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Posted by MARTY on April 5, 2006, at 14:52:31
Hi --I'd like to know if there's a lot of people on the forum who because of a 'crazy med' isn't feeling his dick like it suppose too ? any COMPLETE anesthesia ?
Now.. IS THERE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH AN ANTIDOTE WHO HAS DONE ANYTHING IN THAT REGARD ?
Marty
Posted by crabwalk on April 5, 2006, at 15:56:14
In reply to Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by MARTY on April 5, 2006, at 14:52:31
Hi, I may have replied to you before, if so I don't mean to be redundant. I had complete anesthesia on two months of paxil and then six months of prozac. I switched directly from paxil to prozac, and for about 2-3 weeks on prozac i was normal sexually, then one day all side effects came back. I quit prozac a year ago and I still have more or less complete anesthesia in my genitals and the rest of my body (can feel friction, but it is not at all pleasurable). Also i have no libido, no response to visual stimulation, and very reduced emotional response. Tried lots of things for it: ginkgo, yohimbe, buspar, aromatase inhibitor, acupuncture, nothing worked.
I'm going to try emsam in hopes that it is dopaminergic enough to reverse some, if not all, of this seemingly permanent damage.
Amantadine, cyproheptadine, dostinex, requip, testosterone, yohimbe are other options, but as far as I know the only published report of alleviated genital anesthesia involved ginkgo.
Good luck.
Posted by linkadge on April 5, 2006, at 16:13:55
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by crabwalk on April 5, 2006, at 15:56:14
I have found alpha lipoic acid to be of some use.
Melatonin also helps a bit in this regard. Nothing dramatic but definate progress.
Linkadge
Posted by tizza on April 6, 2006, at 0:11:13
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by linkadge on April 5, 2006, at 16:13:55
I must be lucky, after 2 weeks from stopping any AD I had full sensation and libido back except with effexor, that took over a month and then I was fine again. While I was taking them that was another story.
Did you know that some doctors prescribe SSRI's and other AD's for premature ejaculation. Why don't we just convert your sexual dysfunction into anorgasmia or painful ejaculation, would that be OK with you???
Posted by lemon68 on April 6, 2006, at 0:25:55
In reply to Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by MARTY on April 5, 2006, at 14:52:31
first off, it would be helpful to know what you are on and the dosage... but I am pretty sure I've been where you're at with lexapro ( have taken 10 mg and 5 mg over past few months) and I remember that sensation ( or lack thereof) being pretty weird and unpleasant... almost like your genitals aren't there, or somebody else is getting the feelings you're not.
I augmented with wellbutrin sr, first 200 mg then dropped to 100 mg because of insomnia issues. this seemed to do the trick, but I'm still not sure if this is the mix of meds for me ( also taking adderall xr 20 mg for ADD, klonopin or trazodone to sleep).....
hope that helped a bit
cheers
Posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 3:52:39
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by crabwalk on April 5, 2006, at 15:56:14
Hi crabwalkYeah I remember having already talk with you about this matter. Nice to hear that Wellbutrin help you, even if I am on a MAOI (Nardil 90mg) I'm looking forward to try Wellbutrin upon it. If I don't die I expect to have some relief from my anesthesia.
I hope you will regain, naturally, your sensations. My feeling is that one day you will. BTW, are you aware of any class action for the permanent domages of sexual order caused by AD ? I think it's worth fighting for. The least they could do is pay for the research needed to find the best antidote and then pay for it for everyone who has been damaged.
Gingko.. hmm think I try that. I got like 3 bottles somewhere.. wish I had taken some, maybe I would remember where I've putted the bottles :S
Marty
> Hi, I may have replied to you before, if so I don't mean to be redundant. I had complete anesthesia on two months of paxil and then six months of prozac. I switched directly from paxil to prozac, and for about 2-3 weeks on prozac i was normal sexually, then one day all side effects came back. I quit prozac a year ago and I still have more or less complete anesthesia in my genitals and the rest of my body (can feel friction, but it is not at all pleasurable). Also i have no libido, no response to visual stimulation, and very reduced emotional response. Tried lots of things for it: ginkgo, yohimbe, buspar, aromatase inhibitor, acupuncture, nothing worked.
>
> I'm going to try emsam in hopes that it is dopaminergic enough to reverse some, if not all, of this seemingly permanent damage.
>
> Amantadine, cyproheptadine, dostinex, requip, testosterone, yohimbe are other options, but as far as I know the only published report of alleviated genital anesthesia involved ginkgo.
>
> Good luck.
Posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 3:54:33
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by linkadge on April 5, 2006, at 16:13:55
Wow, how did you find out about alpha lipoic acid and Melatonin being of some use for genital anesthesia ? Never see that in any medical literature.. nice discovery.. taking note of that!
Marty
> I have found alpha lipoic acid to be of some use.
>
> Melatonin also helps a bit in this regard. Nothing dramatic but definate progress.
>
> Linkadge
Posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 4:00:14
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by tizza on April 6, 2006, at 0:11:13
Ahah
The guy who is treated for premature ejaculation with SSRI then get genital anesthesia, the permanent damage form.. do you think he would have prefer the first problem much ? I do think.. after all that my guess is that this guys girlfriend needs some AD too .. even maybe AP :P
"Oh no Doc, I just broke my nail ! Doc: No problems, heres some AD FDA approoved for 'Broken Nails Syndrome' .. "
Marty
> I must be lucky, after 2 weeks from stopping any AD I had full sensation and libido back except with effexor, that took over a month and then I was fine again. While I was taking them that was another story.
> Did you know that some doctors prescribe SSRI's and other AD's for premature ejaculation. Why don't we just convert your sexual dysfunction into anorgasmia or painful ejaculation, would that be OK with you???
Posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 4:06:28
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by lemon68 on April 6, 2006, at 0:25:55
I've tried many SSRI and they all gaves me the full collection of sexual side effects.I'm currently on Nardil 90mg, Risperdal .5mg, Lamictal 350mg, Lyrica 50mg.
I'm about to try Wellbutrin; I hope I'll get some good results like you.
Marty
BTW, if you see that person who's getting the sensations I'm not.. just tell to give me bacl my sensations OR I'll cut my dick into pieces for him to enjoy :)
> first off, it would be helpful to know what you are on and the dosage... but I am pretty sure I've been where you're at with lexapro ( have taken 10 mg and 5 mg over past few months) and I remember that sensation ( or lack thereof) being pretty weird and unpleasant... almost like your genitals aren't there, or somebody else is getting the feelings you're not.
>
> I augmented with wellbutrin sr, first 200 mg then dropped to 100 mg because of insomnia issues. this seemed to do the trick, but I'm still not sure if this is the mix of meds for me ( also taking adderall xr 20 mg for ADD, klonopin or trazodone to sleep).....
>
> hope that helped a bit
>
> cheers
Posted by tizza on April 6, 2006, at 4:33:13
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) » tizza, posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 4:00:14
> Ahah
>
> The guy who is treated for premature ejaculation with SSRI then get genital anesthesia, the permanent damage form.. do you think he would have prefer the first problem much ? I do think.. after all that my guess is that this guys girlfriend needs some AD too .. even maybe AP :P
>
> "Oh no Doc, I just broke my nail ! Doc: No problems, heres some AD FDA approoved for 'Broken Nails Syndrome' .. "
>
> Marty
>
>
> > I must be lucky, after 2 weeks from stopping any AD I had full sensation and libido back except with effexor, that took over a month and then I was fine again. While I was taking them that was another story.
> > Did you know that some doctors prescribe SSRI's and other AD's for premature ejaculation. Why don't we just convert your sexual dysfunction into anorgasmia or painful ejaculation, would that be OK with you???
>
>Just for the record I wasn't prescribe AD's for this problem ;P Paul
Posted by crabwalk on April 6, 2006, at 8:58:06
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) » crabwalk, posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 3:52:39
>BTW, are you aware of any class action for the permanent domages of sexual order caused by AD ? I think it's worth fighting for. The least they could do is pay for the research needed to find the best antidote and then pay for it for everyone who has been damaged.
Of course they should, but the losses I--and people in my situation--have incurred are way beyond any monetary value. I lost a beautiful girl I am in love with because I cannot feel passion, and she fell out of love with me. Many relationships have been destroyed in this way. I don't know how you could quantify that.
Even so, we'd like to get a lawsuit to at least bring some attention and satisfaction, but lawyers seem reluctant so far. I think the caveat is that pharmaceuticals can always claim sexual dysfunction is just a symptom of depression, and that we are all just primarily depressed. It's a huge catch 22.
Posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 15:29:20
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) Marty, posted by crabwalk on April 6, 2006, at 8:58:06
I'm sorry you loose the love of a woman because of this problem; very hard to hear.Marty
BTW: They can argue that sexual dysfonction is part of depression but they cannot say so about genital anesthesia! .. One of my doc didn't believe me that I wasn't feeling at all. After 3 meeting with him I was so discourage and frustrated that I drop my pants and hit my dick repeatidly as hard as I could .. LOL :P (sad but true) maybe we could do the same in court ;)Marty
> >BTW, are you aware of any class action for the permanent domages of sexual order caused by AD ? I think it's worth fighting for. The least they could do is pay for the research needed to find the best antidote and then pay for it for everyone who has been damaged.
>
> Of course they should, but the losses I--and people in my situation--have incurred are way beyond any monetary value. I lost a beautiful girl I am in love with because I cannot feel passion, and she fell out of love with me. Many relationships have been destroyed in this way. I don't know how you could quantify that.
>
> Even so, we'd like to get a lawsuit to at least bring some attention and satisfaction, but lawyers seem reluctant so far. I think the caveat is that pharmaceuticals can always claim sexual dysfunction is just a symptom of depression, and that we are all just primarily depressed. It's a huge catch 22.
>
Posted by linkadge on April 6, 2006, at 15:50:07
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) » linkadge, posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 3:54:33
I noticed that after a week of both, I had a little more desire and ability.
Linkadge
Posted by john berk on April 6, 2006, at 21:14:07
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) Marty » crabwalk, posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 15:29:20
vitamins "E" and "C" are synergistic with alpha lipoic acid, as is fish oil, could be a plan.
L- tyrosine always makes me horny, dopamine effect...john
Posted by jerrympls on April 7, 2006, at 4:01:01
In reply to Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by MARTY on April 5, 2006, at 14:52:31
I've lost all sensation, desire, etc. I don't get "morning wood" and visual stimulation doesn't work either. No sex drive and I've pretty much forgotten that I have a penis.
Psychopharmacology - isn't it great?!
Posted by Declan on April 7, 2006, at 15:15:52
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) Marty » crabwalk, posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 15:29:20
By genital anaesthesia. We're so used to metaphors and stuff.
Declan
Posted by fires on April 7, 2006, at 22:39:36
In reply to Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by MARTY on April 5, 2006, at 14:52:31
>
> Hi --
>
> I'd like to know if there's a lot of people on the forum who because of a 'crazy med' isn't feeling his dick like it suppose too ? any COMPLETE anesthesia ?
>
> Now.. IS THERE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH AN ANTIDOTE WHO HAS DONE ANYTHING IN THAT REGARD ?> Marty
>
>I suggest that you get checked for vit. B 12 deficency. It caused me severe lack of sensation.
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20030301/979.html
If you take anti-GERD meds (aciphex, protonix, prilosec, etc..) you MUST get checked, in my opinion.
Posted by MARTY on April 8, 2006, at 2:37:13
In reply to So that's what you mean » MARTY, posted by Declan on April 7, 2006, at 15:15:52
Sorry, I should have miss an episode (post?). I dont understand what you mean by this post.Marty
> By genital anaesthesia. We're so used to metaphors and stuff.
> Declan
Posted by Declan on April 8, 2006, at 18:04:56
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) Marty » crabwalk, posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 15:29:20
I dunno how to highlight. I was referring to you saying that you dropped your pants and hit your dick repeatedly as hard as you could. That kind of anaesthesia. I've never had it myself, never having taken SSRIs, although a lot of drugs affect sex negatively.
Declan
Posted by MARTY on April 8, 2006, at 22:48:49
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) Marty, posted by Declan on April 8, 2006, at 18:04:56
Ahh ok, sorry for some reason I was lost. Sometimes I dont get the sens of some simple sentences in english (I speak french)Marty
> I dunno how to highlight. I was referring to you saying that you dropped your pants and hit your dick repeatedly as hard as you could. That kind of anaesthesia. I've never had it myself, never having taken SSRIs, although a lot of drugs affect sex negatively.
> Declan
Posted by Lifestyles on July 13, 2011, at 17:42:52
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) Marty » Declan, posted by MARTY on April 8, 2006, at 22:48:49
I have a similar problem Marty. I am 21 years old and after 15 months of paxil (40-60mg). I have little interest in sex and I have a numbness that I get on my testicles. What have you done to help this? Has it gone away completely or do you still have it? I wish I could sue this company but I don't know how to prove that I have this problem. Doctors can't seem to find anything wrong.
Posted by joe schmoe on July 14, 2011, at 13:31:13
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) Marty, posted by Lifestyles on July 13, 2011, at 17:42:52
In terms of supplements, I have had a lot of success using maca and especially tongkat ali in a strong form (1:200 Pasak Bumi extract from Indonesia). The tiny doses you see in health food store versions are not sufficient. I'm sure we aren't allowed to post commercial links here, but if you look around you should be able to find this for about $60 for 100 300mg capsules at this strength. Fish oil (pharmaceutical grade) is also useful.
I am now almost done with my second week of the new ssri Viibryd and, as promised, it does not seem to have any of the sexual side effects of the older ssris (I was on Celexa for a long time and found it numbing, which is why I started using the herbal supplements I mention above). In fact I am having difficulty concentrating at times due to sexual thoughts and sensations now! Have also gotten morning wood for the first time in ages. So if you are still on an ssri that is causing numbness you might want to try Viibryd instead.
Posted by Lamdage on July 15, 2011, at 18:28:17
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia, posted by joe schmoe on July 14, 2011, at 13:31:13
L-Histidine helps!
Posted by desolationrower on July 15, 2011, at 20:45:58
In reply to Re: Genital Anesthesia (numb dick) Marty, posted by Lifestyles on July 13, 2011, at 17:42:52
It should go away, but you should stop taking it, if that works for your mental health.
bupropion or yohimbine would be the thing i would try first to get feeling back
on ssris i only got delayed orgasm, but on tranylcypromine i got anaethisia. it went away after a month of taking it, i would not worry that it is irreversable (and the sort of person who needs ssris might worry too much about that :) )
-d/r
Posted by Lifestyles on July 15, 2011, at 21:59:56
In reply to Genital Anesthesia (numb dick), posted by MARTY on April 5, 2006, at 14:52:31
I have been off of it for 4 1/2 months and the feeling has not come back. I have thought about taking bupropion cause I get worried and depressed about it, but I also want to wait and see if things go back to normal without drugs. I am working on the depression naturally.
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