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Posted by stann on December 30, 2011, at 12:13:03
I have been taking Amitriptyline for 11 night. Started with 5mg.At 5mg the first couple of nights I slept better and was drowsy the next day. I did not sleep as deeply after the first couple of nights. I increased the Amitripyline to 10mg after 6 night and since then I have had insomnia. I have been feeling more anxiety too. With panicy feelings aswell.I am taking this med for anxiety/Depression. I would like to get feed back from others who have used this medicine. I can not tolerate ssri's and am very sensitive to phyc meds, so I use low doses of them. I have tryed most all of them.I recently tryed Clomipramine and nortriptalene but had to stop them do to certain side effects.
Thanks
Posted by tensor on December 31, 2011, at 3:16:27
In reply to Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by stann on December 30, 2011, at 12:13:03
> I have been taking Amitriptyline for 11 night. Started with 5mg.At 5mg the first couple of nights I slept better and was drowsy the next day. I did not sleep as deeply after the first couple of nights. I increased the Amitripyline to 10mg after 6 night and since then I have had insomnia. I have been feeling more anxiety too. With panicy feelings aswell.I am taking this med for anxiety/Depression. I would like to get feed back from others who have used this medicine. I can not tolerate ssri's and am very sensitive to phyc meds, so I use low doses of them. I have tryed most all of them.I recently tryed Clomipramine and nortriptalene but had to stop them do to certain side effects.
>
> ThanksIf you're taking ami for anxiety and depression you're on a very low dose, is there any reason for that? Usual dosing range is between 50-200mg. You must of course consult your pdoc but after almost two weeks you should have reached a target dose of, say, 75-150mg. You can increase with 25mg every three days.
Good luck.
Posted by tensor on December 31, 2011, at 3:24:24
In reply to Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by stann on December 30, 2011, at 12:13:03
I recently tryed Clomipramine and nortriptalene but had to stop them do to certain side effects.
What side effects? Amitriptyline is the strongest TCA and is broken down in the body to nortriptyline, so if you can't tolerate nortrip, chances are you won't tolerate amitrip either. Sorry for being discouraging, what meds have you tried?
Posted by Peter Heuer on December 31, 2011, at 6:08:01
In reply to Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by stann on December 30, 2011, at 12:13:03
Hi,
10 mg of amitriptyline is a very low dose.
You should try 30 mg of this drug.Elavil is a very good sleep aid.
Normal dose for sleep is 30-70 mg.I have been on Elavil for 37 years.
Now I'm on Remeron.Best regards,
Peter Heuer
Posted by SLS on December 31, 2011, at 6:16:42
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by Peter Heuer on December 31, 2011, at 6:08:01
Hi.
> I have been on Elavil for 37 years.
> Now I'm on Remeron.Did you discontinue the Elavil?
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on December 31, 2011, at 10:13:12
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia » stann, posted by tensor on December 31, 2011, at 3:24:24
>so if you can't tolerate nortrip, chances are >you won't tolerate amitrip either.
I can't tollerate nortriptyline but I can tollerate amitriptyline. The reason being is that it is more potent for me at lower doses.
Nortriptyline just doesn't work for me.
Linkadge
Posted by stann on December 31, 2011, at 11:21:39
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia » stann, posted by tensor on December 31, 2011, at 3:24:24
> I recently tryed Clomipramine and nortriptalene but had to stop them do to certain side effects.
>
> What side effects? Amitriptyline is the strongest TCA and is broken down in the body to nortriptyline, so if you can't tolerate nortrip, chances are you won't tolerate amitrip either. Sorry for being discouraging, what meds have you tried?
>
Sexual side effects,overstimulation , sweating,insomnia are a few of the side effects.So far,I am tolerating amitrip better than the others. I found clomip to be the strongest.
Posted by stann on December 31, 2011, at 11:30:26
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by Peter Heuer on December 31, 2011, at 6:08:01
> Hi,
>
> 10 mg of amitriptyline is a very low dose.
> You should try 30 mg of this drug.
>
> Elavil is a very good sleep aid.
> Normal dose for sleep is 30-70 mg.
>
> I have been on Elavil for 37 years.
> Now I'm on Remeron.
>
> Best regards,
> Peter HeuerHi Peter, I know it is a very low dose,but I have to start very low and work my way up slowly. Amitrip is known for its seditive effect but in some peolple it causes insomnia which it has done to me.I started taking it earliier in the day around 3pm yesterday and I did sleep better last night. I tried Remeron years ago and it was a night-mare for me.
Thanks
Posted by stann on December 31, 2011, at 11:31:37
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia » Peter Heuer, posted by SLS on December 31, 2011, at 6:16:42
> Hi.
>
> > I have been on Elavil for 37 years.
> > Now I'm on Remeron.
>
> Did you discontinue the Elavil?
>
>
> - ScottI am still taking it..
Posted by stann on December 31, 2011, at 11:34:12
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by linkadge on December 31, 2011, at 10:13:12
> >so if you can't tolerate nortrip, chances are >you won't tolerate amitrip either.
>
> I can't tollerate nortriptyline but I can tollerate amitriptyline. The reason being is that it is more potent for me at lower doses.
>
> Nortriptyline just doesn't work for me.
>
> LinkadgeWhat dose of amitrip are you on? Did you get insomnia from it?
Thanks
Posted by SLS on December 31, 2011, at 12:20:53
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by stann on December 31, 2011, at 11:34:12
It is sometimes very helpful to include in your subject line the name of the person to whom you are replying. There is a special check-box just below the subject line that will automatically add the name of the person whose post you are replying to.
Just a thought...
- Scott
Posted by stann on December 31, 2011, at 12:59:54
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia » stann, posted by SLS on December 31, 2011, at 12:20:53
> It is sometimes very helpful to include in your subject line the name of the person to whom you are replying. There is a special check-box just below the subject line that will automatically add the name of the person whose post you are replying to.
>
> Just a thought...
>
>
> - ScottThanks.
Posted by Peter Heuer on January 1, 2012, at 9:50:55
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia » Peter Heuer, posted by SLS on December 31, 2011, at 6:16:42
Hi,
I'm very happy to be rid of Elavil.
I always hated that drug.Here comes my present cocktail:
Wellbutrin XL 150 mg
Remeron 45 mg
Lyrica 100 mg
Buspar 40 mg
Fluanxol 1 mgBest regards,
Peter Heuer
Posted by stann on January 1, 2012, at 12:31:53
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by Peter Heuer on January 1, 2012, at 9:50:55
> Hi,
>
> I'm very happy to be rid of Elavil.
> I always hated that drug.
>
> Here comes my present cocktail:
>
> Wellbutrin XL 150 mg
> Remeron 45 mg
> Lyrica 100 mg
> Buspar 40 mg
> Fluanxol 1 mg
>
> Best regards,
> Peter HeuerThat is quite the cocktail. Are you taking that to get relieve from anxiety/Depression? I have tried them all on their own except for Fluanxol.Did you find Amitriptyine stimulating? I think I will stop the low dose I am on.It feels like I am taking Ritalin. I take it early in the day now. I am overstimulated all day and in the later evening the stimulation subsides and I feel better.I think raising the dose would be torture.
Posted by Phidippus on January 1, 2012, at 19:05:08
In reply to Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by stann on December 30, 2011, at 12:13:03
TCAs can increase anxiety. However, this may be a hump you just need to get through. Ask your pdoc for some Klonopin.
Eric
Posted by Peter Heuer on January 2, 2012, at 7:35:54
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia » Peter Heuer, posted by stann on January 1, 2012, at 12:31:53
Hi,
I need medicine for sleep, anxiety and depression.
I didn't find amitriptyline stimulating.
This drug made me very tired, but I slept well.Best regards,
Peter Heuer
Posted by SLS on January 2, 2012, at 7:58:54
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by Peter Heuer on January 2, 2012, at 7:35:54
> Hi,
>
> I need medicine for sleep, anxiety and depression.
>
> I didn't find amitriptyline stimulating.
> This drug made me very tired, but I slept well.
>
> Best regards,
> Peter Heuer
Doxepin (Sinequan) might be worth looking into.
- Scott
Posted by stann on January 2, 2012, at 9:36:10
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia, posted by SLS on January 2, 2012, at 7:58:54
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need medicine for sleep, anxiety and depression.
> >
> > I didn't find amitriptyline stimulating.
> > This drug made me very tired, but I slept well.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Peter Heuer
>
>
> Doxepin (Sinequan) might be worth looking into.
>
>
> - Scott
I tried Doxepin twice. It was nasty.
Posted by stann on January 2, 2012, at 9:50:22
In reply to Re: Amitriptyline (Elavil) causing me to have insomnia » stann, posted by Phidippus on January 1, 2012, at 19:05:08
> TCAs can increase anxiety. However, this may be a hump you just need to get through. Ask your pdoc for some Klonopin.
>
> EricIt feels more like I am taking a stimulant and this effect is unrelenting until it wears off in the evening. My pharmacist said increasing the dose will make it worse. This is very frustrating.I am taking Klonopin.I think it might be the histimine that stimulates me. I have a sensitivity to it.
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