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Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:26:03
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2009, at 20:49:11
Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:32:19
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by floatingbridge on June 28, 2009, at 21:04:05
Yeah I know what you mean. Mine new endo has this 6 weeks lab results to show me the better of the two, armour or synthetic. I have read some interesting information about some people need to augment their synthetic with armour because neither of them alone is enough. So save that thought. IT will take time because of the nature of it all, the way your body responds and your doc's views.
I am not sure why most endo's aren't willing to take views that include all available treats.I know that my new GI uses a very basic old medication for my collagenous collits and when I expressed my surprise about him supporting the use of a very old medication, he said sometimes the best meds are those that have been around for a while. He said it will help you. He is right it has and I only have about 2 more weeks on it and then he said should be done until it flares up again and to repeat the treatment as needed for flareups. He said it might, might make it stay gone. HUH I needed to find this guy years ago.
Now if only I could find an endo like him. If I need to I will ask him for recommendation or go to a holistic doc, a medical doctor certified in anti-aging.
That site has so much and he , Dr. Wilson has an excellent book. I got it and it helped me help my adrenals which are now functioning much better.
take care and good luck
rsk
Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:33:03
In reply to RSK: Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by floatingbridge on June 28, 2009, at 21:08:16
No Mary Solomon. Google thryoid information and she is on the about.com site.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:33:41
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2009, at 21:49:17
Nope your are right I misspelled her name. I always do add an extra o.
rsk
Posted by Phillipa on June 29, 2009, at 19:23:20
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » Phillipa, posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:33:41
Rsk why can't the doc with the colitis be your thyroid doc too? Endos at least here don't listen. Google antiading doctors in your location see who turns up. Phillipa
Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 21:42:53
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by Phillipa on June 29, 2009, at 19:23:20
I think Phillipa because he is a gastroenterologist and I don't think he would handle it.
I found a doctor here that specializes in treating the whole person, whom I believe could help with all, including the psyche thing, he is a trained md and psychiatrist. He specializes in biochemistry, physiology and inflammatory responses that occur in the brain and body and treats the body as a whole unit to help try and customize treatment and reduce the # of presciptions medications. He also is certified in advanced clinical psychopharmacology. The biggest problem is he doesn't accept insurance.
I think I would like to go to him to see if he could handle the endo issues. Plus the hormonal issues I think are still a problem. Or is just that my thyroid isn't doing completely better and maybe it will never be better than now.
It is all so confusing.
But thanks for the suggestion.
rsk
Posted by floatingbridge on June 29, 2009, at 22:52:34
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 21:42:53
Wow. this doc sounds great (and expensive).
good luck!
Posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 20:07:07
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 21:42:53
Reminds me a bit of the doc paid out of pocket for for the bioidenticals. Lady patient has my endo and says she takes armour and feels great. All I know is I don't feel great and am always wired and tired. I seriously know it's the thyroid as didn't have the problems I have til hasimotos. Keep me informed okay please? Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 20:12:04
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 20:07:07
Phillipa,
What type of thyroid are you taking?
FB
Posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 21:57:39
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 20:12:04
Synthroid. Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 22:01:43
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 21:57:39
Synthroid hasn't been keeping my hashimoto's in check. pdoc (of all people) switched me to levoxyl. (After a concerned talk about armour).
More later
fb
Posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 22:12:01
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 22:01:43
Tease!!!!!! Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 22:18:06
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 22:12:01
: D
Posted by softheprairie on July 1, 2009, at 7:19:42
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 22:01:43
> Synthroid hasn't been keeping my hashimoto's in check. pdoc (of all people) switched me to levoxyl. (After a concerned talk about armour).
>
> More later
>
> fbIsn't levoxyl just a generic form of Synthroid?
Posted by floatingbridge on July 1, 2009, at 12:41:12
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by softheprairie on July 1, 2009, at 7:19:42
Hi!
No, it's not a generic. I think something else that begins with an L is a generic form of sythroid. By any name, however, it still isn't a t3t4 combo--but by now I am so confused!
fb
Posted by Phillipa on July 1, 2009, at 19:09:54
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » softheprairie, posted by floatingbridge on July 1, 2009, at 12:41:12
FB think it's generic never positive though will goggle it. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on July 1, 2009, at 19:17:25
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on July 1, 2009, at 19:09:54
Yes it is. See WebMd Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on July 1, 2009, at 20:20:55
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by Phillipa on July 1, 2009, at 19:17:25
So what is it I'm taking? I forget! : )
Posted by Phillipa on July 1, 2009, at 21:35:22
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on July 1, 2009, at 20:20:55
Same as synthroid or unithroid generic but synthroid isn't. All I know is there is controversy over thyroid meds googled once and synthroid was grandfathered in? Phillipa
Posted by rskontos on July 1, 2009, at 22:17:41
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by softheprairie on July 1, 2009, at 7:19:42
No Levoxyl is a name brand according to my endocrinologist.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on July 1, 2009, at 22:23:18
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by Phillipa on July 1, 2009, at 19:17:25
No Phillipa Levoxyl is the brand name.
"Levoxyl® is indicated for thyroid hormone replacement or supplemental therapy for hypothyroidism. Levoxyl® is contraindicated in patients with untreated thyrotoxicosis, acute myocardial infarction, uncorrected adrenal insufficiency, or hypersensitivity to any of its inactive ingredients. Levoxyl® is protected by U.S. Patent Number 6,555,581"Levoxyl is the brand name for levothyroxine. There are other manufacturers that make a generic for Levoxyl. This is from the PI sheet and my endo. It is only T4. There are other brands of dessicated thyroid medications that Armour is only one brand name. All of which contain T3/T4 combo.
Does that help?
rsk
Posted by rskontos on July 1, 2009, at 22:28:11
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on July 1, 2009, at 21:35:22
The controversy is synthetic, no matter the brand or generic versions, and natural in the form of dessicated pig thyroid. Most endos don't like the dessicated version. But Dessicated pig thyroid meds like armour have been around so long and are just as regulated by the FDA as synthetics. And both synthetics and the natural versions of thyroid hormones have had to recall batches due to inconsistencies.
so it is big pharm versus old school that is the debate.
both can help some, sometimes only one is needed and sometimes a combo of both is needed. It is up to the person and not by the prescribing doctors wishes (or so it should be).rsk
Posted by softheprairie on July 1, 2009, at 23:53:14
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » softheprairie, posted by rskontos on July 1, 2009, at 22:17:41
> No Levoxyl is a name brand according to my endocrinologist.
>
> rskThere are a few different cases of meds like this where the wording can be confusing on whether something is "brand name" or "generic."
I think this is how it goes:
For example, for ADD/ADHD (and other things) there was the original Ritalin, and after it lost its patent exclusivity, others could sell methylphenidate; one maker of generic methylphenidate gave it the new "brand" name of "Methylin," but it is the same active ingredient as methylphenidate.Same with the antidepressant Wellbutrin. When the immediate-release form lost its patent exclusivity, others could make generic bupropion, and one generic maker gave it the new "brand" name of budeprion, but it is the same active ingredient as bupropion.
Levoxyl is a "brand name" equivalent to Synthroid. Synthroid, Levoxyl, and levothyroxine all have the same active ingredient (and, like you said, are just T4). Not that one should trust Wikipedia, but entering into a search engine "levoxyl" and "wikipedia" redirects to the Wikipedia entry for the generic active ingredient of levothyroxine, since Wikipedia policy is to have the subject heading of medication entries be the generic name.
A pharmacy chain in my geographical area has levothyroxine on the $4 list and lists the corresponding brand name equivalents as Synthroid/Levoxyl.
http://www.dillons.com/generic/Pages/thyroid.aspx
Posted by floatingbridge on July 2, 2009, at 11:28:24
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by rskontos on July 1, 2009, at 22:28:11
I think thyolar is a pharm med that has t3/4 combo.
My pdoc--who is against armour--says one can develop anti-bodies to the armour itself since it is animal gland. another doc has seconded this. How common this is, no one has said. I'm still debating what to do....
FB
Posted by Phillipa on July 2, 2009, at 19:58:51
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by rskontos on July 1, 2009, at 22:23:18
Rsk yes thanks what other names are there for amour? Thyroid can get complicated. Phillipa
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