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Posted by ed_uk on October 19, 2005, at 13:42:37
In reply to side track » ed_uk, posted by tecknohed on October 18, 2005, at 18:36:06
Hi!
Did you drink alcohol to self-medicate your social anxiety?
~Ed
Posted by ed_uk on October 19, 2005, at 13:43:42
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting? » tecknohed, posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 12:13:55
Hi Maxie,
Have you called your old pdoc yet to ask which meds he will help you to import?
~ed xxx
Posted by CK1 on October 19, 2005, at 13:50:08
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting? » CK1, posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 12:25:18
Hey Maxime,
That's really dissapointing about the job thing. Maybe you can work from you home -- start an ebay business or something. ha! But you really need to find a way to make money so you can buy Adderall as it will at least help you get motivated. If you've been on stimulants long-term and suddenly stop taking them, of course you're going to get depressed. Of course it's not going to 'cure' your depression, but it will get you out of this dark pit you're in.
My new doctor whom I saw for the first time last week thinks meds can work for everyone. He's a very optimistic guy and uses these complex combos routinely to help people that don't respond to traditional therapy. It's a shame you tend to lactate on so many meds that could really help your condition! If Prozac and Parnate both worked for you for some time and then pooped out, that's an obvious sign of some "recurring depression/bipolar spectrum" disorder going on, which can be very difficult to treat. Maxime, here's me advice:
1) Find a way to get back on Addy - it will get you back on your feet
2) Find a way to generate 'any' income, either through your home or elsewhere. I know it's almost impossible with your depression (I understand) but not being able to buy anything (meds, food, etc) will only make things worse
3) Find the best pdoc you can find -- someone who specializes in treatment resistant depression. A great pdoc is worth sooo much.Maxime, with the medications out nowadays, very very few people suffer for their entire lives. It may take awhile to find something that works, but I know something will for you even though you don't think so. The fact that Prozac and Parnate helped you means that they can be re-activated if you throw in the right augmentation. The anorexia thing makes things extra complicated though and might be part of the reason why you aren't responding to meds.
Make an appt with a GREAT pdoc. I'd recommend Dr. Donald Klein or Dr. Leibovitz, both of whom are in New York. They are two of the most respected pyschiatrists in the field but cost an arm and a leg, around $700 for the first session!
Take control of your situation and do whatever you can to make it better. Sitting around is the worst thing you can do for depression, I have found.
Posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 14:09:54
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting? » Maxime, posted by ed_uk on October 19, 2005, at 13:43:42
> Hi Maxie,
>
> Have you called your old pdoc yet to ask which meds he will help you to import?
>
> ~ed xxxHe's away now and won't be back for 2 weeks. It doesn't matter. Nothing is going to help.
xoxo
Maxime
Posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 14:18:51
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting?, posted by CK1 on October 19, 2005, at 13:50:08
Thanks. I have $4 what can I do with $4? I could never afford $700 U.S. dollars to see a doctor. Never. I have to apply for social assistance(welfare)which will be about $600 a month. Every day something else goes wrong. If I don't get on Welfare I won't be able to pay the rent on the 1st, not that it matters.
I haven't been on the Adderall since January so the depression is not from not being on it. I had only been on it for about 5 months. Yes, I think it could help, but I can't get it.
I know you are trying to help, but right now, none of it is feasible. Thanks for caring though. I do appreciate it.
Maxime
> Hey Maxime,
>
> That's really dissapointing about the job thing. Maybe you can work from you home -- start an ebay business or something. ha! But you really need to find a way to make money so you can buy Adderall as it will at least help you get motivated. If you've been on stimulants long-term and suddenly stop taking them, of course you're going to get depressed. Of course it's not going to 'cure' your depression, but it will get you out of this dark pit you're in.
> My new doctor whom I saw for the first time last week thinks meds can work for everyone. He's a very optimistic guy and uses these complex combos routinely to help people that don't respond to traditional therapy. It's a shame you tend to lactate on so many meds that could really help your condition! If Prozac and Parnate both worked for you for some time and then pooped out, that's an obvious sign of some "recurring depression/bipolar spectrum" disorder going on, which can be very difficult to treat. Maxime, here's me advice:
> 1) Find a way to get back on Addy - it will get you back on your feet
> 2) Find a way to generate 'any' income, either through your home or elsewhere. I know it's almost impossible with your depression (I understand) but not being able to buy anything (meds, food, etc) will only make things worse
> 3) Find the best pdoc you can find -- someone who specializes in treatment resistant depression. A great pdoc is worth sooo much.
>
> Maxime, with the medications out nowadays, very very few people suffer for their entire lives. It may take awhile to find something that works, but I know something will for you even though you don't think so. The fact that Prozac and Parnate helped you means that they can be re-activated if you throw in the right augmentation. The anorexia thing makes things extra complicated though and might be part of the reason why you aren't responding to meds.
>
> Make an appt with a GREAT pdoc. I'd recommend Dr. Donald Klein or Dr. Leibovitz, both of whom are in New York. They are two of the most respected pyschiatrists in the field but cost an arm and a leg, around $700 for the first session!
>
> Take control of your situation and do whatever you can to make it better. Sitting around is the worst thing you can do for depression, I have found.
Posted by ed_uk on October 19, 2005, at 14:27:56
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting?, posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 14:18:51
Hi Maxie,
>I have $4 what can I do with $4?
You can buy some generic fluoxetine (Prozac). It's very inexpensive, at least it is in the UK. If you start tapering the Parnate now you'll be able to start fluoxetine in a few weeks.
Love Ed xx
Posted by emme on October 19, 2005, at 15:52:28
In reply to Anyone else find the walls interesting?, posted by Maxime on October 16, 2005, at 23:14:27
Hi Maxime,
This may be an overly simplistic suggestion, but does caffeine do anything for you?
I hope you're able to eat a little more too.emme
Posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 18:10:31
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting? » Maxime, posted by ed_uk on October 19, 2005, at 14:27:56
Hey Ed, our med dispensing system is different than in the UK. We pay full price for our meds. They are cheaper than in the U.S., but for $4 I wouldn't be able to get any Prozac, generic or otherwise. :-(
Maxie
> Hi Maxie,
>
> >I have $4 what can I do with $4?
>
> You can buy some generic fluoxetine (Prozac). It's very inexpensive, at least it is in the UK. If you start tapering the Parnate now you'll be able to start fluoxetine in a few weeks.
>
> Love Ed xx
Posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 18:12:51
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting? » Maxime, posted by emme on October 19, 2005, at 15:52:28
> Hi Maxime,
>
> This may be an overly simplistic suggestion, but does caffeine do anything for you?
> I hope you're able to eat a little more too.
>
> emme
>It takes a lot of caffeine to get a boost. I have also been known to abuse it for weight loss purposes.
But your idea was a good one. :-)
Rhapsody
Posted by Phillipa on October 19, 2005, at 18:30:56
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting? » emme, posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 18:12:51
Maxie, Who the heck is Rapsody? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 20:45:19
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting? » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on October 19, 2005, at 18:30:56
> Maxie, Who the heck is Rapsody? Fondly, Phillipa
A large typo ... sorry.
Maxime
Posted by tecknohed on October 20, 2005, at 2:05:12
In reply to Re: side track » tecknohed, posted by ed_uk on October 19, 2005, at 13:42:37
> Hi!
>
> Did you drink alcohol to self-medicate your social anxiety?
>
> ~EdHi mate
I used amphetamines mainly as an attempt to control SP. I ended up taking it every day (high doses, base) which had the opposite effect, and then some! When I gave up I started drinking, socially at first but not for long. I virtually became a hermit, only leaving the house for drink (@16 cans beer/day). So no, I didn't use drink to cope with SP. I used it to blank the world out.
Still, HAPPY DAYS! (-:
Kev
Posted by tecknohed on October 20, 2005, at 4:14:41
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting? » tecknohed, posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 12:13:55
> Thanks for the ideas. I feel worse than I did two days ago. I feel more like a failure. I feel really weak physically which is from limiting my food intake. It's really all my fault. I shouldn't even be complaining. I have brought it all on upon myself.
>
> Maxime
>
I'm sorry you feel so bad. YOUR ILLNESS IS NOT YOUR FAULT. YOU'RE NOT A FAILURE. If anything its the world thats failed you! YOU DESERVE TO BE HAPPY. Hang in there, try to be patient. It will pass. THINGS WILL GET BETTER! Talk to someone. Keep talking to us. Talk to me if you like - my babblemails always on.Take care of yourself.
Kev.
Posted by ed_uk on October 20, 2005, at 14:19:57
In reply to Re: Anyone else find the walls interesting? » ed_uk, posted by Maxime on October 19, 2005, at 18:10:31
Hi Maxie,
>We pay full price for our meds.
I know........ but generic fluoxetine is very cheap. In the UK, 30 fluoxetine 20mg capsules cost about £1.50 (trade price). On a private (full price) prescription, the customer would pay about £4. All NHS prescriptions cost £6.50.
In the last few years, the price of generic fluoxetine has dropped, dropped, dropped, dropped........ it's now the cheapest AD in the UK, cheaper than any of the TCAs.
Love Ed xx
Posted by ed_uk on October 20, 2005, at 14:21:37
In reply to Re: side track » ed_uk, posted by tecknohed on October 20, 2005, at 2:05:12
Hi K,
I guess you got paranoid on the high dose of amphetamine?
~Ed
Posted by tecknohed on October 20, 2005, at 21:37:18
In reply to Re: side track » tecknohed, posted by ed_uk on October 20, 2005, at 14:21:37
> Hi K,
>
> I guess you got paranoid on the high dose of amphetamine?
>
> ~EdYes, and very agoraphobic. The physical deterioration got continually bad too. Add to that I was a chronic pot smoker at the time. Paranoia + paranoia. Bad mix. Asking for trouble. I was a silly boy. But despirate.
You ever dabbled?
Regards.
Kev
Posted by Declan on October 20, 2005, at 22:15:26
In reply to Re: side track » ed_uk, posted by tecknohed on October 20, 2005, at 21:37:18
Hey teckno, you might enjoy "Spun". It's a film, not a book, very funny US film about people taking far too much speed.
Declan
Posted by Declan on October 20, 2005, at 22:16:55
In reply to Re: side track » tecknohed, posted by Declan on October 20, 2005, at 22:15:26
Posted by ed_uk on October 21, 2005, at 14:09:27
In reply to Re: side track » ed_uk, posted by tecknohed on October 20, 2005, at 21:37:18
Hi K,
>I was a silly boy.
:D
>You ever dabbled?
Not much, just codeine. I have to be careful because I know I've got an addictive nature!
~Ed
Posted by Declan on October 21, 2005, at 15:12:54
In reply to Re: side track » tecknohed, posted by ed_uk on October 21, 2005, at 14:09:27
Can people who are as careful as you have an addictive nature Ed? There's the reckless type....actually forming this into the semblance of an argument is beyond me. I just don't buy this addictive nature business. But what about those people who plough into the stuff, who just want to get stoned? Is that addictive nature. Or something much simpler? Or is addictive nature just wanting to feel good?
Declan
Posted by ed_uk on October 21, 2005, at 15:55:13
In reply to Re: side track » ed_uk, posted by Declan on October 21, 2005, at 15:12:54
Hi Dec,
>Can people who are as careful as you have an addictive nature Ed?
What makes you think I'm careful Dec?
I tend to take things to excess. If I drink, I tend to drink too much. If I eat chocolate, I tend to eat too much. I don't have any self discipline.
Love
~Ed
Posted by Declan on October 21, 2005, at 16:36:06
In reply to Re: side track » Declan, posted by ed_uk on October 21, 2005, at 15:55:13
You just seem careful to me Eddy, I dunno why. You did drop things in the pharmacy. Eating chocolate?....now drinking too much is more like it. Your communications are careful and considered, I suppose that's it.
Declan
Posted by Phillipa on October 21, 2005, at 17:41:53
In reply to Re: side track » ed_uk, posted by Declan on October 21, 2005, at 16:36:06
Ed, I learn something new about you everyday. Love PJ O
Posted by ed_uk on October 22, 2005, at 15:42:28
In reply to Re: side track » ed_uk, posted by Declan on October 21, 2005, at 16:36:06
I'm very clumsy Dec. I drop stuff on the floor all the time.
>Your communications are careful and considered, I suppose that's it.
:-)
>drinking too much
I just drank some whisky. I hate whisky, it's vile. I did feel the need for a mind-altering substance though, would have prefered some Kahlua.
~ed
Posted by Sebastian on October 22, 2005, at 16:25:02
In reply to Anyone else find the walls interesting?, posted by Maxime on October 16, 2005, at 23:14:27
Zyprexa got me out of it, 10 mg. I was afraid to leave my room and email was not so prevalent. I would go mad, no medicine, Thinking all the time just mass thinking. My thoughts were very messed up thinking all I had to do to be a movie star was to raise my hands in the air. The dreams were unreal, sort of like I was living through them. All the things I wanted to do I would just dream it. Doing stupid stuff too, my thinking was unclear in what was going on around me. I would do things like worship a dead animal skin or rip my shirt off. Deams that my freinds were putting crack in the air conditioner and it was coming out the vents. Thouse were the times that I felt the most intouch with myself. I dreamed that a bird would fly to my window and take a message to my dying freind in the hospital. Then the pain I felt about it was killing me for hours. Needless to say I was going crazy since I saw my freinds blow them selves up.
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