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Posted by MARTY on March 28, 2006, at 23:12:04
Have you tried some of the proposed antitode for AD sexual side effects ?We often hear of Cyproheptadine, Wellbutrin (Bupropion), Amantadine, Gingko Biloba, Yohimbine, Dostinex, Mirtazepine, Buspar, nefazodone, granisetron, pramipexole and sildenafil.
Tried one that works ? that didn't ? heard some things about some of them or know another not on this list ?
and plz tell us what you think it's good for ...
* Anorgasmia
* Decrease Libido
* Retarded Ejaculation
* Penile Anesthesia
Marty
Posted by crabwalk on March 29, 2006, at 11:01:10
In reply to Sexual Side Effects - Antidotes that works ?, posted by MARTY on March 28, 2006, at 23:12:04
Not to scare you, but I had very severe sexual side effects on ssris. I quit them over a year ago, and they have not cleared up one bit, including the anesthesia part. I've even had a small amount of testicular shrinkage. This is happening to more and more people, although it is still rare. If you want to be safe I would consider switching AD's to something without sexual side effects if you can, because as far as is known now it could happen to anybody. Take it from me, ssris have pretty much ruined my life by taking away all sexual feelings and much of the associated emotion. You don't want to go through the devastation I and many are others have suffered and still suffer indefinitely.
Posted by utopizen on March 29, 2006, at 17:55:48
In reply to Re: Sexual Side Effects - Antidotes that works ?, posted by crabwalk on March 29, 2006, at 11:01:10
Um, no disrespect to prior poster-- but just ignore that for your purposes.
Okay, docs advise Ginko Biloba (over the counter) or Viagra if that doesn't work. Another common option is to replace or add-on Wellbutrin. And that sums it all up.
Posted by MARTY on March 29, 2006, at 20:01:43
In reply to Re: Sexual Side Effects - Antidotes that works ?, posted by crabwalk on March 29, 2006, at 11:01:10
Hi Crabwalk --I'm sorry to hear that you are one of those with 'permanent' sexual side effect from SSRI. I had myself difficulties for more than a year after having take paxil for 4 years. It seems that in my case taking Wellbutrin about 6 months (after 1 years of problems after stoping paxil) help to regain my normality, including getting rid of the genital anesthesia.
Do you take something to help with your problems ?
Marty
> Not to scare you, but I had very severe sexual side effects on ssris. I quit them over a year ago, and they have not cleared up one bit, including the anesthesia part. I've even had a small amount of testicular shrinkage. This is happening to more and more people, although it is still rare. If you want to be safe I would consider switching AD's to something without sexual side effects if you can, because as far as is known now it could happen to anybody. Take it from me, ssris have pretty much ruined my life by taking away all sexual feelings and much of the associated emotion. You don't want to go through the devastation I and many are others have suffered and still suffer indefinitely.
Posted by MARTY on March 29, 2006, at 20:05:17
In reply to Re: Sexual Side Effects - Antidotes that works ?, posted by utopizen on March 29, 2006, at 17:55:48
> Um, no disrespect to prior poster-- but just ignore that for your purposes.
~ I Understand what you mean by that.
> Okay, docs advise Ginko Biloba (over the counter) or Viagra if that doesn't work. Another common option is to replace or add-on Wellbutrin. And that sums it all up.Did you tried them ? what about Ginko Biloba ?
Marty
Posted by john berk on March 29, 2006, at 20:32:31
In reply to Re: Sexual Side Effects - Antidotes that works ? » utopizen, posted by MARTY on March 29, 2006, at 20:05:17
Hi Marty,
if you can tolerate some initial anxiety, Yohimbe can have an excellent effect on all phases of sexual response, it has worked for me quite often, even while on 20 mgs. prozac, but i take the Twin Lab Yohimbe Fuel, which has 8 mgs. of pharmuecutical grade "YOHIMBINE", definetly a difference from regular yohimbe products.if taken after 4 p.m., it can also cause insomnia, but i found it to work almost everytime i've tryed, although the last time i had more anxiety than usual. i am now weaning off prozac, hopefully my sexual respose will return to base-line, after i week i feel closer to normal, and my energy level overall is way better...john
Posted by stopSSRI on March 30, 2006, at 0:32:35
In reply to Re: Sexual Side Effects - Antidotes that works ? ?crabwalk, posted by MARTY on March 29, 2006, at 20:01:43
Hi MARTY,
I am also suffering from SSRI withdraw syndrome, I have tried wellbutrin with some positive sign but it only last when taken and goes always when not taken. are you still on wellbutrin ? if not, even after stopping wellbutrin after 6 month period, is your libido , sensitivity, etc back to normal and consistent?
>
> Hi Crabwalk --
>
> I'm sorry to hear that you are one of those with 'permanent' sexual side effect from SSRI. I had myself difficulties for more than a year after having take paxil for 4 years. It seems that in my case taking Wellbutrin about 6 months (after 1 years of problems after stoping paxil) help to regain my normality, including getting rid of the genital anesthesia.
>
> Do you take something to help with your problems ?
>
> Marty
>
> > Not to scare you, but I had very severe sexual side effects on ssris. I quit them over a year ago, and they have not cleared up one bit, including the anesthesia part. I've even had a small amount of testicular shrinkage. This is happening to more and more people, although it is still rare. If you want to be safe I would consider switching AD's to something without sexual side effects if you can, because as far as is known now it could happen to anybody. Take it from me, ssris have pretty much ruined my life by taking away all sexual feelings and much of the associated emotion. You don't want to go through the devastation I and many are others have suffered and still suffer indefinitely.
>
>
Posted by Tony P on March 30, 2006, at 2:37:14
In reply to Sexual Side Effects - Antidotes that works ?, posted by MARTY on March 28, 2006, at 23:12:04
> Have you tried some of the proposed antitode for AD sexual side effects ?
>
> We often hear of Cyproheptadine, Wellbutrin (Bupropion), Amantadine, Gingko Biloba, Yohimbine, Dostinex, Mirtazepine, Buspar, nefazodone, granisetron, pramipexole and sildenafil.
>
> Tried one that works ? that didn't ? heard some things about some of them or know another not on this list ?
>
> and plz tell us what you think it's good for ...
> * Anorgasmia
> * Decrease Libido
> * Retarded Ejaculation
> * Penile Anesthesia
>
>
> MartyYohimbine kinda worked - increased libido, increased stamina, but it actually retarded ejaculation further, plus it made me so anxious I had to cancel my date ;-(
Wellbutrin, Serzone/Nefazadone & Buspar are ADs mostly free from sexual dysfunction as a S/E themselves, but (with the possible exception of Wellbutrin) I don't think they do much to counteract the effects of the SSRI/SNRIs.
An herb, Diviner's Sage (Salvia divinorum), has a powerful effect on reversing sexual dysfunction in many people, myself included. It also has an antidepressant effect for some people. It reverses most of the problems listed above, plus helping E.D. Unfortunately, it is a powerful psychedelic in doses not much greater than those effective for sexual dysfunction, and as such may be regarded as questionable. It is legal (so far) in Canada and most of the U.S., but is suffering from guilt by association. However, the drug company that manages to isolate or synthesize an analog that doesn't have the "undesirable" side-effects or legal complications will probably eclipse the Viagra/Cialis success story overnight!
Any further discussion of it should probably go to Psychobabble Alternative or private correspondence. Feel free to email me on this topic at [email protected]
Tony
Posted by MARTY on March 30, 2006, at 7:39:11
In reply to Re: Sexual Side Effects Question for MARTY, posted by stopSSRI on March 30, 2006, at 0:32:35
Hi StopSSRI,
I cannot say since 6 month after taking Wellbutrin I had some anxiety and got back on an SSRI with out Wellbutrin. So my Sexual side effects came back.
Marty
> Hi MARTY,
>
> I am also suffering from SSRI withdraw syndrome, I have tried wellbutrin with some positive sign but it only last when taken and goes always when not taken. are you still on wellbutrin ? if not, even after stopping wellbutrin after 6 month period, is your libido , sensitivity, etc back to normal and consistent?
>
>
> >
> > Hi Crabwalk --
> >
> > I'm sorry to hear that you are one of those with 'permanent' sexual side effect from SSRI. I had myself difficulties for more than a year after having take paxil for 4 years. It seems that in my case taking Wellbutrin about 6 months (after 1 years of problems after stoping paxil) help to regain my normality, including getting rid of the genital anesthesia.
> >
> > Do you take something to help with your problems ?
> >
> > Marty
> >
> > > Not to scare you, but I had very severe sexual side effects on ssris. I quit them over a year ago, and they have not cleared up one bit, including the anesthesia part. I've even had a small amount of testicular shrinkage. This is happening to more and more people, although it is still rare. If you want to be safe I would consider switching AD's to something without sexual side effects if you can, because as far as is known now it could happen to anybody. Take it from me, ssris have pretty much ruined my life by taking away all sexual feelings and much of the associated emotion. You don't want to go through the devastation I and many are others have suffered and still suffer indefinitely.
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by MARTY on March 30, 2006, at 8:56:01
In reply to Re: Sexual Side Effects - Antidotes that works ?, posted by Tony P on March 30, 2006, at 2:37:14
Hi Tony P --I'm very interested in the Diviner's sage, but I'm fearing the psychedelic part. Which dose did you try ? Did you feel anything weird mentally ? Do you know if it would be good for 'Genital Anesthesia' ? (you don't feel your genitals as a AD side effect)
Marty
> > Have you tried some of the proposed antitode for AD sexual side effects ?
> >
> > We often hear of Cyproheptadine, Wellbutrin (Bupropion), Amantadine, Gingko Biloba, Yohimbine, Dostinex, Mirtazepine, Buspar, nefazodone, granisetron, pramipexole and sildenafil.
> >
> > Tried one that works ? that didn't ? heard some things about some of them or know another not on this list ?
> >
> > and plz tell us what you think it's good for ...
> > * Anorgasmia
> > * Decrease Libido
> > * Retarded Ejaculation
> > * Penile Anesthesia
> >
> >
> > Marty
>
> Yohimbine kinda worked - increased libido, increased stamina, but it actually retarded ejaculation further, plus it made me so anxious I had to cancel my date ;-(
>
> Wellbutrin, Serzone/Nefazadone & Buspar are ADs mostly free from sexual dysfunction as a S/E themselves, but (with the possible exception of Wellbutrin) I don't think they do much to counteract the effects of the SSRI/SNRIs.
>
> An herb, Diviner's Sage (Salvia divinorum), has a powerful effect on reversing sexual dysfunction in many people, myself included. It also has an antidepressant effect for some people. It reverses most of the problems listed above, plus helping E.D. Unfortunately, it is a powerful psychedelic in doses not much greater than those effective for sexual dysfunction, and as such may be regarded as questionable. It is legal (so far) in Canada and most of the U.S., but is suffering from guilt by association. However, the drug company that manages to isolate or synthesize an analog that doesn't have the "undesirable" side-effects or legal complications will probably eclipse the Viagra/Cialis success story overnight!
>
> Any further discussion of it should probably go to Psychobabble Alternative or private correspondence. Feel free to email me on this topic at [email protected]
>
> Tony
>
Posted by Tony P on April 1, 2006, at 20:24:27
In reply to Re: Sexual Side Effects - Antidotes Tony P » Tony P, posted by MARTY on March 30, 2006, at 8:56:01
>
> Hi Tony P --
>
> I'm very interested in the Diviner's sage ....
>
> Marty
>
Marty,I've posted a response on psychobabble Alternative, same subject line, which seems the appropriate place for a herbal remedy. I thought I'd posted a redirect earlier here but it must have missed.
Tony
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