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Posted by Declan on December 30, 2006, at 13:53:13
In reply to Re: Time to Think and Plan, posted by elanor roosevelt on December 30, 2006, at 10:53:46
Posted by Quintal on December 30, 2006, at 16:18:46
In reply to Asperger's Syndrome? » jimmygold70, posted by Quintal on December 30, 2006, at 11:05:04
Does anyone else find their verbal IQ goes up when they're on opiates? Seems unlikely but I just happened to re-read that last post of mine and it seems more than I could muster right now when my 40mg codeine has worn off.
They seem to give me creative energy yet you normally hear of people just lying about and getting stoned.
Q
Posted by Phillipa on December 30, 2006, at 19:34:21
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome? » Quintal, posted by Quintal on December 30, 2006, at 16:18:46
Q all I know is that when I broke my arm last year and the soft splint was digging into my skin so couldn't sleep at night that the l percocet I took made me feel better and I would find myself laughing. Told the doc answer they are addicting. Next!!!!!Love Phillipa
Posted by Declan on December 30, 2006, at 20:03:02
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome? » Quintal, posted by Quintal on December 30, 2006, at 16:18:46
Verbal IQ can go up when you are comfortable enough and can think properly (whatever that means).
When tianeptine actually works on me (2nd or 3rd dose of the day) I can become quite smart, actually managing to get most of it out there.
And it is why I took opiates.If the social cues are hard to read then there is pain (somehow).
I often simply do/did not understand what people were saying, being too busy trying to find the hidden meaning.
Posted by Quintal on December 31, 2006, at 16:10:50
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome? » Quintal, posted by Declan on December 30, 2006, at 20:03:02
I've just found this website that has four tests relevant to the autistic spectrum:
http://glennrowe.net/BaronCohen/MaleFemale.asp
Anyone with enough spare time care to tell us their results?
Q
Posted by Declan on December 31, 2006, at 19:14:22
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome?, posted by Quintal on December 31, 2006, at 16:10:50
Systematising........26 (average)
Empathy..............35 (average)
Autism Spectrum......39 (very high)
Mind in the eyes.....18 (average/lowish)Time to greet the newly arrived guests with some ad libbed convesation.
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 5:04:06
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome? » Quintal, posted by Declan on December 31, 2006, at 19:14:22
Hi D and Q,
Autistic Spectrum 23 (slightly above average 'autisticness'.
Ed
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 5:06:02
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome? » Declan, posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 5:04:06
PS. I would have scored a lot higher when I was younger. Things have definitely improved here.
Ed
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 5:42:11
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome? » Quintal, posted by Declan on December 31, 2006, at 19:14:22
My empathy, 42 (average)
Mind in eyes, 26 (average)
Systemizing, 9 (very low)
Ed
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 5:46:04
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome?, posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 5:42:11
>Systemizing, 9 (very low)
I'm so bad! Seriously I don't know how most people could score so high. I mean, who reads instruction manuals in detail? I'm brain dead, I blame SSRIs. Ugh.
Ed
Posted by Declan on January 1, 2007, at 13:13:48
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome? » ed_uk, posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 5:46:04
In theory I'm fairly obsessional, but in practice too lazy. I'll restack the dishwasher so everything is OK and I really believe there is only one correct way to do everything, but 50 years of hanging(?) around this world has taken the edge off.
My results are complicated by the fact that I am a verbal and not a visual person. I can remember some of who said what, but can't describe the mosquito net I sleep under.
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 13:22:39
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome? » ed_uk, posted by Declan on January 1, 2007, at 13:13:48
Good evening Declan
I'm confused about MSN because you appeared and then disappeared again immediately!
>In theory I'm fairly obsessional, but in practice too lazy
That describes me very well. VERY well.
>My results are complicated by the fact that I am a verbal and not a visual person
I'm not a visual person at all. I can never remember what things look like.
Ed
Posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 14:34:38
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome? » Quintal, posted by Declan on December 31, 2006, at 19:14:22
OK time to add my own results to the debate......
Autism Spectrum Quotient: 38 (Very high)
Empathy Quotient: 14 (Very low and very unexpected)
Systemising Quotient: 48 (Very high)All looking good for the AS theory until......
Mind in the eyes: 32 (*Very* high, way above average even for 'normal' people. Ooh, ooh, ooh)
So..... am I just a nefarious sociopath as jimmygold70 suggests or is something else at work here?
I had a look around one of the Asperger's support sites and curiously most of them were scoring in the mid twenties for the 'Mind in the eyes' tests with a few who had even been diagnosed with Asperger's as children scoring in the thirties. A common theme was that people said they were working out the expressions by a process of elimination - otherwise it seems odd that people on the autistic spectrum are scoring so highly on facial recognition tests.
Curious.
Q
Posted by Declan on January 1, 2007, at 14:51:07
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............. » Declan, posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 14:34:38
Nefarious sociopath?
Sounds promising, but ADHD might be more productive.
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 15:10:48
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............. » Quintal, posted by Declan on January 1, 2007, at 14:51:07
>Sounds promising, but ADHD might be more productive.
At least then you can get a script for something? In theory.
Ed
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 15:13:35
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............. » Declan, posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 14:34:38
>Mind in the eyes: 32 (*Very* high, way above average even for 'normal' people. Ooh, ooh, ooh)
I found that test so hard. Most of the time I was just having to guess. I'm surprised that I even scored average.
Ed
Posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 15:26:32
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............. » Quintal, posted by Declan on January 1, 2007, at 14:51:07
>Sounds promising, but ADHD might be more productive.
No, not likely - I can concentrate for huge lengths of time, my spelling is good, I'm not hyperactive etc., etc, etc. Besides, you can't have ADHD in the UK in any case - it's not a productive diagnosis here ;-)
Amphetamines don't help me and I had a horrible reaction NARIs, so Strattera is not an option I'd be willing to take.
I'm confused where the boundaries between ADHD and other PDDs lie. Is there any real difference between them?
Q
Posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 15:31:52
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............., posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 15:10:48
>At least then you can get a script for something? In theory.
Do you really think any GP would be willing to rx amphetamines to an adult with a history of substance misuse in the UK, no matter what the diagnosis? They are the same doctors who cut off my supply of clonazepam at 2mg. I don't expect any compassionate prescribing.
Q
Posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 15:38:13
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............. » Quintal, posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 15:13:35
>I found that test so hard. Most of the time I was just having to guess. I'm surprised that I even scored average.
I just looked through the available options, looked carefully at the eyes and chose what I thought was most likely. I would be more interested in the results of open ended questions.
I am a highly visual person though - I have a photographic memory. More like a videographic memory in fact. I wonder if that makes a difference and does it mean anything re: the autistic spectrum. Are they usually less visual than most?
Q
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 16:01:36
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............. » ed_uk, posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 15:31:52
>Do you really think any GP would be willing to rx amphetamines to an adult with a history of substance misuse in the UK, no matter what the diagnosis?
No :) I was just amused by Declan's remark!
Ed
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 16:04:21
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............. » ed_uk, posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 15:38:13
Hi Q
>I have a photographic memory. More like a videographic memory in fact.
Amazing indeed. I'm the exact opposite.
>Are they usually less visual than most?
I wouldn't have said so. I have heard of autistic people with photographic memories.
Ed
Posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 16:09:02
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............., posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 16:04:21
Another thing just occurred to me. Would someone with untreated ADHD really be able to sit at a computer and post all those detailed post as I have for the last two months? I've never looked very closely at ADHD and it's sub-types but it seems somewhat unlikely when I look at it in that light.
Q
Posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 17:27:43
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............., posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 16:09:02
Hi Q
I'm certain you don't have ADHD Q. I think Declan was just joking :)
Take care
Ed
Posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 18:08:11
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............. » Quintal, posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 17:27:43
>I'm certain you don't have ADHD Q. I think Declan was just joking :)
I know ;-)
I'm curious as to what *is* actually 'wrong' with me though and I'm exploring possibilities. I'm pleased to hear someone else thinks I don't have ADHD as well :-)
How to explain high scores on the 'Mind in the eyes' test then? I'm guessing it has something to do with having a good visual memory? Even so, why is it that I don't always get obvious social cues until long after the event if don't have ADHD? Confusing.
BTW are you actually diagnosed with Asperger's Declan?
Q
Posted by Quintal on January 1, 2007, at 18:21:09
In reply to Re: Asperger's Syndrome test results.............., posted by ed_uk on January 1, 2007, at 16:04:21
>>>I have a photographic memory. More like a videographic memory in fact.
>
>Amazing indeed. I'm the exact opposite.How do you remember then? My dad says he can't visualize and I've always wondered what it's like? Sounds awful - like a 'mind's eye' cataract.
Q
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