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Posted by Metamorphosis on September 25, 2010, at 16:21:10
I've been on many different medications over the years foe Depression,S.A.D.,and G.A.D. with some anhedonia. The Lexapro and Wellbutrin did help with the depression for the last year But it seems to have pooped out and I'm stuck with just annoying side-effects (sexual disinterests,weight gain (carb. cravings), tiredness, and complete lack of motivation). Which is driving me nuts for I have been battling these conditions for @ 25yrs. with time only making the conditions worse. I do use a high dose of Klonopin 4mg, that is the only thing working at this point. But I want to reduce it and eventually get off of. Which I know Nardil could help with it's effect on GABA. The negatives I read are; weight gain,sexual dysfunction, and fatigue. All of which would make everything worse.
I'm leaning toward Parnate because people seem to experience more activating qualities, no sexual issues, and weight loss. All good for me! But from what I've read doesn't really work on GABA which is essential for my reducing Klonopin. Is that true? And insomnia of which there are some options.
I also take Dexedrine which I've heard can be safe at low levels 5mgs. Don't know?
So my questions being: how have these meds. worked for you? Which seems to help more with S.A.D.,G.A.S., & atypical depression? How restrictive are the dietary restrictions?; as I have read many lists and it seems like it could be condensed and simplified? Is Emsam as effective (not concerned about price). Is Nardil still considered "the gold standard" for these conditions?
So it comes down to These three:Emsam,Nardil, or Parnate?
Thanks for reading and all replies!!!
Posted by bulldog2 on September 25, 2010, at 16:47:47
In reply to Lexapro/Wellbutrin cr*pp*d out...Thinking MAOI, posted by Metamorphosis on September 25, 2010, at 16:21:10
> I've been on many different medications over the years foe Depression,S.A.D.,and G.A.D. with some anhedonia. The Lexapro and Wellbutrin did help with the depression for the last year But it seems to have pooped out and I'm stuck with just annoying side-effects (sexual disinterests,weight gain (carb. cravings), tiredness, and complete lack of motivation). Which is driving me nuts for I have been battling these conditions for @ 25yrs. with time only making the conditions worse. I do use a high dose of Klonopin 4mg, that is the only thing working at this point. But I want to reduce it and eventually get off of. Which I know Nardil could help with it's effect on GABA. The negatives I read are; weight gain,sexual dysfunction, and fatigue. All of which would make everything worse.
> I'm leaning toward Parnate because people seem to experience more activating qualities, no sexual issues, and weight loss. All good for me! But from what I've read doesn't really work on GABA which is essential for my reducing Klonopin. Is that true? And insomnia of which there are some options.
> I also take Dexedrine which I've heard can be safe at low levels 5mgs. Don't know?
> So my questions being: how have these meds. worked for you? Which seems to help more with S.A.D.,G.A.S., & atypical depression? How restrictive are the dietary restrictions?; as I have read many lists and it seems like it could be condensed and simplified? Is Emsam as effective (not concerned about price). Is Nardil still considered "the gold standard" for these conditions?
> So it comes down to These three:Emsam,Nardil, or Parnate?
> Thanks for reading and all replies!!!Nardil would be best for your condition but yes there would be more sides. Someone not long ago used diet to control weight gain and a dopamine agonist for sexual issues.
Posted by Metamorphosis on September 25, 2010, at 17:35:14
In reply to Re: Lexapro/Wellbutrin cr*pp*d out...Thinking MAOI, posted by bulldog2 on September 25, 2010, at 16:47:47
I believe Nardil would help more with the GABA/SAD part of the equation. But what would the point be if your tired or sleeping all the time but no SAD,GAD, depression. I can't see the logic in that. Does anyone take Parnate and have positive results with SAD/GAD?
Posted by Maxime on September 25, 2010, at 20:16:07
In reply to Re: Lexapro/Wellbutrin cr*pp*d out...Thinking MAOI, posted by Metamorphosis on September 25, 2010, at 17:35:14
I have two online friends who take Parnate to treat the depression and SAD/GAD. They are so happy with the results! Nardil didn't work for them, and one could not handle the side effect she was getting from the Nardil. They are so happy that they were able to try Parnate.
Posted by Metamorphosis on September 25, 2010, at 20:26:21
In reply to Re: Lexapro/Wellbutrin cr*pp*d out...Thinking MAOI » Metamorphosis, posted by Maxime on September 25, 2010, at 20:16:07
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> I have two online friends who take Parnate to treat the depression and SAD/GAD. They are so happy with the results! Nardil didn't work for them, and one could not handle the side effect she was getting from the Nardil. They are so happy that they were able to try Parnate.
>That sounds like a dream to me. how long have they been on it? and do you know their dosages? Do they have any major complaints?
Posted by Maxime on September 26, 2010, at 21:33:30
In reply to Re: Lexapro/Wellbutrin cr*pp*d out...Thinking MAOI, posted by Metamorphosis on September 25, 2010, at 20:26:21
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One my friends (and she actually came from the US to spend a week with me, so she is not really just an online friend anymore) takes 110 mg. She has been on it for 12 years now. She was originally on 80 mg but over the years has had to increase it a bit. She doesn't have any side effects.My friend takes 80 mg and has been on it for 2 years. When she first started the med she had insomia for a while, but that went away in a few months.
I take it for depression, but it has helped my anxiety. I used to take Seroquel for anxiety but I gained a lot of weight on it. But now I don't get the anxiety I used to have. I am bipolar so it is hard for to tell what is anxiety and what is hypomania. I do take a mood stabiliser, Trileptal, with the Parnate because I am bipolar.
I really hope you get to try this med. It's not for everyone, but it's worth a try.
Maxime
Posted by creepy on September 29, 2010, at 8:49:51
In reply to Lexapro/Wellbutrin cr*pp*d out...Thinking MAOI, posted by Metamorphosis on September 25, 2010, at 16:21:10
What really helped my carb cravings on celexa was a tiny dose of topamax. Whether this would help someone else is anyones guess.
I used to crave french fries. But topamax turned that off like a switch.
There have been studies using metformin along with AAPs that showed good results.. but I havent read anything that shows SSRIs benefit from it.
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