to lead viewers that they have a disease and need their drug to treat the disease that they do not have. And then they can become addicted and seek another drug and another drug until they are so debilitated from the drugs that they kill themselves as the drugs themselves can increase suicidal thinking.
> Here, to allow members to post anti-Semitic propaganda against me with impunity by Mr. Hsiung turns my stomach.
> Here is a post by Scott that is allowed to be seen as being supportive by Mr. Hsiung where it is originally posted. Mr. Hsiung says that support takes precedence. That could lead our young people to hate Jews.
> Here is the post. The post defames Jews as being unsaved which fostered the Holocaust as Jews were considered not human and going to hell because they were Jews so they could be killed and the killers were not killing human beings in their minds. As the dehumanizing of the Jews is being allowed by Mr. Hsiung. And if this same Scott tells you to take more drugs, don't forget who is allowing him to post lies against the Jews here, and save the last post for me.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.htmlCindy,
The psychiatrist's drugs are not medicines for they do not treat a disease or cure. They are chemical nerve agents used in insecticides, rat killers, parasitic worm killers and in other poisons and in the commission of mass-murder.
I have studied them into 5 classes. In your case, Xanax is a nerve agent that is also having a fungicide chemical involved. The fungicides kill by disrupting the respiration process in the cells. And worse, the drug goes to the frontal lobe that disrupts the chemical balance there which means that the drug creates a chemical imbalance in your bran, not that you have a chemical imbalance and your brain is deficient in Xanax any more than an alcoholic has a brain deficient in vodka.
The tragic deception by psychiatry that promotes the chemical imbalance myth, is that millions of people will die from these drugs or get addiction and life-ruining conditions.
I am trying to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions. In your situation, based on your past, seizures and sudden death could result from the overload of the chemicals that your brain has been attacked by. And in withdrawal, suicidal thoughts could occupy your mind.
Now it has been revealed to me a way out. This way is not the psychiatrist's way, for it is a way to healing. This healing is a healing of your spirit and heart; a new heart and a new spirit where you drink of the Waters of Life freely to have the Spirit of Truth reveal the darkness of the lies that are leading you to your death and lead you into a marvelous Light of peace and joy.
Let none of these members here deceive you. For if they say that I overgeneralize and exaggerate and to not read my posts, remember that the devil told Adam and Eve not to listen to God that said that they would die if they ate of the fruit. The devil lied.
Lou
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