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Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 1, 2008, at 10:34:37
after much long thought i have come to the realization that AD's have not helped me much since lexapro melted down--must be 4 years
what i have is side effectsis it time for me to see that i am hitting my head against the wall?
Posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 10:50:16
In reply to over it, posted by elanor roosevelt on October 1, 2008, at 10:34:37
I wonder do any of them work? Seriously? Love Phillipa
Posted by Geegee on October 1, 2008, at 11:41:54
In reply to Re: over it » elanor roosevelt, posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 10:50:16
> I wonder do any of them work? Seriously? Love Phillipa
I don't understand how you can wonder that when you've read multiple posts here on how AD's ARE helping others. It's not an either/or issue. They DO help many. ALL DON'T help ALL. Some may need something else in place of or in addition to AD's. Like much in life, it's shades of gray, not black or white.
gg
Posted by Geegee on October 1, 2008, at 11:43:49
In reply to over it, posted by elanor roosevelt on October 1, 2008, at 10:34:37
> after much long thought i have come to the realization that AD's have not helped me much since lexapro melted down--must be 4 years
> what i have is side effects
>
> is it time for me to see that i am hitting my head against the wall?I don't know your history, so I don't know how to answer that, but I can hear that you're frustrated, and I'm sorry. Perhaps instead of or in addition to medication, you might try therapy or support groups or writing or some other modality that you haven't yet tried?
Wishing you relief....
gg
Posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 11:58:29
In reply to Re: over it » Phillipa, posted by Geegee on October 1, 2008, at 11:41:54
GeeGee I know they don't help all. Some are situational and a med can't cure an event in life theraphy is better in that case to me. The lucky ones are the ones a med helps. I do know many that just decide depending on the severeness of their illness to try alternative methods. I am one they don't help as extenuating medical things must be corrected first. Now that is just me. I'm sure many do benefit by meds. I know my kids tried them and decided to work through issues and not take meds. That is them and a lot of neighbors also. Love Phillipa. I say go for it if meds help you in all kinds of combinations.
Posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 12:00:10
In reply to over it, posted by elanor roosevelt on October 1, 2008, at 10:34:37
Eleanor do you excercise? I find that is my best stress relief. If you haven't could you try it? Phillipa
Posted by med_empowered on October 1, 2008, at 12:48:29
In reply to over it, posted by elanor roosevelt on October 1, 2008, at 10:34:37
You have a point...the antidepressants often fail to outperform placebo. You're not the only one who isn't getting a reponse.
So do you want to taper the meds, or would that complicate your situation?
Posted by bulldog2 on October 1, 2008, at 15:32:25
In reply to Re: over it » elanor roosevelt, posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 10:50:16
> I wonder do any of them work? Seriously? Love Phillipa
1.meds work for some and not others
2.cbt works for some and not others
3.diet and nutrition work for some and not others
4.hormones work for some and not others
5.alternative medicine works for some and not others
6.for some a combination of the above works and not for others
7.and for some nothing may workLife is not black and white but very complicated at times and answers hard to come by.
In my opinion I would stop posting here and wasting my time here if I believed meds did not work. What would be the point of that?
My time would be better spent in a forum or forums where I believed the answers might be found!
Posted by bulldog2 on October 1, 2008, at 15:39:34
In reply to Re: over it » elanor roosevelt, posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 10:50:16
> I wonder do any of them work? Seriously? Love Phillipa
You must have selective memory. Recently you responded to a post where Football has had a complete remission on his current cocktail. Had one on Nardil stopped because of sides and started lamictal and went into remission again.
How about Scott and the list goes on...
Posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 18:11:57
In reply to do you want to taper?, posted by med_empowered on October 1, 2008, at 12:48:29
Med am tappering the benzos as they no longer work and same with luvox. Love Phillipa
Posted by Marty on October 1, 2008, at 19:24:08
In reply to Re: over it, posted by bulldog2 on October 1, 2008, at 15:32:25
> In my opinion I would stop posting here and wasting my time here if I believed meds did not work. What would be the point of that?
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In my opinion I would stop posting here and wasting my time here if I were to begin b*tch*ng people because of their opinions or lack of perceived consistency into them. What would be the point of that uh?That was totally uncalled for.
Keep your opinion on that kind of BS for you.
Especially when they contain not so subtle passive-aggressive messages like this one.This is a board about medication treating, in part, depression and you're there acting clever about someone depressive who express depressive-like ideas about the meds that don't works for her and many people here ? Who's pointless now ? This place is for self-help and helping people and your so called 'opinion' didn't fit any of those 2 things.
You didn't really thought anyone would actually think your disguised attack was really an opinion, right ?
/\/\arty
PS: Not really asking and wont really follow up this thread, so you may as well not reply me.
Posted by greywolf on October 1, 2008, at 20:21:13
In reply to Re: over it, posted by bulldog2 on October 1, 2008, at 15:32:25
I've posted here over the past few years, and I'll admit that at times I felt ADs were hopeless. Nothing was going to work, and it was all a bad joke. Other times, a new therapy or a new course of meds had me hoping against hope. Some helped, even if only for a little while.
But all through that time, this Board has been important to me because I know people are here, waiting to help no matter what my mood or attitude. It doesn't matter to them whether I think ADs work today or not. They're just happy to lend a hand and keep me going. So I keep coming back, hoping one day to report that big breakthrough that might give others hope when they have little or none themselves.
So feel free to doubt ADs or love them. Or even be completely inconsistent about the whole issue. That's what PB is all about, in my view.
Greywolf
Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on October 1, 2008, at 22:22:23
In reply to Re: over it, posted by bulldog2 on October 1, 2008, at 15:32:25
>In my opinion I would stop posting here and wasting my time here if I believed meds did not work.
>You must have selective memoryPlease don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
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-- 10derHeart, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on October 1, 2008, at 22:22:35
In reply to Re: over it » bulldog2, posted by Marty on October 1, 2008, at 19:24:08
> b*tch*ng people because of their opinions or lack of perceived consistency into them.
> That was totally uncalled for.
> Keep your opinion on that kind of BS for you.
> you're there acting clever
>Who's pointless now ?
>your so called 'opinion'
> You didn't really thought anyone would actually think your disguised attack was really an opinion, right ?Please don't be sarcastic or post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be directed to Psycho-Babble Admin and should of course be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.
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Posted by Racer on October 2, 2008, at 13:33:49
In reply to Re: over it, posted by greywolf on October 1, 2008, at 20:21:13
Posted by Deputy Racer on October 2, 2008, at 13:46:50
In reply to Re: over it, posted by greywolf on October 1, 2008, at 20:21:13
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Posted by 10derHeart on October 2, 2008, at 14:21:01
In reply to That was a beautiful post. Thank you (nm) » greywolf, posted by Racer on October 2, 2008, at 13:33:49
Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 2, 2008, at 23:15:03
In reply to I thought so, too :-) (nm), posted by 10derHeart on October 2, 2008, at 14:21:01
carry on with your arguments and please feel free to use this as a special place to keep all your spats current
Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 3, 2008, at 17:00:33
In reply to do you want to taper?, posted by med_empowered on October 1, 2008, at 12:48:29
thanks for asking
yes, i am tapering the AD's, tapered the straterraa (done)and hope to make some other changes
the ambien and xanax and, for a while, the adderall will stay but for AD effecs I'm going to find out if the amino acid approach works for me
Posted by Phillipa on October 3, 2008, at 19:10:23
In reply to Re: do you want to taper?, posted by elanor roosevelt on October 3, 2008, at 17:00:33
Hope it works for you why are you stopping the ad's may I ask? Phillipa
Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 8, 2008, at 12:15:38
In reply to Re: do you want to taper? » elanor roosevelt, posted by Phillipa on October 3, 2008, at 19:10:23
the AD's haven't worked for me for a long time
i seem to get the side effects without much help with the depression
i'm not anti-meds it's just that keeping up with the ADs would be like hitting my head against the wall
once i'm off the effexor i am going to bring the lamictal up and see what that does
in the meantime i've started research on vitamins and amino acids
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2008, at 18:58:12
In reply to Re: do you want to taper?, posted by elanor roosevelt on October 8, 2008, at 12:15:38
Eleanor the best of luck boy do I relate to that. I did try lamictal no sides except such bad saliva and spitting had to give it up at 50mg. But no sides like ad's if you get them. Keep me and others posted okay? Love Phillipa
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