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Posted by ace on March 26, 2006, at 20:13:26
Dude, explain to me in depth what is wrong....tell me everything and I will try and help as much as possible....
Peace
Ace
Posted by Phillipa on March 26, 2006, at 20:32:43
In reply to Calling TEPIACA!, posted by ace on March 26, 2006, at 20:13:26
Ace he needs you hopefully he will come on soon. Mexico is a difffernet time zone . probably about 6pm now? Love Jan
Posted by Tepiaca on March 26, 2006, at 21:23:52
In reply to Calling TEPIACA!, posted by ace on March 26, 2006, at 20:13:26
> Dude, explain to me in depth what is wrong....tell me everything and I will try and help as much as possible....
>
> Peace
> AceEy ace Im here brother ! . I have just took a couple of beers and I feel better. I was in a little party in a cousin house. I was more calm around people, I was ok . I could live like this.
Dude , you know my problem I have a very severe
Social Phobia , now Im in a very deep depression in this moment , alot of suicide ideas. I dont sleep well . I have return to Nardil but it hasn´t kicked in yet. Its rare.Ey ace! you have to help me, you know more of MAOIs than any other doctor here in Mexico. What better coudl I have than you. I know you want me to raise Nardil to 90mg. What else to do? I can augment Nardil with what? Maybe lamictal?
Ace dont give me a list of 20 medicines , just tell me what you think I should take. Just one med with Nardil , no more , another med to augmenting it . Help me Dude ! I need help in this moment, more than ever before. I can´t leave my home and I need a job.Tep
Posted by SLS on March 27, 2006, at 7:09:36
In reply to Calling TEPIACA!, posted by ace on March 26, 2006, at 20:13:26
> Dude, explain to me in depth what is wrong....tell me everything and I will try and help as much as possible....
>
> Peace
> Ace
Be careful.
- Scott
Posted by maxime on March 27, 2006, at 10:16:01
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA! » ace, posted by SLS on March 27, 2006, at 7:09:36
Tep, you might want to stop self-medicating with the beer. If you want to see how the Nardil is working it's best not to have other factors to factor in!
I hope you start feeling better very soon.
Maxime
Posted by TylerJ on March 27, 2006, at 14:13:57
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA! » ace, posted by SLS on March 27, 2006, at 7:09:36
> > Dude, explain to me in depth what is wrong....tell me everything and I will try and help as much as possible....
> >
> > Peace
> > Ace
>
>
> Be careful.
>
>
> - Scott
>Scott,
With your psychopharmicological knowledge in addition to what i believe is very good common sense, what do you think Tepi should do?
Tepi, I don't really know Ace, but i do know that Scott knows what he is talking about so please consider his advice also.Tyler
Posted by SLS on March 27, 2006, at 19:00:15
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA! » SLS, posted by TylerJ on March 27, 2006, at 14:13:57
> Scott,
> With your psychopharmicological knowledge in addition to what i believe is very good common sense, what do you think Tepi should do?
> Tepi, I don't really know Ace, but i do know that Scott knows what he is talking about so please consider his advice also.
>
> Tyler
Hi Tyler.Thank you for the flattering compliments.
Regarding psychiatry, I guess I know enough to have an appreciation for how much I don't know.
I wouldn't know what to suggest for Tepiaca. Unfortunately, I haven't had the energy to follow all of the posts. I look forward to hearing what others have to say.
- Scott
Posted by ace on March 27, 2006, at 21:06:21
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA! ?ace, posted by Tepiaca on March 26, 2006, at 21:23:52
> > Dude, explain to me in depth what is wrong....tell me everything and I will try and help as much as possible....
> >
> > Peace
> > Ace
>
> Ey ace Im here brother !Hello Tep!
. I have just took a couple of beers and I feel better. I was in a little party in a cousin house. I was more calm around people, I was ok . I could live like this.
OK. Be very careful about medicating with alcohol. Before long it could become a real problem. I would actually recommend you use no alcohol as a means to assuage your symptoms. Many DO, and end up having miserable lifes. Let's concentrate on the specifics and what we can do psychopharmacologically to alleviate your symptoms. Please have faith Tep.
>
> Dude , you know my problem I have a very severe
> Social Phobia , now Im in a very deep depression in this momentOK. These two problems can be treated with the same drug...i.e Nardil. Before you were mentioning starting and stopping Nardil -- DON'T!
I always say the same thing -- spend 4 weeks at 60mg and then, if no respomse try 90mg. TAKE THE DOSE EVERY TIME AT THE SAME TIME OF DAY. By this time you should acheive enough MAOI inhibition. If you are very anxious, i cannot recommend enough 2-4mg Xanax daily. Xanax is a wonder drug along with klonopin. One article on pubmed stated that it took one patient 10 weeks on Nardil to TOTALLY eliminate his depression -- so please be patient.OK, after a fair trial of Nardil, as outlined above, we can think of switching agents if no substanial therapeutic effects have been acheived.
1. Try Nardil + low dose antipsychotic (this time try- Zyprexa, Abilify etc)
2. Try Nardil with a TCA (but NOT clomipramine under ANY circumstances)
3. Try Nardil with Carbamazepine, Neurontin, Epilem, etc.
4. CHANGE NARDIL
5. Parnate monotherapy
6. Parnate with the above augmenters.
7. I forget -- TRY NARDIL + Amisulpride (50-100mg)
8. Try Clomipramine.
9. Try Nardil + Tramadol (this is "bliss inducer")
The list is endless. I please ask you to have FAITH that we will find the correct drug. It took me YEARS of suffering before i was free.
MAOI's are very good drugs Tep, but you must treat them with utter respect.Also make sure you drink LOTS of water- at least 8-10 glasses a day.
, alot of suicide ideas. I dont sleep well .It's OK to think about suicide. But never give in to the urge. With life Tep, you never know what is around the corner! So stay strong!
I have return to Nardil but it hasn´t kicked in yet. Its rare.
It is going to take time. But please don't go on and then off it. Stay on it amd take your dose everytime at the same time.
>
> Ey ace! you have to help me, you know more of MAOIs than any other doctor here in Mexico. What better coudl I have than you. I know you want me to raise Nardil to 90mg. What else to do? I can augment Nardil with what? Maybe lamictal?
> Ace dont give me a list of 20 medicines , just tell me what you think I should take. Just one med with Nardil , no more , another med to augmenting it . Help me Dude ! I need help in this moment, more than ever before. I can´t leave my home and I need a job.OK. You ask for one drug to augment with Nardil. I apologize for the list up the top.
TAKE 2-4MG XANAX OR KLONOPIN WITH NARDIL.
THAT IS THE BEST BET IN THE SHORT TERM.BENZO'S ARE GREAT DRUGS, AND YOU DO NOT BUILD TOLERANCE TO THEIR ANXIOLYTIC EFFECTS...I'VE BEEN ON 2MG FOR YEARS, AND I HAVE READ THE LITERATURE EXTENSIVELY. IN FACT, MOST PEOPLE WHO USE XANAX RESPONSIBLY, LOWER THEIR DOSE OVER TIME!!!
SO TAKE XANAX (OR KLONOPIN) WITH NARDIL.ANY MORE QSTNS PLEASE ASK.....
PEACE
ACE.
>
> Tep
Posted by TylerJ on March 27, 2006, at 21:18:52
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA! » Tepiaca, posted by ace on March 27, 2006, at 21:06:21
> > > Dude, explain to me in depth what is wrong....tell me everything and I will try and help as much as possible....
> > >
> > > Peace
> > > Ace
> >
> > Ey ace Im here brother !
>
> Hello Tep!
>
> . I have just took a couple of beers and I feel better. I was in a little party in a cousin house. I was more calm around people, I was ok . I could live like this.
>
> OK. Be very careful about medicating with alcohol. Before long it could become a real problem. I would actually recommend you use no alcohol as a means to assuage your symptoms. Many DO, and end up having miserable lifes. Let's concentrate on the specifics and what we can do psychopharmacologically to alleviate your symptoms. Please have faith Tep.
>
>
>
> >
> > Dude , you know my problem I have a very severe
> > Social Phobia , now Im in a very deep depression in this moment
>
> OK. These two problems can be treated with the same drug...i.e Nardil. Before you were mentioning starting and stopping Nardil -- DON'T!
> I always say the same thing -- spend 4 weeks at 60mg and then, if no respomse try 90mg. TAKE THE DOSE EVERY TIME AT THE SAME TIME OF DAY. By this time you should acheive enough MAOI inhibition. If you are very anxious, i cannot recommend enough 2-4mg Xanax daily. Xanax is a wonder drug along with klonopin. One article on pubmed stated that it took one patient 10 weeks on Nardil to TOTALLY eliminate his depression -- so please be patient.
>
> OK, after a fair trial of Nardil, as outlined above, we can think of switching agents if no substanial therapeutic effects have been acheived.
>
> 1. Try Nardil + low dose antipsychotic (this time try- Zyprexa, Abilify etc)
>
> 2. Try Nardil with a TCA (but NOT clomipramine under ANY circumstances)
>
> 3. Try Nardil with Carbamazepine, Neurontin, Epilem, etc.
>
> 4. CHANGE NARDIL
>
> 5. Parnate monotherapy
>
> 6. Parnate with the above augmenters.
>
> 7. I forget -- TRY NARDIL + Amisulpride (50-100mg)
>
> 8. Try Clomipramine.
>
> 9. Try Nardil + Tramadol (this is "bliss inducer")
>
>
>
>
> The list is endless. I please ask you to have FAITH that we will find the correct drug. It took me YEARS of suffering before i was free.
> MAOI's are very good drugs Tep, but you must treat them with utter respect.
>
> Also make sure you drink LOTS of water- at least 8-10 glasses a day.
>
>
>
>
> , alot of suicide ideas. I dont sleep well .
>
> It's OK to think about suicide. But never give in to the urge. With life Tep, you never know what is around the corner! So stay strong!
>
>
>
> I have return to Nardil but it hasn´t kicked in yet. Its rare.
>
> It is going to take time. But please don't go on and then off it. Stay on it amd take your dose everytime at the same time.
>
>
>
> >
> > Ey ace! you have to help me, you know more of MAOIs than any other doctor here in Mexico. What better coudl I have than you. I know you want me to raise Nardil to 90mg. What else to do? I can augment Nardil with what? Maybe lamictal?
> > Ace dont give me a list of 20 medicines , just tell me what you think I should take. Just one med with Nardil , no more , another med to augmenting it . Help me Dude ! I need help in this moment, more than ever before. I can´t leave my home and I need a job.
>
>
>
> OK. You ask for one drug to augment with Nardil. I apologize for the list up the top.
>
> TAKE 2-4MG XANAX OR KLONOPIN WITH NARDIL.
> THAT IS THE BEST BET IN THE SHORT TERM.
>
> BENZO'S ARE GREAT DRUGS, AND YOU DO NOT BUILD TOLERANCE TO THEIR ANXIOLYTIC EFFECTS...I'VE BEEN ON 2MG FOR YEARS, AND I HAVE READ THE LITERATURE EXTENSIVELY. IN FACT, MOST PEOPLE WHO USE XANAX RESPONSIBLY, LOWER THEIR DOSE OVER TIME!!!
>
>
> SO TAKE XANAX (OR KLONOPIN) WITH NARDIL.
>
> ANY MORE QSTNS PLEASE ASK.....
>
> PEACE
>
> ACE.
> >
> > Tep
>
>Thank you Ace for Helping Tepi, he needs you right now-one person to listen to, one person with MAOI exp. like you. Scott is also awesome, but he is not feeling very well himself at this time. Ace, please keep in very close touch with Tep, maybe every day for awhile if you can. I'm worried that he has start using alcohol lately, maybe you can convince him to stop drinking. Seriously, Thank you very much for helping our and your friend Tepi.
Tyler
Posted by Phillipa on March 27, 2006, at 22:50:37
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA! » ace, posted by TylerJ on March 27, 2006, at 21:18:52
Ace my friend too just like you're mine. We will stick toghether like glue till we get tepi where he is singing praise to the Nardil Champ!!!!! Ace the greatest. And Tepi Ace is the greatest. Love to both of you.
Posted by ace on March 28, 2006, at 0:23:32
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA! ?ace, posted by TylerJ on March 27, 2006, at 21:18:52
> > > > Dude, explain to me in depth what is wrong....tell me everything and I will try and help as much as possible....
> > > >
> > > > Peace
> > > > Ace
> > >
> > > Ey ace Im here brother !
> >
> > Hello Tep!
> >
> > . I have just took a couple of beers and I feel better. I was in a little party in a cousin house. I was more calm around people, I was ok . I could live like this.
> >
> > OK. Be very careful about medicating with alcohol. Before long it could become a real problem. I would actually recommend you use no alcohol as a means to assuage your symptoms. Many DO, and end up having miserable lifes. Let's concentrate on the specifics and what we can do psychopharmacologically to alleviate your symptoms. Please have faith Tep.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Dude , you know my problem I have a very severe
> > > Social Phobia , now Im in a very deep depression in this moment
> >
> > OK. These two problems can be treated with the same drug...i.e Nardil. Before you were mentioning starting and stopping Nardil -- DON'T!
> > I always say the same thing -- spend 4 weeks at 60mg and then, if no respomse try 90mg. TAKE THE DOSE EVERY TIME AT THE SAME TIME OF DAY. By this time you should acheive enough MAOI inhibition. If you are very anxious, i cannot recommend enough 2-4mg Xanax daily. Xanax is a wonder drug along with klonopin. One article on pubmed stated that it took one patient 10 weeks on Nardil to TOTALLY eliminate his depression -- so please be patient.
> >
> > OK, after a fair trial of Nardil, as outlined above, we can think of switching agents if no substanial therapeutic effects have been acheived.
> >
> > 1. Try Nardil + low dose antipsychotic (this time try- Zyprexa, Abilify etc)
> >
> > 2. Try Nardil with a TCA (but NOT clomipramine under ANY circumstances)
> >
> > 3. Try Nardil with Carbamazepine, Neurontin, Epilem, etc.
> >
> > 4. CHANGE NARDIL
> >
> > 5. Parnate monotherapy
> >
> > 6. Parnate with the above augmenters.
> >
> > 7. I forget -- TRY NARDIL + Amisulpride (50-100mg)
> >
> > 8. Try Clomipramine.
> >
> > 9. Try Nardil + Tramadol (this is "bliss inducer")
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The list is endless. I please ask you to have FAITH that we will find the correct drug. It took me YEARS of suffering before i was free.
> > MAOI's are very good drugs Tep, but you must treat them with utter respect.
> >
> > Also make sure you drink LOTS of water- at least 8-10 glasses a day.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > , alot of suicide ideas. I dont sleep well .
> >
> > It's OK to think about suicide. But never give in to the urge. With life Tep, you never know what is around the corner! So stay strong!
> >
> >
> >
> > I have return to Nardil but it hasn´t kicked in yet. Its rare.
> >
> > It is going to take time. But please don't go on and then off it. Stay on it amd take your dose everytime at the same time.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Ey ace! you have to help me, you know more of MAOIs than any other doctor here in Mexico. What better coudl I have than you. I know you want me to raise Nardil to 90mg. What else to do? I can augment Nardil with what? Maybe lamictal?
> > > Ace dont give me a list of 20 medicines , just tell me what you think I should take. Just one med with Nardil , no more , another med to augmenting it . Help me Dude ! I need help in this moment, more than ever before. I can´t leave my home and I need a job.
> >
> >
> >
> > OK. You ask for one drug to augment with Nardil. I apologize for the list up the top.
> >
> > TAKE 2-4MG XANAX OR KLONOPIN WITH NARDIL.
> > THAT IS THE BEST BET IN THE SHORT TERM.
> >
> > BENZO'S ARE GREAT DRUGS, AND YOU DO NOT BUILD TOLERANCE TO THEIR ANXIOLYTIC EFFECTS...I'VE BEEN ON 2MG FOR YEARS, AND I HAVE READ THE LITERATURE EXTENSIVELY. IN FACT, MOST PEOPLE WHO USE XANAX RESPONSIBLY, LOWER THEIR DOSE OVER TIME!!!
> >
> >
> > SO TAKE XANAX (OR KLONOPIN) WITH NARDIL.
> >
> > ANY MORE QSTNS PLEASE ASK.....
> >
> > PEACE
> >
> > ACE.
> > >
> > > Tep
> >
> >
>
> Thank you Ace for Helping Tepi, he needs you right now-one person to listen to, one person with MAOI exp. like you.Not a problem. The thing about MAOI's are, which is overlooked by the newer generation of psychiatrists (of which I will be a part), is that they are incredibly safe. The diet has not been ammended in years along with drug interactions. It angers me that, because there is not much $$$ in MAOI's, the researchers forget about them, despite their extreme efficacy.
Scott is also awesome, but he is not feeling very well himself at this time.
It happens to all of us here. We all have that cold hand of suicide on our shoulders, but we also have each other to keep ourselves going. We can be a real family here.
Ace, please keep in very close touch with Tep, maybe every day for awhile if you can.I will. I am back at university studying hard now, so that's why you might not have seen me much. But with Tep's problems I will check everyday and help him as much as I can.
I'm worried that he has start using alcohol lately, maybe you can convince him to stop drinking.
Yes. This is a dead end. A short term band aid, which makes the wound feel better for a time. But you can't be intoxicated all your life -- and alcoholism is sure to lead to more problems. Basically, Tep needs a drug or drugs which target his biochemical make-up in his brain. We don't know if his problem is due to a lack of transmitter, ionic abberations with the action potential, re-uptake pump morphological changes, blah blah blah. All we need is the right drug for Tep and he can join in happiness again.
Seriously, Thank you very much for helping our and your friend Tepi.
>
> Tyler
> No worries Tyler!!!
Ace
>
Posted by ace on March 28, 2006, at 0:26:38
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA!, posted by Phillipa on March 27, 2006, at 22:50:37
> Ace my friend too just like you're mine.
Absolutely!!! I am a psycho-babble veteran and people like you and so many others make me proud to be on here!
We will stick toghether like glue till we get tepi where he is singing praise to the Nardil Champ!!!!!Absolutely! Even if their is some probs on the way, we have to help him as much as possible!
Ace the greatest. And Tepi Ace is the greatest. Love to both of you.
And you are the greatest too!!!!
Your posts are always so warm and caring...you are very good-hearted! All us people with problems upstairs I think are a special breed....we all have a certain spark about us!!
Love to you all!!!!!!!!!!!!Ace
Posted by TylerJ on March 28, 2006, at 5:55:33
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA! » TylerJ, posted by ace on March 28, 2006, at 0:23:32
> > > > > Dude, explain to me in depth what is wrong....tell me everything and I will try and help as much as possible....
> > > > >
> > > > > Peace
> > > > > Ace
> > > >
> > > > Ey ace Im here brother !
> > >
> > > Hello Tep!
> > >
> > > . I have just took a couple of beers and I feel better. I was in a little party in a cousin house. I was more calm around people, I was ok . I could live like this.
> > >
> > > OK. Be very careful about medicating with alcohol. Before long it could become a real problem. I would actually recommend you use no alcohol as a means to assuage your symptoms. Many DO, and end up having miserable lifes. Let's concentrate on the specifics and what we can do psychopharmacologically to alleviate your symptoms. Please have faith Tep.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Dude , you know my problem I have a very severe
> > > > Social Phobia , now Im in a very deep depression in this moment
> > >
> > > OK. These two problems can be treated with the same drug...i.e Nardil. Before you were mentioning starting and stopping Nardil -- DON'T!
> > > I always say the same thing -- spend 4 weeks at 60mg and then, if no respomse try 90mg. TAKE THE DOSE EVERY TIME AT THE SAME TIME OF DAY. By this time you should acheive enough MAOI inhibition. If you are very anxious, i cannot recommend enough 2-4mg Xanax daily. Xanax is a wonder drug along with klonopin. One article on pubmed stated that it took one patient 10 weeks on Nardil to TOTALLY eliminate his depression -- so please be patient.
> > >
> > > OK, after a fair trial of Nardil, as outlined above, we can think of switching agents if no substanial therapeutic effects have been acheived.
> > >
> > > 1. Try Nardil + low dose antipsychotic (this time try- Zyprexa, Abilify etc)
> > >
> > > 2. Try Nardil with a TCA (but NOT clomipramine under ANY circumstances)
> > >
> > > 3. Try Nardil with Carbamazepine, Neurontin, Epilem, etc.
> > >
> > > 4. CHANGE NARDIL
> > >
> > > 5. Parnate monotherapy
> > >
> > > 6. Parnate with the above augmenters.
> > >
> > > 7. I forget -- TRY NARDIL + Amisulpride (50-100mg)
> > >
> > > 8. Try Clomipramine.
> > >
> > > 9. Try Nardil + Tramadol (this is "bliss inducer")
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The list is endless. I please ask you to have FAITH that we will find the correct drug. It took me YEARS of suffering before i was free.
> > > MAOI's are very good drugs Tep, but you must treat them with utter respect.
> > >
> > > Also make sure you drink LOTS of water- at least 8-10 glasses a day.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > , alot of suicide ideas. I dont sleep well .
> > >
> > > It's OK to think about suicide. But never give in to the urge. With life Tep, you never know what is around the corner! So stay strong!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have return to Nardil but it hasn´t kicked in yet. Its rare.
> > >
> > > It is going to take time. But please don't go on and then off it. Stay on it amd take your dose everytime at the same time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ey ace! you have to help me, you know more of MAOIs than any other doctor here in Mexico. What better coudl I have than you. I know you want me to raise Nardil to 90mg. What else to do? I can augment Nardil with what? Maybe lamictal?
> > > > Ace dont give me a list of 20 medicines , just tell me what you think I should take. Just one med with Nardil , no more , another med to augmenting it . Help me Dude ! I need help in this moment, more than ever before. I can´t leave my home and I need a job.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > OK. You ask for one drug to augment with Nardil. I apologize for the list up the top.
> > >
> > > TAKE 2-4MG XANAX OR KLONOPIN WITH NARDIL.
> > > THAT IS THE BEST BET IN THE SHORT TERM.
> > >
> > > BENZO'S ARE GREAT DRUGS, AND YOU DO NOT BUILD TOLERANCE TO THEIR ANXIOLYTIC EFFECTS...I'VE BEEN ON 2MG FOR YEARS, AND I HAVE READ THE LITERATURE EXTENSIVELY. IN FACT, MOST PEOPLE WHO USE XANAX RESPONSIBLY, LOWER THEIR DOSE OVER TIME!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > SO TAKE XANAX (OR KLONOPIN) WITH NARDIL.
> > >
> > > ANY MORE QSTNS PLEASE ASK.....
> > >
> > > PEACE
> > >
> > > ACE.
> > > >
> > > > Tep
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Thank you Ace for Helping Tepi, he needs you right now-one person to listen to, one person with MAOI exp. like you.
>
> Not a problem. The thing about MAOI's are, which is overlooked by the newer generation of psychiatrists (of which I will be a part), is that they are incredibly safe. The diet has not been ammended in years along with drug interactions. It angers me that, because there is not much $$$ in MAOI's, the researchers forget about them, despite their extreme efficacy.
>
>
>
> Scott is also awesome, but he is not feeling very well himself at this time.
>
> It happens to all of us here. We all have that cold hand of suicide on our shoulders, but we also have each other to keep ourselves going. We can be a real family here.
>
>
> Ace, please keep in very close touch with Tep, maybe every day for awhile if you can.
>
> I will. I am back at university studying hard now, so that's why you might not have seen me much. But with Tep's problems I will check everyday and help him as much as I can.
>
>
>
> I'm worried that he has start using alcohol lately, maybe you can convince him to stop drinking.
>
> Yes. This is a dead end. A short term band aid, which makes the wound feel better for a time. But you can't be intoxicated all your life -- and alcoholism is sure to lead to more problems. Basically, Tep needs a drug or drugs which target his biochemical make-up in his brain. We don't know if his problem is due to a lack of transmitter, ionic abberations with the action potential, re-uptake pump morphological changes, blah blah blah. All we need is the right drug for Tep and he can join in happiness again.
>
>
>
>
> Seriously, Thank you very much for helping our and your friend Tepi.
> >
> > Tyler
> > No worries Tyler!!!
> Ace
> >
>
>
Great! Thanks again.Tyler
Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 28, 2006, at 8:15:35
In reply to Re: Calling TEPIACA! » Tepiaca, posted by ace on March 27, 2006, at 21:06:21
>AND YOU DO NOT BUILD TOLERANCE TO THEIR ANXIOLYTIC EFFECTS...I'VE BEEN ON 2MG FOR YEARS, AND I HAVE READ THE LITERATURE EXTENSIVELY.
I know of the medical literature that states about the Benzo's being recommended for 4 weeks short term anxiety relief etc..
I'm looking for medical studies/literature that backs up your claim above about people who do not build tolerance to the anti-anxiety effects with long term treatment of benzodiazepine drugs, specifically Diazepam.
Can you help?
:-)
~
Posted by ace on March 28, 2006, at 18:40:17
In reply to Benzo Tolerance ?ace, posted by Sobriquet Style on March 28, 2006, at 8:15:35
> >AND YOU DO NOT BUILD TOLERANCE TO THEIR ANXIOLYTIC EFFECTS...I'VE BEEN ON 2MG FOR YEARS, AND I HAVE READ THE LITERATURE EXTENSIVELY.
>
> I know of the medical literature that states about the Benzo's being recommended for 4 weeks short term anxiety relief etc..
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> I'm looking for medical studies/literature that backs up your claim above about people who do not build tolerance to the anti-anxiety effects with long term treatment of benzodiazepine drugs, specifically Diazepam.
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> Can you help?
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> :-)
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> ~Sure can...I am snowed under now but will get the reports...remind me if i don't as this is a very serious issue in my eyes...
Ace
Posted by Phillipa on March 28, 2006, at 18:57:33
In reply to Re: Benzo Tolerance » Sobriquet Style, posted by ace on March 28, 2006, at 18:40:17
For 10years I personally took xaxax and did not build up a tolerance. I always took a lower dose than my doc wanted me to. the same with valium. It's been 30 some odd years and now I take l5mg of valium and it makes me tired instead so I probably lower it. I am jogging around two miles not much daily and it does more for me than any med does. Love phillipa
Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 29, 2006, at 9:33:15
In reply to Re: Benzo Tolerance » Sobriquet Style, posted by ace on March 28, 2006, at 18:40:17
>Sure can...
Very much appreciated :-)
>I am snowed under now but will get the reports
I'm seriously thinking about going on a Benzo longterm, how to get one and kinda being 100% sure I'm really interested in reading about as much infomation as possible. That said, I've basically made up my mind that I want to take a very low doasage of Diazepam 5mg, maximum a day or when needed.
>remind me if i don't as this is a very serious issue in my eyes...
Me too, I'll need as much information as possible to hopefully get my doctor to prescribe one as he's slightly phobic. If I can present him with some medical information though, I stand my best chances of him prescribing one..
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Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 29, 2006, at 9:38:21
In reply to Re: Benzo Tolerance » Sobriquet Style, posted by Phillipa on March 28, 2006, at 18:57:33
>It's been 30 some odd years and now I take l5mg of valium and it makes me tired instead so I probably lower it.
I replied to you up above, but you've just answered one of my questions :-)
>it does more for me than any med does.
:-) Thats great. Its very reassuring for me to know that these drugs are not as scary as their made out to be. I do believe there is some danger with them (like with all meds) and I guess the dangers can be different in severity and nature. That said, theres many reports of benzo's doing alot of good work for people long term, more so than compared to alot of other medications..
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