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Posted by floatingbridge on September 1, 2009, at 14:24:13
So, I think I'm understanding that Strattera 'hits' a different part of the brain than Wellbutrin.
So an NE reuptake inhibitor like Strattera could still be of benefit to me when Wellbutrin failed?
Using Strattera would leave me w/o any seretonin effect?
I see my pdoc again and would like to be able to connect the dots for myself just a bit more.
Sorry if I seem dense, (and have more than three threads going!)
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(and I accidentally posted this to the Neuro board)
Posted by maxime on September 1, 2009, at 17:46:16
In reply to thinking it thru: strattera when wellbutrin failed, posted by floatingbridge on September 1, 2009, at 14:24:13
If your pdoc isn't used to prescribing Strattera be sure that you are started on a very low dose. Strattera is an enemic and you will feel very nausea and probably throwing up if you start the dosage too high. That's what happened to me and it wasn't pretty.
Posted by Phillipa on September 2, 2009, at 0:42:42
In reply to Re: thinking it thru: strattera when wellbutrin failed » floatingbridge, posted by maxime on September 1, 2009, at 17:46:16
Maxime why is that? I'm going to google it. Floating bridge good luck tomorrow. Love Phillipa
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 2, 2009, at 13:05:11
In reply to Re: thinking it thru: strattera when wellbutrin failed » floatingbridge, posted by maxime on September 1, 2009, at 17:46:16
hey maxime, havent seen you here in while, hope your doing good.
FB,
I took Strattera, and what happened it just caused a reaction with 40mg (at the time)Prozac, racer about 2 years ago looked it up, Prozac 25mg Strattera. It causes insomnia because both Prozac and Strattera work on NE (norepenphrine), and it causes "anxiety", "irribiblity", i guess because NE is at high levels.2003 I took Strattera alone, improved attention, not much focus, Provigel (Nugivel) is similar to it, yet Provigel has stimulating effect's, stattera isnt that noticable. There both similar, alertness..(doesnt do much with dopamine, that other stimulant's do) Coffee provides some attention/alertness (diffrent than other's) improvement, yet that's been known for years. Dexedrine Spansules, took, those helped with focus, and intrest, in a subject that is bland, yet for some reason, it doesnt help with attention as much, Adderall is better for both attention/focus. Yet it's well-known for having to re-dose.
That's what I wanted to share.
Posted by maxime on September 2, 2009, at 13:34:54
In reply to Re: thinking it thru: strattera when wellbutrin failed, posted by Phillipa on September 2, 2009, at 0:42:42
Because it's an enemic. I don't know why it is one, but when I looked on RX List it stated that it was.
Posted by maxime on September 2, 2009, at 13:53:52
In reply to Re: thinking it thru: strattera when wellbutrin failed, posted by Phillipa on September 2, 2009, at 0:42:42
I did a search on Strattera and vomitting and I got a lot of hits. Found this on one web site:
Strattera side effectsMost common Strattera side effects in children & teenagers - a stomach of the frustration, the reduced appetite, a nausea & vomitting, dizziness, weariness, & a mood swing. Some children can test loss of weight. The most common side effects in adults - dream of problems, the dry mouth, the reduced appetite, a stomach of frustration, a nausea or vomitting, dizziness, problems urinating & sexual side effects. In rare cases, Strattera causes allergic reactions, such as liquid accumulation (hypostasis) or beehives which can be serious.
Posted by floatingbridge on September 2, 2009, at 15:30:43
In reply to strattera and Prozac, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 2, 2009, at 13:05:11
Thanks, rj! Yes, I'm thinking that dex isn't as good for focus, either--but is good for motivation and social aspects.
And I don't now what to think because, if i read your post correctly, I didn't do well on Wellbutrin.
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Posted by floatingbridge on September 2, 2009, at 15:38:09
In reply to Re: thinking it thru: strattera when wellbutrin failed » Phillipa, posted by maxime on September 2, 2009, at 13:53:52
This whole idea is beginning to sound like a bad one to me (of course, I am down at the moment, so everything does!). Thanks Maxine and Phillipa for the info.
I still don't understand why if Wellbutrin did not work, Strattera could. Cr*ipes, I wish I understood this chemistry more.
a very unenthusiastic, (and frustrated, let's tip all the meds into the bin, no, wait! I need them!),
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Posted by maxime on September 2, 2009, at 16:29:20
In reply to Re: thinking it thru: strattera when wellbutrin fa » maxime, posted by floatingbridge on September 2, 2009, at 15:38:09
I would try the Desipramine before the Strattera. It has a better side effects profile and is very good for both depression and ADD.
Strattera was going to be marketed as an antidepressant until it was found out that it helped ADD more than depression. Now it's marketed as a non stimulant med. for ADD.
I'm sorry that you are feeling so down and frustrated at the moment. I don't blame you one bit. *hugs*
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 4, 2009, at 0:03:58
In reply to Re: strattera and Prozac » rjlockhart04-08, posted by floatingbridge on September 2, 2009, at 15:30:43
Well, from what i understand it increases "intrest" in things that usally your not "thrilled" about, that's to my say.
Levoamphetamine increases talking, and speech, alertness/ more "body feeling". Adderall helped me with that, yet re-dosing wasnt nice. while dextroamphetamine (spansules) from where i see it, it's just better than levoamp, less cardiovastular effect's, yet it still "a" stimulant. Nuvigiel right now is replaced that, it's going well, not as well-in social improvment aspect's (intrest), and motivation. Yet it's better than nothing.
Anyways, Strattera has a bit less side effect's than Wellbutrin -(irrtiblity, and anxiety) for me. Not for anyone. Prozac slightly increases motivation, yet it doesnt re-uptake DA transporter's. Zoloft actually increases DA levels past 200mg, yet it's sero saturated. I cannot find the direct study where it stated this, i read alot in 2004-2005, then just "stopped", because i said "what's the big deal?"
Here's what I pulled uphttp://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20070119/msgs/724214.html
Posted by floatingbridge on September 4, 2009, at 0:18:58
In reply to Re: strattera and Prozac, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 4, 2009, at 0:03:58
Hey RJ,
I really appreciate your response and the links you provided. I'm going to read the babble thread you linked to right after I write this.
Zoloft was my first ad. I remember being very spacey on it--and still socially anxious. That it effects dopamine at higher doses I didn't know. I think I was only at a max of 75.
Thank you so much--I hope things are going better and better for you!
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