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Posted by Rocky-Exentric on November 11, 2008, at 3:30:21
hello all,instead of ending it altogether, my doc told me to take 6 1mg xanax pills and three 2 mg ativans. he said at least you can live as long as pills work. there is a schedule, xanax every four hours. ativan right after xanax.
i am in a fog now. slurred speech.. ataxia, blunted emotions.. but there is no way. even ECT failed me. any of you think i will have a life like this?
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 11, 2008, at 10:22:35
In reply to xanax 12 mg. will i have a life? i am 40, posted by Rocky-Exentric on November 11, 2008, at 3:30:21
Wow...that's defineltly a case study. Did he ever put you Lithium, anti-suicidal medication. But, I take Xanax 2mg X 3 daily, but that's because of a severe nueroligical disorder. Xanax lasts for 2-3 hours, Ativan lasts exactly 5-6 hour, but is less potent.
You have tried Electric Shock Therapy? my gosh.....that is old old 1940's treatment, memory loss i've read is usally assoicated with the after effects, even though it "shocks" your brain..... but have you considered prescription stimulants? with an antidepressant? Prozac....., or Luvox would be better because it takes care of anxiety by increase of serotonin and balance.
rj
Posted by JadeKelly on November 11, 2008, at 18:45:41
In reply to xanax 12 mg. will i have a life? i am 40, posted by Rocky-Exentric on November 11, 2008, at 3:30:21
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> instead of ending it altogether, my doc told me to take 6 1mg xanax pills and three 2 mg ativans. he said at least you can live as long as pills work. there is a schedule, xanax every four hours. ativan right after xanax.
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> i am in a fog now. slurred speech.. ataxia, blunted emotions.. but there is no way. even ECT failed me. any of you think i will have a life like this?Hello Rocky,
I can't imagine a doc prescibing all those benzos to someone who is suicidal. Are you in the hospital? Because I think that would be a good place for you to be while they come up with a better plan than the one you are currently following. Can you get to a good hospital? Post back and let us know how you are.
~Jade
Posted by desolationrower on November 11, 2008, at 19:40:15
In reply to Re: xanax 12 mg. will i have a life? i am 40, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 11, 2008, at 10:22:35
i agree, at least a small level of lithium can be very helpful reducing suicide urges, which would be good until you can find something to help you feel better. there is always more things to try or combinations to look into. hope you're feeling more hopeful.
-d/r
Posted by Rocky-Exentric on November 12, 2008, at 10:14:10
In reply to Re: xanax 12 mg. will i have a life? i am 40, posted by desolationrower on November 11, 2008, at 19:40:15
you people don't know how many meds I tried to treat my depression. lithium is no exception. now, getting rid off all meds because none offers relief i am with benzos. of course huuuuge dose. a dose equivalent 12mg of xanax. none in this board should have taken such an amount. but for me to function this much is required. two weeks so far on the combo. 6mg of xanax and same amount of ativan.it is life. i can throw it away at any time, but as long as this work and my doc cooperates i will carry on. if this stops working, then i know what to do because i haven't signed any treaty with anyone. i can end it at anytime because it is my life.
Posted by JadeKelly on November 12, 2008, at 11:25:06
In reply to Re: xanax 12 mg. will i have a life? i am 40 » desolationrower, posted by Rocky-Exentric on November 12, 2008, at 10:14:10
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> you people don't know how many meds I tried to treat my depression. lithium is no exception. now, getting rid off all meds because none offers relief i am with benzos. of course huuuuge dose. a dose equivalent 12mg of xanax. none in this board should have taken such an amount. but for me to function this much is required. two weeks so far on the combo. 6mg of xanax and same amount of ativan.
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> it is life. i can throw it away at any time, but as long as this work and my doc cooperates i will carry on. if this stops working, then i know what to do because i haven't signed any treaty with anyone. i can end it at anytime because it is my life.
Rocky, I hear that you're saying that the benzos keep you going but not sure if you'll like how you feel once off? You say you've tried every med so I won't ask about that. How many Doctors have you seen? Just one PDoc? Have you been to the hospital?I hope you will post back to me. I'm sure there must be some options not thought through yet. Do you have family?
Hope to hear from you~Jade
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Posted by JadeKelly on November 13, 2008, at 7:54:46
In reply to Re: xanax 12 mg. will i have a life? i am 40 » Rocky-Exentric, posted by JadeKelly on November 12, 2008, at 11:25:06
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> > you people don't know how many meds I tried to treat my depression. lithium is no exception. now, getting rid off all meds because none offers relief i am with benzos. of course huuuuge dose. a dose equivalent 12mg of xanax. none in this board should have taken such an amount. but for me to function this much is required. two weeks so far on the combo. 6mg of xanax and same amount of ativan.
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> > it is life. i can throw it away at any time, but as long as this work and my doc cooperates i will carry on. if this stops working, then i know what to do because i haven't signed any treaty with anyone. i can end it at anytime because it is my life.
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> Rocky, I hear that you're saying that the benzos keep you going but not sure if you'll like how you feel once off? You say you've tried every med so I won't ask about that. How many Doctors have you seen? Just one PDoc? Have you been to the hospital?
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> Hope to hear from you~Jade
Hi Rocky, didn't hear back from you so thought I'd check in with you today. From what I hear, there are many new promising drugs in the works. I'll try to see whats coming and let you know. Maybe have a look at SLS "miracle" drug above your thread. He did not find remission for 25 years I think he said. Maybe take a look at his combo, he takes 4 meds and finally is in remission. Smart guy, maybe talk to PDoc about a mix similar to that? Let us know how you are.~Jade
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Posted by Racer on November 15, 2008, at 21:52:08
In reply to xanax 12 mg. will i have a life? i am 40, posted by Rocky-Exentric on November 11, 2008, at 3:30:21
I guess I have a couple of questions about medication trials, and I hope you'll forgive me -- I know, from my own experience, how upsetting it can be when someone doesn't seem to believe that you've really tried everything, and I'm not suggesting that at all. I just hate hearing the pain in your posts, and want to try to offer hope. (I'm severely treatment resistant, and respond best to a drug not known as an AD. It took years to find that out, and I was at the point my doctor was unsure whether to let me leave his office the day he prescribed it. And two days later, I was happy as a clam at high tide -- something I hadn't experienced in YEARS.) (And let me tell you, the first thing I saw was the enormous mountain in front of me of everything I will need to do to try to get my life back. And intimidating as that was, it didn't seem overwhelming to me. Remission is a revelation to me.)
So, a couple of questions, if you feel up to answering them.
The first question is simple: how many psychopharmacologists have you seen for this? Sometimes a new set of eyes makes a difference; sometimes a doctor gets into a particular comfort zone and won't stretch beyond it; and sometimes the nicest doctors aren't the best doctors. If you haven't worked with many, it might be worth getting a second or third, or tenth, opinion. And if you have already done that, forgive me for asking.
Second, have you been checked stem to stern physically? Recently? I worked with horses for years, and when a behavior problem came up, the first thing we'd do was get a thorough vet check. I figure that's the least we can do for ourselves, right? Also, if it hasn't been recent, running through it again is worth it Something which was in its earliest stages when you tried before might now be findable, in case this isn't depression.
Have you tried many non-ADs? Provigil is good for some people, Deplin or Metan X for others, and I'm sure there are those out there who respond best to other non-ADs. (In fact, if it's physical, something like antibiotics or prednisone might help. Who knows?)
Speaking of steroids, I don't know why this is coming into my head, but my little monkey brain keeps saying "dexamethasone suppression test..." I have no idea what the relevance is right now, but I think there actually is some major significance -- I'm just too tired to think of it...
How long has it been this bad? I'm very sorry it is, and I wish you relief.
Best of luck to you.
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