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Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by ed_uk2010 on January 31, 2015, at 10:08:26

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on January 31, 2015, at 9:25:30

>I'm waiting for Glyx-13 by Naurex. Its a long wait but maybe worth it.

I suppose you could try trazodone while you wait!

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 31, 2015, at 12:20:29

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by ed_uk2010 on January 31, 2015, at 10:08:26

im sleeping OK with 900 seroquel and 15 zyprexa

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 31, 2015, at 12:36:20

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on January 31, 2015, at 12:20:29

I want to be blown out of my mind by antidepressant efficiacy.

I dont want to be normal. What kind of a goal is "normal".

Id prefer normal over the state im currently in but "normal" is not my goal. My goal is "well" and "good".

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by ed_uk2010 on January 31, 2015, at 12:51:36

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on January 31, 2015, at 12:36:20

>What kind of a goal is "normal".

Normal is what most people are. Being truly better than normal on a long term basis generally needs the right life circumstances.

Any drug which 'blows you away' and makes you feel better than normal is likely to be bad news. What goes up will come down.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp » ed_uk2010

Posted by Phillipa on January 31, 2015, at 19:02:50

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by ed_uk2010 on January 31, 2015, at 12:51:36

Ed sounds like Lamadge almost wants to feels manic? PJ

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 3:37:22

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp » ed_uk2010, posted by Phillipa on January 31, 2015, at 19:02:50

Compared to me normal people are hypomanic.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 3:52:40

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 3:37:22

lets replace normal with healthy and lively.

For me normal equals sh*t. Because normal for me is not what normal means to healthy people.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 4:35:23

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 3:52:40

Do you really think that mental health is "normal"?

I dont.

Psychiatry is over glorifying "normal".

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 4:52:32

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 4:35:23

Besides the goal of therapy is being euthymic. "Reasonably positive mood". Not reasonably negative.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 1, 2015, at 7:20:51

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 4:52:32

So, you want to be other people's normal?

Not sure I've ever been quite normal.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 7:41:39

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by ed_uk2010 on February 1, 2015, at 7:20:51

Yes. Healthy and content peoples normal.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 1, 2015, at 8:52:37

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 7:41:39

That's a good aim.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 9:35:34

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 7:41:39

If that would happen i would be blown away.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 1, 2015, at 9:42:48

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 1, 2015, at 9:35:34

> If that would happen i would be blown away.

I think it's something that happens in stages. Through better health, better life situation, friends, circumstances, work etc.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 3, 2015, at 14:04:53

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by ed_uk2010 on February 1, 2015, at 9:42:48

You are probably right.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 3, 2015, at 15:44:48

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by ed_uk2010 on February 1, 2015, at 9:42:48

I am!

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 4, 2015, at 12:52:09

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by ed_uk2010 on February 3, 2015, at 15:44:48

Im moving soon. To be closer to my friends again. Hometown.

Assisted dorm living.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 4, 2015, at 15:59:50

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 4, 2015, at 12:52:09

> Im moving soon. To be closer to my friends again. Hometown.
>
> Assisted dorm living.

How do you feel about moving?

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp » Lamdage22

Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 16, 2015, at 6:13:51

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 4, 2015, at 12:52:09

Hi Lam,

So what do you notice from lithium orotate? And have you tried a variety of doses?

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 16, 2015, at 11:21:07

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on February 16, 2015, at 6:13:51

It stops suicidal thoughts mostly!

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp » Lamdage22

Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 16, 2015, at 12:24:57

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 16, 2015, at 11:21:07

> It stops suicidal thoughts mostly!

It sounds like the effect would be similar to taking a micro-dose of lithium carbonate eg. 100mg/day or less.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 16, 2015, at 12:32:10

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp » Lamdage22, posted by ed_uk2010 on February 16, 2015, at 12:24:57

Yes, that is my experience.

I think people should be on this low dose much more often as i bet im not the only one who gets this effect.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 16, 2015, at 13:01:14

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 16, 2015, at 12:32:10

I think that Lithium Orotate is better at the low dose but maybe thats just me buying into the commercials.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 16, 2015, at 14:15:31

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by Lamdage22 on February 16, 2015, at 13:01:14

>I think that Lithium Orotate is better at the low dose but maybe thats just me buying into the commercials.

I have a feeling there wouldn't be much difference, provided that lithium carbonate was given at a dose containing a comparable amount of lithium, which it rarely is.

Interesting. It reminds of of all the studies suggesting that areas with more lithium naturally present in the water supply have lower rates of suicide and violent crime than areas where there is almost no lithium in the water.

.....there isn't a lot of lithium in any water supply, just tiny quantities. It's interesting to see that it might make a difference. If that is the case, low doses of lithium orotate may indeed make sense.

 

Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 16, 2015, at 14:44:39

In reply to Re: Multiple mechanism with Zyprexa and some atyp, posted by ed_uk2010 on February 16, 2015, at 14:15:31

> Interesting. It reminds of of all the studies suggesting that areas with more lithium naturally present in the water supply have lower rates of suicide and violent crime than areas where there is almost no lithium in the water.
>
> .....there isn't a lot of lithium in any water supply, just tiny quantities. It's interesting to see that it might make a difference. If that is the case, low doses of lithium orotate may indeed make sense.

I think it would make sense.

It has a nice muting effect on those bad thoughts. And possibly actions, too. According to the studies.


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