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Posted by Phillipa on October 29, 2010, at 20:05:21
Simple read. Phillipa
http://www.webmd.com/depression/fears-and-facts-about-antidepressants
Posted by 49er on October 30, 2010, at 5:56:43
In reply to Fears + Facts About Antidepressants, posted by Phillipa on October 29, 2010, at 20:05:21
> Simple read. Phillipa
>
> http://www.webmd.com/depression/fears-and-facts-about-antidepressantsHi Phillipa,
Web MD isn't exactly bias free as drug companies contribute significantly to its financing.
See this blog entry by Dr. Daniel Carlat, a psychiatrist, who is definitely not anti-meds.
http://carlatpsychiatry.blogspot.com/search/label/WebMD
By the way, just so people know, when I felt that an anti med website had published research that I thought was biased, I complained to the website owner. As I told Scott in a previous post, it is hard to be completely bias free with anything but with research, at least the conflicts need to be disclosed.
Unless you carefully look as Dr. Carlat did, it is not immediately obvious on this site.
As for the article itself. as usual, drug side effects are minimized by being labeled as rare. Well, if doctors are blowing off complaints by patients about legitimate side effects, (google statins and doctors not taking complaints seriously), of course, nothing is going to get reported to the FDA.
I am assuming it even worse with people with mental illness labels because after all, you can't believe those crazy people. I am being sarcastic by the way.
Anyway, I saw a statistic somewhere that about 2 to 10 per cent of all drug side effects are ever reported to the FDA. So of course, everything is going to be seen as rare.
Even sexual side effects, where are taken more seriously by doctors were blamed on the person's illness in this article.
49er
Posted by Maxime on October 30, 2010, at 8:24:42
In reply to Re: Fears + Facts About Antidepressants, posted by 49er on October 30, 2010, at 5:56:43
> > Simple read. Phillipa
> >
> > http://www.webmd.com/depression/fears-and-facts-about-antidepressants
>
> Hi Phillipa,
>
> Web MD isn't exactly bias free as drug companies contribute significantly to its financing.
>
> See this blog entry by Dr. Daniel Carlat, a psychiatrist, who is definitely not anti-meds.
>
> http://carlatpsychiatry.blogspot.com/search/label/WebMD
>
> By the way, just so people know, when I felt that an anti med website had published research that I thought was biased, I complained to the website owner. As I told Scott in a previous post, it is hard to be completely bias free with anything but with research, at least the conflicts need to be disclosed.
>
> Unless you carefully look as Dr. Carlat did, it is not immediately obvious on this site.
>
> As for the article itself. as usual, drug side effects are minimized by being labeled as rare. Well, if doctors are blowing off complaints by patients about legitimate side effects, (google statins and doctors not taking complaints seriously), of course, nothing is going to get reported to the FDA.
>
> I am assuming it even worse with people with mental illness labels because after all, you can't believe those crazy people. I am being sarcastic by the way.
>
> Anyway, I saw a statistic somewhere that about 2 to 10 per cent of all drug side effects are ever reported to the FDA. So of course, everything is going to be seen as rare.
>
> Even sexual side effects, where are taken more seriously by doctors were blamed on the person's illness in this article.
>
> 49er
>I was going to post something similar, but 49er said it much more eloquently than I ever could.
Posted by Lou Pilder on October 30, 2010, at 8:39:21
In reply to Re: Fears + Facts About Antidepressants, posted by 49er on October 30, 2010, at 5:56:43
XLIXer,
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/health/20100104/msgs/944131.html
Posted by linkadge on October 30, 2010, at 14:44:26
In reply to Re: Fears + Facts About Antidepressants » 49er, posted by Maxime on October 30, 2010, at 8:24:42
I felt that about half the "myths" were facts.
The others were debatable. I do think you can totally become addicted, apathetic, and lose your sex life.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on October 30, 2010, at 21:22:21
In reply to Fears + Facts About Antidepressants, posted by Phillipa on October 29, 2010, at 20:05:21
49er would you please start a thread on the doctors blog on the meds and the brainwashing they go through as all need to read this. I wrote a long answer and lost it. But others need to see what other doctors are saying about meds including statins. BTW my favorite site is Mayo Clinic Phillipa
Posted by 49er on October 31, 2010, at 9:12:03
In reply to Re: Fears + Facts About Antidepressants » Phillipa, posted by Phillipa on October 30, 2010, at 21:22:21
> 49er would you please start a thread on the doctors blog on the meds and the brainwashing they go through as all need to read this. I wrote a long answer and lost it. But others need to see what other doctors are saying about meds including statins. BTW my favorite site is Mayo Clinic Phillipa
Hi Philipa,
Due to insomnia and brain fog, I am not sure what you want me to do.
I think you're asking that I go to webmd and start a thread pretty much saying what I said here. But I am not 100% sure:)
Your communication is fine, its me who isn't comprehending today:)
49er
Posted by maxime on October 31, 2010, at 14:37:02
In reply to Re: Fears + Facts About Antidepressants » Phillipa, posted by 49er on October 31, 2010, at 9:12:03
> > 49er would you please start a thread on the doctors blog on the meds and the brainwashing they go through as all need to read this. I wrote a long answer and lost it. But others need to see what other doctors are saying about meds including statins. BTW my favorite site is Mayo Clinic Phillipa
>
> Hi Philipa,
>
> Due to insomnia and brain fog, I am not sure what you want me to do.
>
> I think you're asking that I go to webmd and start a thread pretty much saying what I said here. But I am not 100% sure:)
>
> Your communication is fine, its me who isn't comprehending today:)
>
> 49er
>
>I don't understand what she means either. I thought she meant start a new thread here on PB.
Posted by Phillipa on October 31, 2010, at 20:34:50
In reply to Re: Fears + Facts About Antidepressants » Phillipa, posted by 49er on October 31, 2010, at 9:12:03
49er yes on PB. I just loved the doctors blog. So interesting to hear it from the other side of the fence and I can't take your website and post as own. Hope that is clearer. Phillipa
Posted by Chan Fook on November 4, 2010, at 12:11:36
In reply to Re: Fears + Facts About Antidepressants » 49er, posted by Phillipa on October 31, 2010, at 20:34:50
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but make sure you are reading and researching from many websites, not just that one. If you see, that section is funded by Eli Lilly, and the depression TV is funded by AstraZeneca.
Not to sound negative and bias against them, but they might not be the best place for an objective view on these drugs.
Just a thought,
Chan Fook.
Posted by Phillipa on November 4, 2010, at 20:48:55
In reply to Re: Fears + Facts About Antidepressants, posted by Chan Fook on November 4, 2010, at 12:11:36
I google many websites when not working on ebay and research a lot look for common denominators. I just thought this was a very interesting site. I feel the more sites you visit the more you are able to form a hypothesis or your own viewpoint. Phillipa
Posted by maxime on November 4, 2010, at 21:09:58
In reply to Re: Fears + Facts About Antidepressants, posted by Chan Fook on November 4, 2010, at 12:11:36
> I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but make sure you are reading and researching from many websites, not just that one. If you see, that section is funded by Eli Lilly, and the depression TV is funded by AstraZeneca.
>
> Not to sound negative and bias against them, but they might not be the best place for an objective view on these drugs.
>
> Just a thought,
> Chan Fook.I agree with you 100 percent.
Posted by cb776 on November 8, 2010, at 9:49:29
In reply to Fears + Facts About Antidepressants, posted by Phillipa on October 29, 2010, at 20:05:21
"Antidepressants make you forget your problems rather than deal with them."
In my experience that is exactly what they do."When administered correctly, antidepressants will not change your personality."
Pretty obvious that they change certain patterns in the personality. Zombie is a description that many people use but not all off course.
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