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Posted by manic666 on October 2, 2008, at 5:07:22
it seems to me you guys in america consume large amounts of coffee . in fact it must be the biggest drug you guys are on . you seem to be in paradice at the mere metion of it,coffee an gigs junkies. now dont get wound up, in England we have the tea thing , but we dont poor it down are neck,s like you with coffee.no wonder you need seditives at night. you must have more caffene to arm a steath fighter inside you.i got this info just by looking in old posts it seem,s you would sooner do without meds, that coffee.i bet this will wind you guys up.mannic666
Posted by B2chica on October 2, 2008, at 9:31:02
In reply to coffee, posted by manic666 on October 2, 2008, at 5:07:22
funny, it could be true. people around my office get freaked out if no one makes coffee in the community coffee pot in the morning.
i personally don't like the taste of coffee unless its rich dark black (french roast) or doused in flavored creams.
i mostly would drink it for the caffine boost if i drink it. and the warmth.
but i prefer teas.Love good earth.
but i need to be careful with the caffine levels.but my one friend...ooh you take away her coffee and you take away her lifeline!
b2c.
Posted by Phillipa on October 2, 2008, at 10:53:52
In reply to Re: coffee » manic666, posted by B2chica on October 2, 2008, at 9:31:02
I can't drink coffee panic attacks drink l cup of tea two iced green teas a day. Phillipa
Posted by Geegee on October 2, 2008, at 12:41:01
In reply to coffee, posted by manic666 on October 2, 2008, at 5:07:22
Wowsa, those are quite the inferences about American culture given that anecdotal messages on a self-selected message board hardly comprise a representative sample of Americans.
gg
Posted by manic666 on October 2, 2008, at 13:32:37
In reply to Re: coffee » manic666, posted by Geegee on October 2, 2008, at 12:41:01
come on, i new this would get a response.in england the docs class cigs as a class A drug an wont operate on people if they smoke. mabye not glass A , but just scan the posts, an see how many times it crop,s up.coffee is ssssssspooky.manic666
Posted by jms600 on October 2, 2008, at 16:43:58
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by manic666 on October 2, 2008, at 13:32:37
Coffee can aggravate anxiety disorders - but what about people with depression..? Surely caffeine would have an alerting effect on such sufferers (albeit a mild one, and certainly no substitute for antidepressant medications).
Posted by Geegee on October 2, 2008, at 18:22:14
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by manic666 on October 2, 2008, at 13:32:37
> come on, i new this would get a response.
No worries. I was amused by the process.
gg
Posted by desolationrower on October 2, 2008, at 19:08:35
In reply to Re: coffee » manic666, posted by Geegee on October 2, 2008, at 18:22:14
Good tea and ale availible in england, its a good place. But most restaurants in american have good coffee and bad tea so i only drink tea at home. I'd be even more sluggish and foggy without caffine.
-d/r
Posted by dbc on October 2, 2008, at 19:30:35
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by desolationrower on October 2, 2008, at 19:08:35
Amphetamine works better than caffeine so i gave up the caffeine.
Posted by clipper40 on October 4, 2008, at 16:48:58
In reply to coffee, posted by manic666 on October 2, 2008, at 5:07:22
I would never be able to get out of bed in the morning without cofee. Tea just doesn't cut it for me unfortunately.
Posted by llurpsienoodle on October 4, 2008, at 20:10:00
In reply to Re: coffee » manic666, posted by clipper40 on October 4, 2008, at 16:48:58
my pdoc actually recommended coffee to augment provigil when I was in geodon-related anti-psychotic haze
-Ll
Posted by MoparFan91 on October 7, 2008, at 16:13:46
In reply to coffee, posted by manic666 on October 2, 2008, at 5:07:22
The babysitter I had when I was a child drank coffee in the morning for her "breakfast." The next time that she ate was between late-afternoon to early evening. At this time, she would eat chips and donuts. For most part, that's all she ever ate.
She cleaned houses for a living, though, so she was quite active. Given her job of cleaning houses, she apparently needed the pick-me-up of the caffeine in the coffee each morning.
Occasionally, when she was in between houses, she would go to Bojangles, McDonald's, or Burger King to get lunch if she had enough time. Whenever she went to one of those places, she would get a coke without ice. I think she did this so she could get more caffeine from the drink.
Most of the time, though, she didn't have enough time to get lunch, so she waited until she got home and was done for the day to begin her "meal" for the entire day. In her case, as mentioned above, it was chips and donuts. Sometimes, she ate ice cream as well (she bought a 1/2 gallon carton of it almost everyday).
Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 7, 2008, at 21:05:41
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by MoparFan91 on October 7, 2008, at 16:13:46
Michael Moore did a great shtick on this
I think in Roger and Me back in 89
Americas actually do not take their coffee drinking seriously enough
you have to stand in line behind people ordering "decaf skim mocha locha" fake stuff
we need "just a cup o joe thankyou" lines
Posted by yxibow on October 8, 2008, at 0:39:48
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by elanor roosevelt on October 7, 2008, at 21:05:41
Oh tea itself can have up to 100mg of caffeine per serving itself, if not somewhat less or more, depending on variety and steeping.
Tea doesn't just contain caffeine, it also contains small amounts of the drug theophylline, first extracted from tea leaves and eventually synthesized.
Its an agent used in certain asthmatic disorders but is pretty potent and full of side effects and isn't used for many these days.
Most varieties of tea, fermented Camellia sinensis probably have an average amount of caffeine but Black Tea has the most, with varieties of Green Tea generally having smaller amounts of caffeine.
Posted by manic666 on October 8, 2008, at 12:34:10
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by yxibow on October 8, 2008, at 0:39:48
your probably wright, put you miss the point its the intake im on about ,tea is a herb an a healer wow have you seen what it looks like in india when they drink it, mind you if the water comes from the ganges good luck to em .i mabye drink 3 mugs a day of tea but i put 3 yorshire tea bags just a brand name in the mug , no sugar an a spot of milk, sort of a really dark brown then i get 6 diegestive biscuites put them together an dip them slow so about a half inch at a time gets dunked then eat an repeat, discustin i no but baby is it good. mannic666
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2008, at 18:08:46
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by yxibow on October 8, 2008, at 0:39:48
Jay theophylline is what the two taste and smell centers said would restore my taste and smell didn't take it though as anxiety was very bad at the time. And I remembered how anxious patients in the hospital were that were on it or aminophylline drips. So What do you think of that? Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2008, at 18:10:05
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by manic666 on October 8, 2008, at 12:34:10
Manic used to drink my tea with milk they said it deactivated tanin. Wonder if it's true? Love Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on October 9, 2008, at 0:36:25
In reply to Re: coffee » yxibow, posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2008, at 18:08:46
> Jay theophylline is what the two taste and smell centers said would restore my taste and smell didn't take it though as anxiety was very bad at the time. And I remembered how anxious patients in the hospital were that were on it or aminophylline drips. So What do you think of that? Love Phillipa
One of the people that seems to be behind its use seems to have controversial views and insufficient studies.
Considering your anxiety, theophylline would probably act like an adrenaline shot and raise your anxiety, but I can't say for sure.
And also its a question, if there is any theory behind it, whether it is psychiatric or organically based, from what I can see, but I must say that I can't really place any statement one way or the other.
As for peer reviewed discussions on this I found the following summary :
Nasal disorders can also cause this as a lack of taste is also connected with a lack of smell, there are treatments if that is the cause.
In your case, with a disorder that is basically contributing to hypothyroidism, hormone treatment may increase function, but I don't know if that is true with autoimmune disorders or not.
-- Jay
Posted by manic666 on October 9, 2008, at 4:29:37
In reply to Re: coffee » Phillipa, posted by yxibow on October 9, 2008, at 0:36:25
i dont no much about the med side of tea only i saw a programe on tv , it said the leaf is posion till processed.the reason nature ivolved it that way to keep of leaf eating bugs an things at bay thats cool, tea like your coffee as many tastes an prices.usually thes hit it tastes the more cash like earl grey is a snob thing. ice tea is very popular. but not for me . the brand yorkshire tea is strong . brits put load of sugar in personaly i like it just a spot of milk not cream thats a no no. mannic666
Posted by Phillipa on October 9, 2008, at 19:10:29
In reply to Re: coffee » Phillipa, posted by yxibow on October 9, 2008, at 0:36:25
Jay that's got to be the one in DC bet he's out of pactice now as was very old and antiquated methods. The other opened an allergy center. Never have had nasal problems. I did read on one search that synthroid can Harm taste. My neighbor isn't tasting either due to meds hes taking for arthritic things and a recent knee replacement .Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on October 9, 2008, at 19:13:56
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by manic666 on October 9, 2008, at 4:29:37
Manic I remember when in Europe Tea every afternoon with these cubes of brown sugar. And yes cream!!!! Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on October 10, 2008, at 4:15:19
In reply to Re: coffee, posted by manic666 on October 9, 2008, at 4:29:37
> i dont no much about the med side of tea only i saw a programe on tv , it said the leaf is posion till processed.the reason nature ivolved it that way to keep of leaf eating bugs an things at bay thats cool, tea like your coffee as many tastes an prices.usually thes hit it tastes the more cash like earl grey is a snob thing. ice tea is very popular. but not for me . the brand yorkshire tea is strong . brits put load of sugar in personaly i like it just a spot of milk not cream thats a no no. mannic666
I don't know, I'm still here and I raise Camellia sinensis plants as a hobby. They're very fussy about alkaline water and shade and are hard to keep the leaves fully green like regular Camellia sp.The seeds of the small white flower buds can be made into an oil similar to grapeseed or olive oil.
They flower in the fall unlike regular camellias which flower in the early to mid spring.
I've basically tried what would amount to white tea -- there is a very faint green liquid after a while. I think younger leaves yield better tea, but I'm not an expert.
-- Jay
Posted by cloudydaze on October 11, 2008, at 0:59:56
In reply to Re: coffee or tea » manic666, posted by yxibow on October 10, 2008, at 4:15:19
haha i work at a coffee shop :P
I love espresso.
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