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Posted by chconfused on June 10, 2006, at 21:35:21
A doctor recently suggestd I changed from Xanex to Effexor. He reason was "major" liver damage. Has anyone swichted between these tow, and what were there result?
Posted by bassman on June 11, 2006, at 8:23:41
In reply to from xanex to effexor?, posted by chconfused on June 10, 2006, at 21:35:21
I'm confused, too. Do you mean "Xanax"? And do you mean Serzone to Effexor, not Xanax to Effexor? Then it would be an AD to an AD and Serzone does cause liver damage. Xanax has no precautions as far as the liver...actually, when people take overdoses of benzos, there doesn't seem to be liver damage. So either your doc or we are confused. Or all of us are. :>}
Posted by chconfused on June 11, 2006, at 11:52:58
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by bassman on June 11, 2006, at 8:23:41
> I'm confused, too. Do you mean "Xanax"? And do you mean Serzone to Effexor, not Xanax to Effexor? Then it would be an AD to an AD and Serzone does cause liver damage. Xanax has no precautions as far as the liver...actually, when people take overdoses of benzos, there doesn't seem to be liver damage. So either your doc or we are confused. Or all of us are. :>}
sorry I meant xanax. i really don't think he knows what he is talking about. i am on so many diffeerent meds my liver is the last of my worries.
Posted by blueberry on June 11, 2006, at 14:01:06
In reply to from xanex to effexor?, posted by chconfused on June 10, 2006, at 21:35:21
To say xanax has major liver risk is puzzling. Some meds do, but xanax isn't one of them.
Whether the switch is a good idea or not depends on how you are doing and what other meds you take. If depression and anxiety are both problems, adding effexor makes sense. If anxiety alone is a problem, then maybe increasing the dose to the xanax extended release version or switching to another benzo like klonopin or valium makes sense.
The switch would take time. You would have to be stable at your target dose of effexor and then begin a slow taper off xanax over several months. Xanax withdrawals are fierce and dangerous. You can't just stop it. And you don't want to lower it while getting on effexor either, because then you won't know if something goes wrong what is doing what.
Posted by Phillipa on June 11, 2006, at 18:27:43
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by blueberry on June 11, 2006, at 14:01:06
From what I"ve read effexor damages the liver. Google old posts in the achives. Love Phillipa
Posted by chconfused on June 11, 2006, at 23:35:34
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by blueberry on June 11, 2006, at 14:01:06
> To say xanax has major liver risk is puzzling. Some meds do, but xanax isn't one of them.
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> Whether the switch is a good idea or not depends on how you are doing and what other meds you take. If depression and anxiety are both problems, adding effexor makes sense. If anxiety alone is a problem, then maybe increasing the dose to the xanax extended release version or switching to another benzo like klonopin or valium makes sense.
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> The switch would take time. You would have to be stable at your target dose of effexor and then begin a slow taper off xanax over several months. Xanax withdrawals are fierce and dangerous. You can't just stop it. And you don't want to lower it while getting on effexor either, because then you won't know if something goes wrong what is doing what.I am already on Cymbalta, trazadone, xanax, embrel, methotrexate, hydrochlorothiaziade, and soma. I am also a pharmacy tech and asked a pharmcist friend of mine and he confirmed thoughts that anything has the possibility of causing liver damage but no major reports of xanax.
thanks for the input
Posted by chconfused on June 11, 2006, at 23:37:54
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by Phillipa on June 11, 2006, at 18:27:43
> From what I"ve read effexor damages the liver. Google old posts in the achives. Love Phillipa
thnaks I will do it again, some of what I got the first time was peole getting halluciations
Posted by Bonnie_CA on June 12, 2006, at 1:00:34
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by chconfused on June 11, 2006, at 23:35:34
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> I am already on Cymbalta, trazadone, xanax, embrel, methotrexate, hydrochlorothiaziade, and soma. I am also a pharmacy tech and asked a pharmcist friend of mine and he confirmed thoughts that anything has the possibility of causing liver damage but no major reports of xanax.
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> thanks for the inputIt wouldn't make sense to be on both cymbalta and effexor, they do similar things. Hmmm.
Posted by bassman on June 12, 2006, at 7:37:18
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by chconfused on June 11, 2006, at 23:35:34
Methotrexate is profoundly toxic to the liver (depending on the dosage; sometimes it's used for RA at lower levels and isn't as much of a problem), especially in the presence of alcohol or some other drugs. "anything has the possibility of causing liver damage"...is only true in the same sense that "anyone can grow up to be President"-theoretically true, but...
Posted by chconfused on June 12, 2006, at 9:30:31
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by bassman on June 12, 2006, at 7:37:18
> Methotrexate is profoundly toxic to the liver (depending on the dosage; sometimes it's used for RA at lower levels and isn't as much of a problem), especially in the presence of alcohol or some other drugs. "anything has the possibility of causing liver damage"...is only true in the same sense that "anyone can grow up to be President"-theoretically true, but...
that is why i am on it and i get blood work done every 3 months. that is why i couldn't beleive he was concerned about the xanax
Posted by chconfused on June 12, 2006, at 9:36:13
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor? » chconfused, posted by Bonnie_CA on June 12, 2006, at 1:00:34
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> > I am already on Cymbalta, trazadone, xanax, embrel, methotrexate, hydrochlorothiaziade, and soma. I am also a pharmacy tech and asked a pharmcist friend of mine and he confirmed thoughts that anything has the possibility of causing liver damage but no major reports of xanax.
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> > thanks for the input
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> It wouldn't make sense to be on both cymbalta and effexor, they do similar things. Hmmm.He didn't mention anything about taking me off of the cymbalta either. This just proves to me that if you want to know about a drug, don't ask a doctor, ask a pharmacist.
Posted by valene on June 13, 2006, at 21:30:18
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by chconfused on June 12, 2006, at 9:36:13
Wow this really reinforces my disbelief in most doctors - cymbalta AND effexor, and telling you xanax causes major liver damage. What PDR is he reading? Where did he get his license? Scary.
Posted by chconfused on June 15, 2006, at 20:31:45
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by valene on June 13, 2006, at 21:30:18
> Wow this really reinforces my disbelief in most doctors - cymbalta AND effexor, and telling you xanax causes major liver damage. What PDR is he reading? Where did he get his license? Scary.
I think maybe from a cracker jack box. I sure wont be seeing him again.
Posted by elanor roosevelt on June 20, 2006, at 21:23:54
In reply to Re: from xanex to effexor?, posted by chconfused on June 15, 2006, at 20:31:45
> > Wow this really reinforces my disbelief in most doctors - cymbalta AND effexor, and telling you xanax causes major liver damage. What PDR is he reading? Where did he get his license? Scary.
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> I think maybe from a cracker jack box. I sure wont be seeing him again.amen.
why would someone want you off xanax and then on to effexor which triggers anxiety
doctors are afraid of xanax and addiction.
effexor has to be monitored carefully if you are prone to anxieties.
many better selections out there.
doctors don't understand the sublties.
but the doc you have.
you are right.
lose him.
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