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Posted by Phillipa on May 19, 2008, at 12:25:47
In reply to Please Please stop this for heaven's sake...!, posted by Pluto on May 19, 2008, at 12:05:14
My Son please dont leave we can help you. So many minds here were great knowledge. Love Mom Phillipa
Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 19, 2008, at 13:12:12
In reply to Re: Pluto » Jeroen, posted by SLS on May 18, 2008, at 19:07:18
> Zyprexa is a lifesaver.
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> By the way, what do YOU mean by "psychosis"? Why did you take Zyprexa in the first place? Psychosis?
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> - ScottI agree with Scott, Zyprexa has saved many lives. Please don't bash a med just because YOU had a bad experience with it.
Wally
Posted by Jeroen on May 19, 2008, at 13:14:24
In reply to Re: Pluto, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 19, 2008, at 13:12:12
i asked Dr Bob to delete my account since no help is truly ever appreciated and can be used against you if some sss lamer kid dont like what youre writing
Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 19, 2008, at 13:17:04
In reply to Pluto, posted by SLS on May 18, 2008, at 18:14:25
> Yes. I have an agenda. I don't want anyone to kill themselves when they are in an altered state of consciousness. Drunk, depressed, or psychotic, these are all altered states within which it is nearly impossible to maintain good judgment. You area capable of good judgment, but not in your current state.
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> I respect your right to autoeuthansia. However, I don't think now is the time. You have too many untried alternative treatments.
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> My agenda is to not help you die nor help you live in pain. I would much rather that you live well.
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> I wish I had guarantees for you. I don't. I want you to take a calculated risk and live to try more treatments. You have not tried nearly enough.
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> First, though, if you do want to live for a day or a week or a month or more, you might as well do it in the absence of intolerable pain. Take Zyprexa. I can ALMOST guarantee that it will take away much of your pain and allow you to make better decisions. I am not saying that the decision to kill yourself has no psychosocial background. Maybe it can be justified at some point in the future, but not today.
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> Choose to live WELL. Work for it. I know you have already worked hard. I'm asking that you make things easier on yourself by taking an anti-suicide drug like Zyprexa, rather than be haunted by an obsession with death. Zyprexa will take away the sense of urgency, anger, anxiety, and pain.
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> Stop the pain. No longer allow your thinking to be influenced by the pain.
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> I know you want out. Things for you suck. However, you are young and angry enough to live well despite your current thought style.
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> I WANT YOU TO BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF ME. I don't mind.
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> Tell me what I don't know about you. Tell me how I have made errors in judgment regarding you.
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> Yell at me. Tell me how I don't understand. Educate me. Make me understand. I want to understand.
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> Zyprexa will dramatically reduce your pain. Try it.
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> - Scott
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> I 100% back everything Scott mentioned above. I plead with you to please give Zyprexa a chance, i've used it in the past and it helped me dramatically. Please try it!Wally
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Posted by Phillipa on May 19, 2008, at 13:20:30
In reply to Re: Pluto » SLS, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 19, 2008, at 13:17:04
Pluto I must go to a doctors appointment. I have not deserted you. No Mother will desert a wonderful Son like you. Love Mom Phillipa ps I too am trying to get well.
Posted by B2chica on May 19, 2008, at 13:21:14
In reply to Please Please stop this for heaven's sake...!, posted by Pluto on May 19, 2008, at 12:05:14
> This is the end. Dont inflate this thread please. Please.. Help those who are in need. I will not visit this board again.
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> Yes. I will not visit this board again. Stop spamming the board for me.
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i am helping those i care about. and those i choose to. you are one.
i will "spam" what board i choose for whom i choose.
why would you ever think you are not worth it.
b2c
Posted by okydoky on May 19, 2008, at 13:41:38
In reply to Please Please stop this for heaven's sake...!, posted by Pluto on May 19, 2008, at 12:05:14
Selections from Plutos Post:
I am not the only one in this world in pain. All of you people suffer. Thats why you are the members of this boardPlease focus on others, focus on others sufferings and if you can help, please do.
The assumption is not necessarily correct, that responding to Pluto is for his benefit alone. If that were the case there really would be no reason for the board as it is but to be set up in another way where by each poster to posts his/her problem or questions and have every response be only via babblemail or direct email.The first sentence on Psycho-Babble Welcome is: This is a message board for mutual support and education,
Pluto, you have not hijacked anything. If you want people only to speak directly to you I hope they do, but the selfless thing to do, which appears to be what you are asking for, would be to continue the dialogue on the board.
I guess I put myself out there now.
oky
Posted by okydoky on May 19, 2008, at 13:54:53
In reply to Re: Pluto, posted by Jeroen on May 19, 2008, at 13:14:24
> i asked Dr Bob to delete my account since no help is truly ever appreciated and can be used against you if some sss lamer kid dont like what youre writing"
I'm sorry to hear you feel that way. Seems like you might have appreciated it in the past. Why did you feel you had to have your account deleted? Seems so extreme. Just stop posting. You seem angry and I wonder if it really has anything to do with this site?
Posted by Jeroen on May 19, 2008, at 14:04:15
In reply to Re: Pluto » Jeroen, posted by okydoky on May 19, 2008, at 13:54:53
angry of my problems, i dont blame anyone just this world itself that is mad by itself
Posted by B2chica on May 19, 2008, at 14:11:15
In reply to Re: Pluto Are You There?????? » Pluto, posted by Sigismund on May 18, 2008, at 16:00:52
> I quite like this.......
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> Fade far away, dissolve, and quite forget
> What thou among the leaves hast never known,
> The weariness, the fever, and the fret
> Here, where men sit and hear each other groan;
> Where palsy shakes a few, sad, last grey hairs,
> Where youth grows pale, and spectre-thin, and dies;
> Where but to think is to be full of sorrow
> And leaden-eyed despairs;
> Where beauty cannot keep her lustrous eyes,
> Or new Love pine at them beyond to-morrow.
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please tell me where you found this...who is this. it is incredible.
man i wish i could write like this. someday soon maybe.
b2c
Posted by Sigismund on May 19, 2008, at 15:22:12
In reply to SIGISMUND Are You There??????, posted by B2chica on May 19, 2008, at 14:11:15
Pluto mentioned 'Thou wast not born for death, immortal bird', and that's from Keats's 'Ode to a Nightingale', and the stanza I quoted is the third.
What I meant about English was that they have stopped teaching that sort of English here, though maybe they still they teach it where Pluto comes from.
Posted by B2chica on May 20, 2008, at 9:35:50
In reply to Re: SIGISMUND Are You There?????? » B2chica, posted by Sigismund on May 19, 2008, at 15:22:12
i'm sorry he didn't understand what you meant about English, i knew what you meant since you were quoting poetry.
what i like is that each word impacted me, each word is meaningful...thats the kind of poetry i love.
i've started getting serious about my writing these last few months. and even going to try to get some of my stuff published. i'm a newbie and have much to work on...but i just don't have time for my art (i work in oils) and with my little one right now...i miss it so much and poetry has seemed to fill a void and infact even filled it and expanded it. i'm able to express in poetry somethings that i can't in my art. which i like.i'm in touch with a poet at a university here, he's been very helpful to me and has encouraged me (well pushed me) to take a class this fall so i'm officially enrolled and start in august. and am quite excited. i only wish he were the teacher, but i had to take the night class which he doesn't teach.
sorry went on and hijacked thread but wanted to share with you.
thanks for the Keats
since i'm new to poetry, i want to hear others and learn of poets.
so anytime you think of some you like feel free to babblemail me some. i'd love it.thank you
b2c.
Posted by Pluto on May 20, 2008, at 10:05:00
In reply to Re: SIGISMUND ..thank you » Sigismund, posted by B2chica on May 20, 2008, at 9:35:50
Dear Friends,
I went to pharmacist without anyyyyy hope at all. Just asked him how to gain the pleasure I lost in daily activities. He suggested go to doc and get an antidepressant prescription. NO dear. I won't go to docs. Can you give me something that will prompt me to live at least a little longer?
He would give me a full pack only, not a few to experiment. Well, it was a small red packet. Written trivastal retard 50 and I had to strain read it. piribedil.
whether to take or not, I went back home. Pharmacist cautioned to take after food and only one not more than it for the first time. Drool.. I took two soon after food. Oh...good guy also had asked me whether I have a benzo in addition to take because this may cause agitation. I didn't take anything, but went to bed soon.
Today...waking up .... my goodnesss..... what a change...? what happened to me? Where that obsession to death disappeared? Geee... I sang loud that annoyed next door guys. Who cares...? I am filled. Sun is shining brighter than ever. For the first time in many months I turned on my stereo. See how sweet is Celine Dion..! I am alive... I sang with her.
Guys... I can't describe this feeling... let me stop and assure you.. some meds are really from heaven.
Phillippa, SLS, B2chia, sorry I can't type all of your names, so please don't get it I ignored you. Thanks for the wonderful support. I am going to the pharmacist again to know whether I can increase the dose... I want to be more happier. And no more Docs. Damn docs. That pharmacist knew what I need and that is without an appointment without paying single penny for consultation. I paid the price of medication. I need more. I will be back... soon..
"Tomorrow is always another day"
Let me sing in joy. Euphoric...? NO. I am normal... lalalalalalalala a
Cheers
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 20, 2008, at 10:30:13
In reply to Re: One more question if you can help » Pluto, posted by bleauberry on May 16, 2008, at 20:22:02
> I in no way do I support it. [xxx]
I'm glad you were clear that you didn't support it. But please also be careful not to post anything that could still make someone more likely to harm themselves. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by B2chica on May 20, 2008, at 11:23:34
In reply to Ooh.. TRIVASTAL where art thou come from...!, posted by Pluto on May 20, 2008, at 10:05:00
man, what a great pharmacist! i can't say i've heard that happening before.
oh pluto. i'm so happy to hear you sound in good spirits. just stay healthy please. take walks, eat good. and don't take life too seriously. enjoy books, enjoy outdoors. find something that makes you smile and do it as often as possible.
and give that pharmacist a big thank you.b2c.
Posted by SLS on May 20, 2008, at 11:32:30
In reply to Ooh.. TRIVASTAL where art thou come from...!, posted by Pluto on May 20, 2008, at 10:05:00
I want to be clear about this.
You have just witnessed a change in your brain function that has brought you out of the depths of despair to having feelings of joy. There is little pain. You now experience life as the way you should have for years.
Please write down all of the ways that you feel improved. Do this immediately so that you can capture the moment should you need to reflect on it in the future.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 18:50:30
In reply to Ooh.. TRIVASTAL where art thou come from...!, posted by Pluto on May 20, 2008, at 10:05:00
Pluto so happy for you!!!!! Love Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on May 21, 2008, at 0:30:14
In reply to Re: One more question if you can help - I'll try. » SLS, posted by Pluto on May 16, 2008, at 18:59:29
Hey Pluto,
Sorry you want to die. I used to obsess about suicide all the time, but I got over that somehow. Nowadays I love life and want to live to be 120 years old.
I have fun nearly everyday. Even what some people might consider boring is fun for me. It just takes seeing the world in a different way.
There is hope for you Pluto. I used to be like you, researching ways to die. I wanted to hang myself because that seemed like a sure fire way to die, but what I ended up doing was overdosing several times, not really to die, but just because I felt bad.
I'm all over that now. Don't lose hope. You can be happy like me.
Maybe you just need a specific combination of meds, therapy and fun.
Have you tried taking a fun trip somewhere?
Posted by Deneb on May 21, 2008, at 0:55:25
In reply to Re: One more question if you can help - I'll try. » Pluto, posted by Deneb on May 21, 2008, at 0:30:14
I just read the whole thread.
I'm in disbelief that you can switch to happy so dramatically.
If you really want to die, there is nothing we can do for you.
I hope you'll choose to live. There is much fun to be had in life.
All the best.
Posted by blueboy on May 21, 2008, at 7:39:56
In reply to Very Much into Suicide.. If anyone can help, posted by Pluto on May 16, 2008, at 10:07:50
You sound like you think you don't have any symptoms, but you do. You have a serious (and probably treatable) mental illness.
The only thing I could suggest is to beg, borrow, or steal enough money to go to a very reputable mental hospital for diagnosis and treatment. I'd sell my house, my car, and my dog before I'd kill myself. (And yes, I've been tempted.)
Posted by okydoky on May 21, 2008, at 10:32:48
In reply to Re: Sorry, I don't believe you, posted by Deneb on May 21, 2008, at 0:55:25
> I just read the whole thread.
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> I'm in disbelief that you can switch to happy so dramatically.
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> If you really want to die, there is nothing we can do for you.
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> I hope you'll choose to live. There is much fun to be had in life.
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> All the best.
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>Do you have any mental health experience besides your own? Have some empathy for someone else's experience. Hopefully no one here will post something similar about your "huge" turnaround. We all experience life, depression, happiness.... differently. It is not for us to judge anothers subjective experience.
Psychobabble states as intent:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------"General issues"
"What's going on here?"
"These are message boards for mutual support and education."
I see nothing educational nor supportive in your post.
Please check FAQ: "What exactly do you mean by "civil"?"
I hope this helps.
oky
Posted by Deneb on May 21, 2008, at 14:32:09
In reply to Re: Sorry, I don't believe you » Deneb, posted by okydoky on May 21, 2008, at 10:32:48
I just wanted to cover all the bases. If he was just pretending to be better so that we would stop worrying about him, then I would have shown that I saw throught that and cared.
Now if he was really better, then he is better, and will tell me I'm wrong, no harm done.
I don't see anything uncivil about my post and I WAS trying to help.
Posted by Deneb on May 21, 2008, at 15:16:00
In reply to Re: Sorry, I don't believe u- off topic redirect, posted by Deneb on May 21, 2008, at 15:13:18
Oops, sorry, I accidently pasted the wrong address then accidentally posted twice. Here is the right link.
:-(
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20080428/msgs/830342.html
Posted by Deputy Dinah on May 21, 2008, at 17:24:45
In reply to Re: Sorry, I don't believe you » Deneb, posted by okydoky on May 21, 2008, at 10:32:48
> I see nothing educational nor supportive in your post.
Hi oky. I appreciate your support of Pluto, but please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. If you feel a post is in violation of the civility guidelines, please report the post to the Administrators. It might be best not to reply until you've heard from Administration, or if you do reply to be very careful with the civility guidelines.
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http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
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Posted by Deputy Dinah on May 21, 2008, at 17:25:48
In reply to Re: Sorry, I don't believe you, posted by Deneb on May 21, 2008, at 14:32:09
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